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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #360 on: December 18, 2015, 02:44:09 PM »
Molybdenum disulfide maybe?
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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #361 on: December 18, 2015, 03:00:20 PM »
In a former job in an engineering firm I worked for we used to sell something similar called Niloil, a lube impregnated plastic. it was as they say, "good shit". It could be used in under water applications. If my dodgy memory serves me correctly (I think) that rules out moly. One type of lube, which I think was moly, could not be used in salt water applications.

From this thread I think that when the next tire change happens I will whip the covers off the swing arm bearings and throw some grease in there. I know they are a boggy type bearing, 6205's from memory. Dirt common and cheap as chips.
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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #362 on: December 19, 2015, 06:48:10 AM »
Might be worth noting that I'm talking about the
Paralever TRB's, swing arm to FD, not the swing arm
to gearbox TRB's - they move enough not to wear so
quickly. The front are a normal bearing size and a normal
price, the Paralever TRB's are BMW specific special one off
size priced three times as much, prompting experimentation
among the unwashed.

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Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #363 on: December 28, 2015, 06:27:11 PM »
In my current career as a millwright, I have found that bearings that don't spin (in other words bearings that operate through less than 360 degree rotation) fail early. I have my own theories as to why this is, but I see it often. Yes, this is an oversimplification, but this is my empirical observation. I grease these more often than bearings that rotate. Swingarm bearings and headstock bearings kind of match that description for me.

Also, Google 'Brinelling'.
http://www.linearmotiontips.com/how-bearings-fail-a-closer-look-at-brinelling/
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« Reply #363 on: December 28, 2015, 06:27:11 PM »

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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #364 on: December 28, 2015, 08:14:06 PM »
Also, Google 'Brinelling'.
http://www.linearmotiontips.com/how-bearings-fail-a-closer-look-at-brinelling/

 Good stuff, but not the specific failure I am thinking of...in this case it's just accelerated wear and failure. The load shouldn't be excessive, but who knows, maybe there is more impact force than the manufacturer realizes.
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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #365 on: January 22, 2016, 10:17:34 AM »
Quick update; my NTX is being fixed. In the end Piaggio gave me the parts (except the ones I got from Vasco DG) at discounted prices and the local dealer also came to the party by reducing labour rates, happy about that.

Decided I'm going to keep the bike, I reckon my chances of it happening again is pretty slim. I'll post pics when I ride the bike down from Jo'burg to Cape Town.

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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #366 on: March 01, 2018, 08:16:28 PM »
Another one in Australia:

A bit too of a let down rideing along got forced of the road by a kangaroo down here in Australia that I can deal with had to jump over a small drain no big deal only went maybe a foot in the air cleared the drain landed nice and smooth then bag rear swing arm breaks away couldn't believe it bike was unloaded I was doing maybe 80 klms before slowing down while forced off the road this is my second stelvio had my last one through the desert did heaps of off road with it no problems this new one didn't handle it must say am disappointed in what's happened now waiting on insurance to see if I will be fixed or a write off not happy





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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #367 on: March 01, 2018, 09:07:11 PM »
Wonder what year it was? 2012 seems to be the problem year.

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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #368 on: March 02, 2018, 12:43:30 PM »
Wonder what year it was? 2012 seems to be the problem year.

Not sure about Australia, but that color was only available in the US market in more recent years - 2015 to 2017 I believe.
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Re: Stelvio CARC failure in Oz AND South Africa
« Reply #369 on: March 03, 2018, 05:53:50 AM »
Not sure about Australia, but that color was only available in the US market in more recent years - 2015 to 2017 I believe.

2014 as well

Although it's possible that's a 2012 bike with a 2014 tank on it. There is at least one bike like that in Australia.

The triangular panels with the NTX logo might be grey (like the black 2012 bike), not black (like the green 2014 bike).


 

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