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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2021, 10:34:25 AM »
I really like the design, and am excited to see if I like riding it... and if I can afford it.  I love the two color options, but if I get one, it'll be red.

I like them both, but if I bought one, it would definitely be "RED!"  :wink: :thumb:




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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2021, 10:43:58 AM »
It looks great to me, the first new GUZZI I would seriously consider owning. I wonder if I could order a bike and arrange to pick it up at the factory? BMW used to offer that service, and after the owner rode around Europe the factory sent it to North America.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2021, 10:52:28 AM »
Honestly, they'll have to price it around $15k to have a chance. If they don't, there's no reason to buy it over a Tracer 9 GT for the same price.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2021, 10:53:50 AM »
I like them both, but if I bought one, it would definitely be "RED!"  :wink: :thumb:




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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2021, 10:53:50 AM »

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2021, 10:56:11 AM »
Great video shot on the guzzi link of the Italian eagle landing on the hand of a seated rider ..

Where have I seen this motorcycle shape before?

I was thinking more Yamaha TDM:




Having said that, I think the bike looks fine.  The more modern stying will hopefully bring some new riders into the Guzzi tent.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2021, 10:59:28 AM »
allright it's growing on me

in green especially

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Really pleased to see guzzi getting it (seemingly) right after some very lean years!!!

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2021, 11:01:38 AM »
Looks good to me!
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2021, 11:09:28 AM »
I‘m more or less on the Cruiser side of life, but the new V100 really looks good. This is a fine interpretation of the V2 motor concept linked with the aesthetics and functiom of a sportstourer.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2021, 11:14:31 AM »
I just did an overlay image comparison between the v100 and the griso (would post it, but I'm not great with uploading pictures on this site, anyone know a good free server?)

much shorter wheelbase, shorter reach to bars, slightly lower seat, 'looks' lighter too

110 horses in that configuration could be very enjoyably useable in the real world

-will the mapping be rubbish?
-will there be some dreadful mechanical failure that piaggio won't fix and affects only models of a certain vin number. maybe?
-will the paint peel off on the first wash?
-will you need a smartphone to ride it?
-will our cherished guzzi lump lose all it's character once water cooled?

Off to take some 'calmo calmo' pills now, someone wake me up when there's more info

forza guzzi!!!!!

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2021, 11:26:59 AM »
Off-road mode showing on speedometer
Active suspension on high-end version
Automatic fairing panels/windscreen deployment at speed
Accessible clutch (mentioned before)
Excellent cylinder appearance from rider's seat
More legroom from relocated intakes
Ditto maybe allowing for a  shorter wheelbase
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Chevron on valve covers suggests old exhaust position
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« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2021, 11:35:23 AM »
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2021, 11:41:37 AM »
Ok I'm totally into it, this is not the SuperBreva 850 I have been waiting for since about 2014, this is the MegaBreva sports tourer which will probably be out of my price range even for the standard model, but what the hell I love it. I'm going to have a test ride when the time comes, and compare it to a V7850 Stone - which is more my price bracket most likely. Until now the 2004 Breva will do.

Things I like;
Power  - at the moment I have 39rwhp so what's not to like.
Looks - I love the look of it, looks like its a dynamic corner carving ride that also can eat a few miles. Red for me.
Comfort factor looks similar to my Breva; all day riding. 
Its modern - love the classics but the company cant be stuck in the retro rut forever.

Dislike;
Likely too pricey for me
Seat height (maybe) - I'm 5 foot 3.
All those panniers will cost big but should be thrown in as part of the deal - Guzzi folk tour its in the blood.
Thats about it...........
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2021, 12:45:06 PM »
I like it.

My first thought after noticing the diagonal slots beneath the seat was “1982 Katana!”

My exact first thought also, I had a `85 katana! I like it and think it will go down well with the modern buyer.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2021, 12:51:01 PM »
It's too large a jump for many to get by the Tracer's looks.  NOT to be that guy, but a bike has to appeal to the owner.  If stats are all that matter then the choice is already made for the buyer with that stat sheet.  I know guys with the Tracer, but, and it's ONLY me, but no thanks, even for free.  It looks hideous.  But as in many things in life, there is  HUGE SUBJECTIVE COMPONENT, and only the viewer can decide.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2021, 01:15:54 PM »
Interesting to see that they have dumped the big flywheel and clutch. Now you have something modern, maybe even geared down to make shifts like a Jap. Clutch pack is located in what looks like a accessible place. Romours have it that it is a DOCH engine. The lower inertia of the clutch and the DOCH engine could make this a very nice package to make other models with. I like it. (Oh, I almost forgot the watercooling, my comment to this is: it is surely about time!
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« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2021, 01:40:19 PM »
New engine and drivetrain. About time...
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2021, 01:44:09 PM »
  To me, if it had clip ons it's the new Le Mans everybody's been whining about for decades on end

 I think the bars look too high and wide for the footpeg position, have to sit on one. Those bars may be the narrower bars I've been wanting for the V85 though.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2021, 01:45:52 PM »
I can't wait to see it in person. This thing looks different from every angle...  Some good, some bad.

It's like the "two-faced girlfriend" from Seinfeld....  Surely it's gonna look better in person. The two-tone green might be the one for me! Although the first mod will have to be re-covering the saddle in brown leather like a Tenni GRiSO or the Tenni V11
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2021, 01:49:25 PM »
I'm thrilled Moto Guzzi has now released two models in succession that aren't another pander to the highway-peg crowd. It appeared for a few years there Piaggio was content to let Aprilia carry the performance mantle and Guzzi would be the cruiser brand.

That would have been a real shame to let the racing heritage go for naught.

I like it very much!  :thumb:
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2021, 01:57:26 PM »
 It looks awesome, I was prepared not to like it but it grabs me. It strikes me as a little Hondaesque, that's not a bad thing, the problem is that I can ride to about 15 Honda dealers in less time than it takes me to get to a Guzzi dealer, and it's not the greatest dealer either.
 I'm not sure how I feel about hanging the clutch off the side like that, out of the path of the engine and transmission shafts, I'd like to see a cutaway of the new powerplant.

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2021, 02:20:43 PM »
This is precisely the problem that MG created upon themselves—they began to become stale, when they used to be innovative.
My heart always leans toward classics, but a moto company that used to be relevant as a modern bike builder that now only caters to vintage styling will bury its own grave (unless it’s some East Asian brand stuck in the times but can’t afford to become updated).

Vintage styling is a fad that comes and goes in strength. Cafes and scramblers see their days then hide back into their respective catalogs. This re-entry back into stylish modern performance is a great thing for the brand. It means continued relevance and refreshing appeal to the motorcycle buyers at large.

Moto Guzzi hasn't innovated since they built a wind tunnel in 1950, maybe we can throw in their V8 in 1955 but in their 100 year history they've spent the majority of their existence being technologically stale and playing catch up in everything except design (IMO).

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2021, 03:28:37 PM »





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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #82 on: September 10, 2021, 03:39:37 PM »
Okay.  I've had a few hours to mull over the new V-100.  With all due deference (not much--he's half my age, after all) to my dear friend of 12 years, BPReynolds, who has with age become somewhat of a curmudgeon, I think Guzzi's engineers and stylists have hit a "home run". 

I recommend that Guzzisti now be divided into three categories:  Loop Frame "Red Suspender Gang"; "Round Headlamp Gang" and "Modernos".  I'm among the middle group, but I believe the new V-100 signals the advent of new ideas that will appeal to a broader, younger (and not so young) rider group. 

It is in the collective interest of we Guzzisti that Piaggio should do well and I think the new V-100 will ensure that happy outcome.

BTW, my birthday is 12/12 and I'm only 15 years junior to Moto Guzzi. I like the green and silver.  Just sayin'...

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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #83 on: September 10, 2021, 03:44:34 PM »
Slightly larger images shared by Nick on our local forum. I'm like what MG has done and am really looking forward to a full review. Love my V85TT but wow - just wow!





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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #84 on: September 10, 2021, 03:45:10 PM »
I think I see in the video on youtube, the clutch housing. Maybe a wet clutch?

I like it, will wait for the bugs to be worked out and see what other models come along with this motor. Lots of differences from the MG of the last 50-60 years or so, but change is inevitable!

Oh, and I am on TEAM RED for this one :)
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« Reply #85 on: September 10, 2021, 04:23:18 PM »
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #86 on: September 10, 2021, 04:26:40 PM »
When BMW upgraded their Camhead to the Waterhead in roughly 2012, the first thing I noticed was that the intakes were now on top the cylinder heads, and the exhausts were on the bottom of the cylinder heads.  Like the upcoming Guzzi engine.  I used PowerPoint at that time to illustrate the difference in cam function, since I couldn't find a graphic comparison of the two cam layouts.

Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

With the Camhead, I believe each camshaft contained one intake and one exhaust lobe.  With the Waterhead, I think each camshaft contained either two intake lobes or two exhaust lobes.  Easier, most likely, to control variable valve timing.  I believe BMW alters only the intake cam timing.



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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #87 on: September 10, 2021, 04:36:35 PM »
I do wonder how much heat the rider is going to feel.  Remember, the liquid cooling is so that the engine passes Euro Emissions,  All the heat emitted by the radiator and the pipes put the side like that. 

I will definitely check it out when it arrives at Sloans.   
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #88 on: September 10, 2021, 04:55:35 PM »
I do wonder how much heat the rider is going to feel.  Remember, the liquid cooling is so that the engine passes Euro Emissions,  All the heat emitted by the radiator and the pipes put the side like that. 

I'm up for a heat-independent Guzzi because I've ridden mine enough times in 100+ heat where the Griso or V11 Lemans gets Very Cranky.

I'm thinking this is more along the lines of a Tuono/Griso and I do love my long wheel base bike for touring or long day trips.
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Re: V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest
« Reply #89 on: September 10, 2021, 05:16:20 PM »
Who's gonna be their 1st Guinea Pig, Do they have chips to make it work? No pics of it actually going down the road, none I seen.

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