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When I was a tyke on a family car trip to Arizona our car sprang a leak. No oil within 150 miles, so my dad put a couple of quarts of H2O in withthe remaining oil and drove the Mercury into Phoenix, where he replacedit with oil. I do know that we drove that car back 1500 miles home, butdon't know much about engine longevity after that.
I can say one thing for certain. When it's hot and your dipstick comes out it's very slippery and it doesn't wash off!
There is is one category missing in the survey and that is…(Drum roll accompanied by the sound of tearing envelope with a well timed cymbal splash…)“I just have to re invent the wheel to re validate my own sense of self relevance and since I own a fabulously engineered piece of mechanical awesomeness, I can put stale cat’s piss in there for bugger all money and still not manage to blow the poor bugger up…”The only outlay is the initial purchase price of the aforementioned cat and the water.I like the one that says..”It works for me”.Mate, it works for anyone and all that proves is, that the whole debate although mildly entertaining, is largely moot.If it makes you feel good..? Do it.Because feeling good is the only reason we do any of it and as for the oil debate ?It’s another opportunity to politely say…”Shut up, I’m right…”But it’s answering the question that nobody asked..
"Good"?Still waiting.
Walk into any Walmart and observe.
That's not a cricket!I've known lots of crickets for years, that's no cricket!
No such thing as all good reasons.People make terrible decisions every day thinking they are doing the right thing.Just terrible....
It just warms my little heart that someone actually looks at my posts ! OK, so does it at least REMIND you of a cricket ?
Maybe , the feller with the most miles on his machine has the RIGHT answer ?
Maybe , the feller with the most miles on his machine has the RIGHT answer ? I know a feller with a LS650 with over 200,000 miles on it who always uses Shell Rotella T-6 15w40. He said he did a valve job at 100,000 and didn't even find a ring grove .
Thinking of Iron Butt : You don't suspect that those Iron Butt fellers run over the posted speed limits do ya ?
Come on Huzo, we have all been waiting........OK, low hanging fruit. Too easy, sure, but still.....
Ok, so you have me in an emotionally vulnerable moment.N = 1 is almost always useless.OEM recommendations aren't (obviously) the only acceptable solution.They are normally the best bet for all possible circumstances.You can definitely use something else under some circumstances.The problem is, what are those circumstances? Is it an issue of higher temperature, or lower, or higher humidity or lower, or longer trips, or shorter?It's obviously ok to stray from the rec. The question is WHY? Combined with IS IT A GOOD IDEA/OR EVEN BENEFICIAL?It usually takes more than just in saving $$$ to qualify for that.And it definitely takes more than one person's experience to recommendv it, especially if warranties might be involved.Which leads me back to my original reply.You need a GOOD reason to go against the OEM recommendations.
I remember the time that there were many heated discussions about specific brands of motor oil. Many of the owner's manuals specified AGIP/ENI branded fluids, and folks went to great lengths to get it. Some were convinced that using anything else would result in catastrophe. Fast forward a few years, and Moto Guzzi is recommending "Castrol products". LOL - and now it's "whatever" 10W-60.I still have some friends that use the AGIP/ENI fluids. And why not ? They have the coolest emblem of them all. Ya can't get this on a jug of something else.
53 replies and 582 views in one day. Is this a proverbial oil thread? It’s still winter around here….Interesting reading, not much thread drift. I don’t have anything that uses 10/60 but that doesn’t matter in an oil thread. My questions are : does anyone feel guilt not using the specified oil? Are there many reports of oil related engine failures? Do you operate at rated power for more than a blast? Do you check your safety equipment on a daily basis? The rev limiter is part of the safety equipment.
Just because I can't resist beating this dead horse a little more....Given that 10W60 can operate at higher temperatures longer without thermal breakdown than 10W40, one could speculate that an air cooled engine might benefit (vs. a water cooled engine) from this capability.Or you could just buy the damn 4T 10W60 like the manual says and call it a day...