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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2017, 02:25:06 PM »
Just one of the few shots I love of my Scura...every angle on these bikes is beautiful!



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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2017, 04:20:26 PM »
Not the Coppa Italia and Nero Corsa ???

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Nope, Scura.  Probably last fall.  First time I had seen one at $7K.  I figured it would go about $6500.
Probably had a couple of bidders who wanted it.

Late model Tonti LeMans are starting to pop.  V11's with Ohlins are next in line.

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2017, 05:41:46 PM »
I like the Scura, but I still think the Nero or Rosso were the best of that series.

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2017, 06:55:38 PM »
I had Rosie (Rosso Corsa) and the Mighty Scura at the same time. Both are *fine* machines, and just exude Guzziness.  :smiley: When push came to shove, the Scura stayed.
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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2017, 06:55:38 PM »

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2017, 07:42:26 PM »
I've not ridden the Ohlins models, but for beauty, this is the best of the bunch



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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2017, 08:05:00 PM »
Maybe we can get the Mighty Scura to the Ozarks and you can see what the Ohlins bikes are all about one of these days..
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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2017, 09:29:50 AM »
What are the differences between the Scura and the Rosso/Nero
Chuck ?  : ) still learning.

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2017, 09:54:59 AM »
Maybe we can get the Mighty Scura to the Ozarks and you can see what the Ohlins bikes are all about one of these days..

I would do my best to keep up with superior equipment and riders- such as Scrua and Sportster riders. 

I can only hope those skilled riders would pull over at the next highway interchange so a straggler as myself can catch up. 

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2017, 10:40:06 AM »
Like Chuck, I've been riding a Scura and a Red LeMans back to back for a while. The LeMans has aftermarket Ohlins on the back, and stock suspension up front. The Rosso and Nero Corsas are the same as the LeMans, except for the full Ohlins treatment (shock, forks, and damper) and the fancy paint.

The 2003 LeMans, Rosso and Nero Corsas differ from the Scura in that the have internal fuel pumps with smooth tank-tops (Scura and other 2002 bikes have external pumps and a tank pad.) The later bikes also have better engine and driveline paint - the 2002's crinkle paint was recalled for the engine, but it still peels off the transmission and final drive.

The Scura has the "exciting" clutch/flywheel that has already been discussed. The Scura is also matte black, which I like and some (ahem LowRyter) believe looks like primer. Scura also has a bunch of carbon fiber to lighten the bike by probably a whole pound and make it faster... And then there is the psychological value-enhancer - the etched limited edition number on the top triple clamp. However, I think the Scura may have been the best-selling of all the V11s.

Here is a "sticky" thread on the V11 site that explains the model year differences with pics of each.

http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5691

Objectively, any of the Ohlins-equipped bikes from 2003 and later are the best of the series. Subjectively, the Scura works for me despite (or perhaps because I've worked so to eliminate) her flaws.
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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2017, 11:11:02 AM »
Like Chuck, I've been riding a Scura and a Red LeMans back to back for a while. The LeMans has aftermarket Ohlins on the back, and stock suspension up front. The Rosso and Nero Corsas are the same as the LeMans, except for the full Ohlins treatment (shock, forks, and damper) and the fancy paint.

The 2003 LeMans, Rosso and Nero Corsas differ from the Scura in that the have internal fuel pumps with smooth tank-tops (Scura and other 2002 bikes have external pumps and a tank pad.) The later bikes also have better engine and driveline paint - the 2002's crinkle paint was recalled for the engine, but it still peels off the transmission and final drive.

The Scura has the "exciting" clutch/flywheel that has already been discussed. The Scura is also matte black, which I like and some (ahem LowRyter) believe looks like primer. Scura also has a bunch of carbon fiber to lighten the bike by probably a whole pound and make it faster... And then there is the psychological value-enhancer - the etched limited edition number on the top triple clamp. However, I think the Scura may have been the best-selling of all the V11s.

Here is a "sticky" thread on the V11 site that explains the model year differences with pics of each.

http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5691

Objectively, any of the Ohlins-equipped bikes from 2003 and later are the best of the series. Subjectively, the Scura works for me despite (or perhaps because I've worked so to eliminate) her flaws.

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2017, 11:41:28 AM »
Scud. it's better to look good than to run good.




« Last Edit: May 13, 2017, 12:01:47 PM by LowRyter »
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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2017, 07:04:57 PM »
I would do my best to keep up with superior equipment and riders- such as Scrua and Sportster riders. 

I can only hope those skilled riders would pull over at the next highway interchange so a straggler as myself can catch up. 

 :bow:

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2017, 07:08:02 PM »
What are the differences between the Scura and the Rosso/Nero
Chuck ?  : ) still learning.

Maurie.

Not much, Maurie. I prefer the fly screen on the Scura. I get helmet buffeting with the Rosso/Nero. I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed for eating crackers.. :smiley:
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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2017, 05:51:06 AM »
Our cigarette would be down to a nubbin, and our coke almost gone before you got there.. :evil: :smiley:
I suppose you've seen that cartoon?

No, but now that you've mentioned it, I realize that I've probably actually DONE what the cartoon likely depicts!

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2017, 08:58:40 AM »
Thanks Chuck/Scud.  :thumb:

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2017, 05:03:56 PM »
Curious about the FD though - is that the same old B/Drive with the
shaft running out side the Swing Arm??

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2017, 05:50:48 PM »
Our cigarette would be down to a nubbin, and our coke almost gone before you got there.. :evil: :smiley:
I suppose you've seen that cartoon?

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2017, 02:11:27 PM »
I like the Scura, but I still think the Nero or Rosso were the best of that series.

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2017, 03:00:27 PM »
Curious about the FD though - is that the same old B/Drive with the
shaft running out side the Swing Arm??

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Re: 2002 Moto Guzzi Scura, the good, the bad and the ugly
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2017, 05:11:56 PM »
Sport 1100 / Daytona 1000 ?  Yes.  Sort of.  Modified Tonti bevel box.

V11 Sport / V11 LeMans ?  No.  The bevel box is specific to these models.

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