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I have no bikes made in this century, I never owned a bike newer than 8 years old...I see here that some buy a new bike almost every year...Either way works I suppose..
Ok, new-ish Moto Guzzi guy here. So you are telling me there are Guzzi motorcycles that are more fun to ride than my Griso and V7 iii Racer?? I take the Racer out if I'm in a bit more relaxed frame of mind, the Griso if more in fast romp frame of mind. What's a good "newest of the old" that would you guys would suggest? I think I need disc brakes. Carbs are fine. I love the looks of the green & black 1000S, beautiful! But I would need to stay in the $5K-$8K range, and it seems any decent green/black 1000S is way over that. Not sure what's a good model.
Enjoy old and new. But there is defiantly a grin factor in the rawness of an old carbed bike.
The newer Guzzi's leave me a bit flat. They aren't as user friendly as the older ones were as far as repair
What makes the V7III less user friendly to repair, besides the fact that you don't have to repair them?
So I found a green frame large valve 1000S ... asking price, $25,000 (need emoji for are you crazy!??!)Guess I'll just have to be happy with my Racer & Griso.
Yes.......explain this to us FURBO.
As I understand from reading here - yes the new bikes don't have many of the niggling vices that we dealt with prior, but when something needs fixing - it requires dealer input instead of a trip to Napa. Guzzi parts distribution has never been 'Walmart Efficient' but dealers are getting thin on ground - so. I generally enjoy doing my own work but the additional complexity of the modern bikes restricts what I'm able to do somewhat. For my Asian iron, parts availability is such that I'm ok with the trade off. Additionally, while the V7's are very pretty, the engine is dated and underpowered compared to the competition. IMO it reached it's zenith in the NTX 750's of the mid 90's....which were also the midsized Stelvio many folks seem to desire. The current Clubman racer makes less HP than the older machine. https://www.moto.it/moto-usate/moto-guzzi/ntx-750/ntx-750/7469320So, like I said, they leave ME flat - hope they sell thousands of'em tho.
I don't know anyone else that makes a mid size mostly metal bike with a shaft drive, air cooled, with easy access to valve adjustments. I have owned 160 HP and 110 Ft-lbs torque motorcycles and I don't feel like the V7III is underpowered at all. If fact, those other bikes were overpowered because I could only harness the power in 3 second spurts that still put me into highly illegal speeds.
Then enjoy it by all means. As I said, it's MY opinion, worth nothing even on Black Friday. That said, the Sport 1100 made almost double the HP tho with a 70lb weight increase. The honda XR650L (no shaft drive - ok) makes 3 less HP and is 80lbs lighter. With AC and easy to do valves.
IMO HP is just a number. If that is what drives your decisions, then so be it. I look for the entire package when looking at bikes. I don't need to be in a conversation with someone where all they care about is how much HP or how fast will it go. Neither of those are why I ride. On the roads I enjoy with the V7 you are not going to be any faster on any of the bikes you describe without risking life or liberty.