$30,000 Flying Fortress!

[flower_king001]

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2017 MOTO GUZZI MGX-21
           
              2017 MOTO GUZZI MGX-21 FLYING FORTRESS MATT BLACK 6-SPEED TRANSMISSION, THIS IS A BRAND NEW BIKE WITH ONLY 74 MILES ON THE SPEEDOMETER, THE RED IN THE CENTER OF THE BIKE AND AROUND HEAD LIGHT BEZEL IS 3-M VINYL WRAP IT CAN BE REMOVED WITH-OUT DAMAGING THE ORIGINAL PAINT FOR BACK TO STOCK LOOK, OGOSTINI MONDELLO DEL LARIO CARBON FIBER EXHAUST SYSTEM SOUNDS AMAZING. THE SEAT COVER WAS CUSTOM MADE BY LUIMOTO AND WAS INSTALLED BY KING COVERS, BIKES COMES COMPLETE WITH ALL OF THE BOOKS KEYS TOOLS  OWNERS MANUEL AND ALL OF THE ORIGINAL FACTORY PARTS. BUY IT WITH CONFIDENCE FULL 2 YEARS WITH OF WARRANTY STARTED 08/18/2018. ALL OF THE WORK HAS BEEN PROFESSIONALLY DONE BY THE MOTO GUZZI DEALER. BELOW YOU WILL FIND THE LIST THE PARTS LIST. FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CALL SAM 408-307-4093

OPTION LIST:
FOOT SWITCH BRAKE SET-BLACK $135.00
PASSENGER FOOT-PEG COVERS BLACK $241.00
DRIVER FOOTRESTS SET-FLOOR BOARDS $379.00
SEAT COVER KIT CARBON $291.00
COVER-BRAKE OIL TANK BLACK $135.00
SWINGARM WASHER-SET BLACK $107.00
REAR BRAKE LEVER SET $214.00
GEAR LEVER SET $214.00
TANK CAP COVER KIT IN CARBON $241.00
LED FOG LIGHTS $295.00
SIDE FAIRING KIT IN CARBON $481.00
INJECTORS COVERS IN CARBON $241.00
SHOW-OFF BLACK CLUTCH LEVER $188.00
SHOW-OFF BLACK FRONT BRAKE LEVER $188.00
REAR FOOT-PEG COVERS $126.00
LED FOG LIGHTS HOLDER KIT $420.00
MOTO GUZZI BIKE COVER $127.00
AGV-CARBON FIBER SPT-MOD TRI-COLOR HELMET $849.00
OGOSTINI MONDELLO DEL LARIO CARBON FIBER EXHAUST SYSTEM $1800.00
LUIMOTO CUSTOM SEAT COVER $350.00
PIAA-LED HEAD-LIGHT  $200.00
CUSTOM VINYL WRAP $1500.00
CUSTOM REAR LED LICENSE PLATE FRAME $200.00
ADDITIONAL CARBON ACCESSORIES $1199.00
CUSTOM MADE BAXLEY LA-CHOCK $300.00
PARTS TOTAL: $10207.00
INSTALATION LABOR $3500.00

TOTAL $ 13707.00 

[Lannis]

The prices on some of those little trim parts are incredible.   And not recoverable through a sale, as I suppose the seller will find .... !

Lannis

[Kev m]

         
              2017 MOTO GUZZI MGX-21 FLYING FORTRESS
 
THIS IS A BRAND NEW BIKE WITH ONLY 74 MILES ON THE SPEEDOMETER 


OPTION LIST:
FOOT SWITCH BRAKE SET-BLACK $135.00
PASSENGER FOOT-PEG COVERS BLACK $241.00
DRIVER FOOTRESTS SET-FLOOR BOARDS $379.00

SEAT COVER KIT CARBON $291.00
COVER-BRAKE OIL TANK BLACK $135.00
SWINGARM WASHER-SET BLACK $107.00
REAR BRAKE LEVER SET $214.00
GEAR LEVER SET $214.00
TANK CAP COVER KIT IN CARBON $241.00
LED FOG LIGHTS $295.00
SIDE FAIRING KIT IN CARBON $481.00
INJECTORS COVERS IN CARBON $241.00
SHOW-OFF BLACK CLUTCH LEVER $188.00
SHOW-OFF BLACK FRONT BRAKE LEVER $188.00
REAR FOOT-PEG COVERS $126.00
LED FOG LIGHTS HOLDER KIT $420.00
MOTO GUZZI BIKE COVER $127.00

AGV-CARBON FIBER SPT-MOD TRI-COLOR HELMET $849.00

OGOSTINI MONDELLO DEL LARIO CARBON FIBER EXHAUST SYSTEM $1800.00

LUIMOTO CUSTOM SEAT COVER $350.00
PIAA-LED HEAD-LIGHT  $200.00
CUSTOM VINYL WRAP $1500.00
CUSTOM REAR LED LICENSE PLATE FRAME $200.00
ADDITIONAL CARBON ACCESSORIES $1199.00
CUSTOM MADE BAXLEY LA-CHOCK $300.00

PARTS TOTAL: $10207.00


INSTALATION LABOR $3500.00


TOTAL $ 13707.00

Bwah ha ha ha ha ha....ha....... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh, sigh....


....I'm literally dying here... the whole thing is patently ridiculous.... especially that parts list.

But then, then...ha ha... the installation costs too...

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH.....

ohhhh, ahhh

gotta catch my brearth.

Holy crap.....


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..... still dying here... 

[fotoguzzi]

what Kev said!

[Chuck in Indiana]

It's not a Harley. Even at that, nephew Harley Rick bought a 34K CVO. When I asked him how he liked it, he said, "I wish I could say I loved it, but I don't. Now, I'm stuck with it because nobody will buy it.."

[Toecutter]

All the farkles in the world are worthless, unless you find a buyer that was planning on buying them. I know I'm not paying $12000 extra bucks for someone else's choices. Why not buy new, add what  you wish, and still pay less?

[Moto]

Some may remember a tarted-up California that was advertised here in Madison for the total price of its accessories, about $17,000. The bike itself was "free." It continued to be listed at that price for most of a year, don't know if it ever sold.

This latest one's owner has a big lesson coming.

[Lannis]

All the farkles in the world are worthless, unless you find a buyer that was planning on buying them. I know I'm not paying $12000 extra bucks for someone else's choices. Why not buy new, add what  you wish, and still pay less?

That's why I can't figure out the world of Hot Rods.  I must admit to being a little prejudiced against them, since I hate to see a neat old car chopped up and used as the basis for an almost unusable custom, but that aside ....

I'll see people take a '32 Ford V8, or a '47 Hudson, or a '51 Mercury, and literally put $100,000 into it turning it into what looks to me like a carbon copy of a thousand other Hot Rods ... chopped, channelled, slammed, frenched, 350 crate engine, Nova front end, tons of chrome, metalflake paint etc etc and that's fine if that's what makes them happy.

But then they go to sell it, and the big selling point is "$100,000 of receipts for work done fully documented".

Why would someone pay that kind of money for someone ELSE'S dream?   Can anyone here explain it using their own experience?   

Lannis

[Rusnak_322]

That's why I can't figure out the world of Hot Rods.  I must admit to being a little prejudiced against them, since I hate to see a neat old car chopped up and used as the basis for an almost unusable custom, but that aside ....

I'll see people take a '32 Ford V8, or a '47 Hudson, or a '51 Mercury, and literally put $100,000 into it turning it into what looks to me like a carbon copy of a thousand other Hot Rods ... chopped, channelled, slammed, frenched, 350 crate engine, Nova front end, tons of chrome, metalflake paint etc etc and that's fine if that's what makes them happy.

But then they go to sell it, and the big selling point is "$100,000 of receipts for work done fully documented".

Why would someone pay that kind of money for someone ELSE'S dream?   Can anyone here explain it using their own experience?   

Lannis

They lack vision, want instant gratification and understand depreciation.  Takes years to get other people to build your ride to your specs, then it isn't worth what you have into it.

[JJ]

Really...time to break out..."The Crack Pipe!!" 

But the real philosophical question would be:   You win $30,000 in the LOTTERY...and what ONE motorcycle would you buy?!?  

Here is what around $30K will buy you at MECUM in Vegas (2018)

[twowheeladdict]

If I had Hollyweird and 'Big boys getting paid to play a game' money I would buy it.  That is the intended audience.  Those with more money than they know what to do with. 

[Ncdan]

That's why I can't figure out the world of Hot Rods.  I must admit to being a little prejudiced against them, since I hate to see a neat old car chopped up and used as the basis for an almost unusable custom, but that aside ....

I'll see people take a '32 Ford V8, or a '47 Hudson, or a '51 Mercury, and literally put $100,000 into it turning it into what looks to me like a carbon copy of a thousand other Hot Rods ... chopped, channelled, slammed, frenched, 350 crate engine, Nova front end, tons of chrome, metalflake paint etc etc and that's fine if that's what makes them happy.

But then they go to sell it, and the big selling point is "$100,000 of receipts for work done fully documented".

Why would someone pay that kind of money for someone ELSE'S dream?   Can anyone here explain it using their own experience?   

Lannis

That's a fact Lannis. Back a few years ago I was going through a change in life crisis and sold my life insurance policy to build my dream car, a 40 Plymouth coupe with all mopar equipment. I put 18,000 bucks in that project. A short few years later I got in the needif cash and finally found a buyer willing to give me 9,500 for it. Never again will I be that ignorant and would tell anyone if you want a street rod fine one about 80-90% finished and just steal the darn thing from some fool:(

[bigbikerrick]

A  local guy I know bought a nice ,original 57 chevy pickup, for 10K, he took it to Phoenix to a high end hot rod builder to have it turned into a full on  turn key custom show truck.
 He ended up putting a total of 120K in the truck. It was a stunner, with independent rear suspension, the whole chassis chromed out, air bags, high end  brakes, you name it that truck had it, along with a gorgeous old school flame paint job.
  After a few years ,he got tired of trailering it to car shows all over the southwest, was afraid to drive it much, because it may get scratched,and took hours to clean underneath, etc.
  When it came time to sell, he tried to get what he had in it for a year+, he even put it in Barrett Jacksons auction, one time in Scottsdale, still didnt sell.
  He kept lowering the price , for a couple of years ,listed it in all the hot rod sites, and finally was able to "get out from under it" for about $75K ! 
  He was without a toy for a while, but now I hear he is building a 68 chevelle, at the same place up in Phoenix!
Go Figgure....
Rick.

[Toecutter]

That's why I can't figure out the world of Hot Rods.  I must admit to being a little prejudiced against them, since I hate to see a neat old car chopped up and used as the basis for an almost unusable custom, but that aside ....

I'll see people take a '32 Ford V8, or a '47 Hudson, or a '51 Mercury, and literally put $100,000 into it turning it into what looks to me like a carbon copy of a thousand other Hot Rods ... chopped, channelled, slammed, frenched, 350 crate engine, Nova front end, tons of chrome, metalflake paint etc etc and that's fine if that's what makes them happy.

But then they go to sell it, and the big selling point is "$100,000 of receipts for work done fully documented".

Why would someone pay that kind of money for someone ELSE'S dream?   Can anyone here explain it using their own experience?   

Lannis

I'm gonna speak from the world of "Motorcycle hotrods"... the circle I hang out in builds garage customs. Now, different mindset from the "Boyd Coddington" type build... they're not building $50,000 bikes, and *most* of them don't cut up decent examples of classics (though some do... sadly) they're usually starting from frankenbikes and beat up, dirt cheap garage finds. Some of their builds are beautiful bikes, others are... unique. I do know some car guys... they tend to do the same thing... buy old rustbuckets and get them up and running and looking cool, but they don't tend to cut up good quality examples.


Some people... want the chopper, want the custom, but can't or won't do it themselves. So they're willing to pay for it.

The builders (that I am speaking of), for the most part, if they do sell them, they usually only make back what they put into them (and it sure as hell isn't a ton... but they do want to cover the cost of the custom paint, and get some sort of return for hours spent)… but that usually tops out at about $6000 range.


As for the shop-built custom "chopper" at outrageous prices? I have zero idea why they sell for that. I guess because buying premade parts from guys that buy premade parts tends to add up over time, and everyone wants to make a profit? However... I think getting paid for one's sweat is fair...


I agree with you though... "custom" says "this is me", to me. Not "this was someone else, but I think it looks cool".

[Daleroso]

There are, as always, exceptions but it's usually the case that full circle, bone stock is worth the most.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Can anyone here explain it using their own experience?   

Back in the day, I built a 39 Chevy business coupe, modified so the two boys would have a place to sit in the back. Fully articulated seats. Lowered, modern front end, Ford 9 inch rear, 350 that I eventually made into a 383 small block. Won some awards. Drove it as our daily driver for 3 years, then sold it to put the kids through Vincennes.
Cheapest car I've ever owned..

[dxhall]

I was in business for a while with some guys who did classic and race car restorations.  We turned down more cars than we accepted.  I can recall the guy who ran the shop telling a potential customer, "You'd save money  if you just gave that car away."  He was right ...

[BrotherJim]

Well, then.  Maybe I'm not in too deep on my $1,200 CL California.  Although...

[Chuck in Indiana]

Well, then.  Maybe I'm not in too deep on my $1,200 CL California.  Although...

That's a pretty nice $1200 Cali.. 

[rocker59]

The prices on some of those little trim parts are incredible.   And not recoverable through a sale, as I suppose the seller will find .... !

Lannis

It's for sale by a "dealer".  LOL! 

$1500 wrap job?  WTF?, over....

[rocker59]

  a total of 120K in the truck. 

  He kept lowering the price , for a couple of years ,listed it in all the hot rod sites, and finally was able to "get out from under it" for about $75K ! 
 

$10,000 to $12,000 depreciation per year?  Not much different from a Mercedes, Bentley, etc...

Pocket change...  (for a guy with $120k to spend on a four-wheeled toy).

[Lannis]

Really...time to break out..."The Crack Pipe!!" 

But the real philosophical question would be:   You win $30,000 in the LOTTERY...and what ONE motorcycle would you buy?!?  

Here is what around $30K will buy you at MECUM in Vegas (2018)

I'll have the Roadmaster.   In 1979 a guy wanted to sell me a nice, running, stone-stock '53 Roadmaster for $900, and I turned him down.   I've been wanting to undo that decision ever since ....

Lannis

[Toecutter]

It's for sale by a "dealer".  LOL! 

$1500 wrap job?  WTF?, over....

I asked a friend to ask her friend (who does vinyl wraps) for a rough estimate in wrapping my buddies' Versys (he hated the orange colour)… he came back with a price just shy of $1000 CDN. Said that wrapping bikes is a PITA due to tight bends and angles, and small surfaces. Could have been full of it, I dunno anything about the topic, really. Just throwing it out there. Maybe $1500 isn't so far off base?

[Toecutter]

I'll have the Roadmaster.   In 1979 a guy wanted to sell me a nice, running, stone-stock '53 Roadmaster for $900, and I turned him down.   I've been wanting to undo that decision ever since ....

Lannis

Since we're dreaming... I'll take the Zundapp.

[twowheeladdict]

 I guess because buying premade parts from guys that buy premade parts tends to add up over time, and everyone wants to make a profit? However... I think getting paid for one's sweat is fair...

A couple years ago my line trimmer needed a new carburetor.   I called the local place and they wanted $85 for it.  I went online and ordered the exact same carburetor direct from Hong Kong for $10 delivered.  Cut out the exporter, importer, wholesaler, distributor, and retailer who all add onto the price for passing the part through. 

There are vendors on Amazon and other sites that never touch the product they are selling.  It gets drop shipped from the manufacturer or distributor when you complete your order. 

In today's global environment it is kinda crazy that these types of supply chains still exist.

[Murray]

So full sticker for a second hand helmet? There are places in the world you are not legal allowed to resell a helmet once its been used.

[Tom]

There are, as always, exceptions but it's usually the case that full circle, bone stock is worth the most.

Main reason, I keep the fleet stock or pretty close to it.

[Kev m]

So full sticker for a second hand helmet? There are places in the world you are not legal allowed to resell a helmet once its been used.

If it's a dealer selling it, the helmet may indeed be brand new.

Still, lunacy.

[Cam3512]

Here’s someone else hitting the crack pipe...

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113384428911

[JJ]

Here’s someone else hitting the crack pipe...

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113384428911

Yes...let's fill that ol' crack pipe FULL and inhale deeply...




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