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It's a 1000cc Guzzi and was never meant to compete with a 1250cc BMW.
It will have to if they want it to sell to non Guzzisti. What else is it meant to compete with? Anyone wanting a twin-cylinder, shaft-drive, traditional-type (..ie. non 'adventure') sports-tourer will be looking at both, surely.
None of those over priced Guzzi's listed above ever sold at the ridiculous retail prices they first came out at. At best I bet they averaged selling at 30% off sticker 3-5 years after sitting on a dealer's floor.
Chad, I had the first or second V85 and V7III in the area. Yep, paid full boat and then some.The V85 has been sitting behind the dealers for the last three months with a piece of plastic over the hole that should have a cylinder on it. NO Parts! No idea when and neither the dealer or I think the parts ordered will fix the existing problem. No, I won't elaborate at this time. I'm hopping Piaggio steps up and helps me out. Having a new bike you can't ride sucks.
I was told it didn't apply to bikes but, I'm not sure I believe that. I need to see if I can find out. I finally got to talk to a Piaggio rep today and he is reviewing it. Fingers crossed.
The Lemon Law does not cover all types of vehicles – Motorcycles, mopeds, all-terrain vehicles, boats, trucks with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 12,000 pounds, and vehicles that are not self-propelled (e.g., trailers, campers) are not covered by the Lemon Law.
I just got off my asss and looked that up also.BUT! I actually bought it in North Carolina but registered it in Ga. So, maybe, this might apply.NC DOJProtecting ConsumersAutomobilesLemon LawLemon LawThe North Carolina Lemon Law, also known as the New Motor Vehicles Warranties Act (N.C.G.S. 20-351), applies to new passenger cars, pick-up trucks, motorcycles and most vans bought in North Carolina. It requires manufacturers to repair defects that affect the use, value, or safety of a new motor vehicle within the first 24 months or 24,000 miles (whichever comes first).
As I understand it, the engine/transmission assembly is 4-inches shorter in length than than the V85 small block.That has allowed a longer swingarm, plus the new transmission has a lower output shaft, allowing a lower swingarm pivot point, doing away with the need for a floating bevel box.
There's a lot I like about this bike. A lot.But like others have eluded, I don't like that torque number either. 115HP/74 ft-lb? 90% achieved at 3500RPM with red line of 9500RPM?....That's not good at all in my book. Sounds like a high revving metric that goes nowhere. I would have rather had it the other way around. Or maybe instead of bragging on 4" shorter cylinders than a V85, go ahead and add that 4" back and try and get more equal numbers. 115/115 would be amazing.
I can see Rocker riding that new bike.
I've merged the V100 EICMA thread into the V100 Mandello threadfest.We can keep the V100 chat contained here until they start hitting the streets next year.