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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1020 on: May 29, 2016, 08:32:52 AM »
Beetle, Just want to say many thanks for the maps you sent to Woody. The Norge runs great now!

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1021 on: May 30, 2016, 05:38:31 AM »
managed to get it to connect to the main Diag programme, but cant get it to connect to the reader ?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1022 on: May 30, 2016, 05:58:59 AM »
Are you trying to run GuzziDiag and the reader simultaneously? You can't.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1023 on: May 30, 2016, 11:20:56 AM »
No,I read that on here. Gave up trying to get reader to connect and tried Dial which worked?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1023 on: May 30, 2016, 11:20:56 AM »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1024 on: May 30, 2016, 04:19:23 PM »
Are you using the correct reader version?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1025 on: May 31, 2016, 03:32:32 AM »
the one listed on GD site - VO.67   tried deleting it and reloading a couple of times but just cant get it to work
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1026 on: May 31, 2016, 03:40:54 AM »
You've got the wrong software for your bike. That the 15x Reader. You've got a Norge, right? You need the 5x Reader.  This one: LINKY

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1027 on: May 31, 2016, 05:20:06 AM »
that would explain it then, many thanks i will try that tonight.  did someone on here say they had a new map for a Norge 8v ?
« Last Edit: May 31, 2016, 05:20:37 AM by jim mac »

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1028 on: May 31, 2016, 05:55:55 AM »
That would be me. See the link in my signature.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1029 on: May 31, 2016, 08:18:07 AM »
2013 V7 stone map updated successfully!

With the help of this thread, and other threads on this forum, and pm's from Beetle, I have updated my 2013 V7 Stone with the 352BV738 map. I used Guzidiag V0.47, IAWMIUG3Reader V0.04, and IAWMIUG3Writer V0.02. The apps I used are the Mac versions on a MacBook Pro with OSX 10.11.5.

I followed the tutorial at the start of this thread - back 35 pages. I had a couple of stumbles, but Beetle picked me up and helped me along.

First, when I tried to find the new map .bin file (I had placed on my desktop) with the writer app open, I could not locate the file. I scrolled down the list in the writer's far left window and navigated to my desktop, but when I opened the desktop by clicking on the arrow to the file's left, I saw some of my desktop files listed, but not the .bin map files (not the new one nor the old one I had saved).

I solved this by clicking on the name (the text) "desktop" instead of the arrow. This caused a bunch of files to be displayed in the middle (files) window of the writer app. I chose the new map and followed the prompts to load the new map to the bike.

When I opened Guzzidiag to set the TPS, I connected to the bike and followed the tutorial steps, but I could not see a TPS Reset option. A patient and non-judgemental Beetle explained:

"First up, we don't reset the TPS on a V7. In the 'measurements' screen, select 'Throttle' in one of the drop-downs.

If the 'Throttle' reads 0.9 or 1.0, you only need to reset the auto learning parameters.

If the reading is anything other than 0.9 or 1.0, then (and only then), follow these steps:

1) In the top menu, go to View -> Actors
2) In any of the drop down menus select "Reset autolearning parameters", then click start
3) In any of the drop down menus select "Throttle self-learning", then click start.
3) In the top menu, go back to View -> Measurements
4) In any of the drop down menus select "Throttle", the value should now be 0.9 or 1.0.

Done!"

Done, indeed. The only thing I had left to do was to click on the donation button.

Thanks again.

Stephen

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1030 on: June 01, 2016, 02:07:12 AM »
That would be me. See the link in my signature.

right,  got the reader working,  correct version helps, and saved my map.   did a TPS reset etc.  all fine, easy to do, good practice.  now going to balance the throttle and do the TPS again - but how do you get an allen key into those bloody air screws, impossible !

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1031 on: June 01, 2016, 02:12:30 AM »
Nah, S'not, just pretend you're a proctologist.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1032 on: June 01, 2016, 05:03:51 AM »
Nah, S'not, just pretend you're a proctologist.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1033 on: June 01, 2016, 08:56:40 AM »
Nah, S'not, just pretend you're a proctologist.

Pete

i can get my finger in but not my tool. 

everything i have tried is not at right angle or gets obstructed by other parts, you must have a magic tool Pete

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1034 on: June 01, 2016, 09:19:55 AM »
I lay on my back and look up w/starter cover off on LH, I use a 5mm 'Ball' end & the short end of a 90*allen on my set clears the mechanism.
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1035 on: June 01, 2016, 09:20:19 AM »
i can get my finger in but not my tool. 

everything i have tried is not at right angle or gets obstructed by other parts, you must have a magic tool Pete

SO many straight lines here.. :evil:

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1036 on: June 04, 2016, 05:14:38 AM »
I think I read in another older thread that people with CH340 chipsets had trouble using a Mac and Guzzidiag.
CH340 chipset installs on mac with a port that is similar to /dev/tty.wchserialusb or something like that.
I managed to make some progress after reading on the guzzidiag page:
The USB adapter is searched as /dev/tty.usbserial*, where * is a placeholder.

So I made a symlink from tty.wchusbserial to tty.usbserial1 and I got my com connection in Guzzidiag. Still didn't work as I was using a crap older laptop, the cable didn't work as well from a vmware machine on that laptop, so there's something with the USB.
But at least I got the correct serial port completed in the guzzidiag pop-up menu. So I presume it will work. Hope I have time to test with another mac computer.
Also one can find a way to rename the port file name directly, I tried a symlink and guzzidiag seemed to be happy with it.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1037 on: June 05, 2016, 02:36:30 AM »
seeing a com port is something else then reliable communicating over it with the right timing. Most ch340 tries fail. It is something we are not putting any effort in. Just buy the right cables for the 20 $ they cost
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1038 on: June 07, 2016, 04:15:50 AM »
Of-course the right cable is the best cable but, like me, many don't know this issue of ftdi/wch chips. So if they end up with a CH340 one and need to sort out something, the info may help.
My CH340 works very good from an iMac running a virtual machine of Windows 8.1.
Read and wrote the ECU, cleared the errors etc. No problems.
The chip itself does not offer lower quality communication. It's just tech, like the ftdi one. The problem is the driver. But once set up, it works perfect, just like the ftdi one.
The ftdi is easier to use as it has very good drivers, and most infrastructure is designed around it, and is better supported. That's all. The chips do the same things, like two bikes get from A to B.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1039 on: June 07, 2016, 06:33:34 AM »
Of-course the right cable is the best cable but, like me, many don't know this issue of ftdi/wch chips. So if they end up with a CH340 one and need to sort out something, the info may help.
My CH340 works very good from an iMac running a virtual machine of Windows 8.1.
Read and wrote the ECU, cleared the errors etc. No problems.
The chip itself does not offer lower quality communication. It's just tech, like the ftdi one. The problem is the driver. But once set up, it works perfect, just like the ftdi one.
The ftdi is easier to use as it has very good drivers, and most infrastructure is designed around it, and is better supported. That's all. The chips do the same things, like two bikes get from A to B.

Bob, did it work with 15x or 5am?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1040 on: June 08, 2016, 08:12:10 AM »
Hello, all! New member here.

Some days ago I've bought the "A" rollerization kit for my 2010 Norge 8V. After engine rollerization I'm thinking a bit: is it nesessary to write another fuelling map after this modification?

I've tried searching this thread, but haven't found an answer. :(
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1041 on: June 08, 2016, 08:30:10 AM »
Hello, all! New member here.�

Some days ago I've bought the "A" rollere�zation kit for my 2010 Norge 8V. After en�gine rollerization I'm thinking a bit: is �it nesessary to write another fuelling ma�p after this modification?

I've tried searching this thread, but hav�en't found an answer. :(

 I've not seen any recomendation from guzzi. So:
A:  the camprofile should be close to stock
B:  the camprofile is different but they don't care
C: the stelvio 2 lambda map might fit better, only the tachocorrection should be changed to the one the norge has now. Easy with tunerpro
D: You get a map from Beetle
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1042 on: June 08, 2016, 08:34:28 AM »
I've not seen any recomendation from guzzi. So:
A:  the camprofile should be close to stock

Thank you very much!

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1043 on: June 09, 2016, 10:21:39 AM »
And one more stupid question. I've not seen Norge 1200GT 8V in the GuzziDiag drop menu. What should I choose for maximum correct diagnosis and parameters reset?

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1044 on: June 14, 2016, 05:38:05 PM »
Going to need some help here.  '15 Stelvio and my LoneLec cables are assigned to Com21 using driver version 2.12.16.0 dated 3/9/16 from FTDI.  I am using a Surface Pro 4 with Windows 10 and I downloaded the drivers for it based on the first post in this thread. 

My issue is that IAW5xReader ver0-24 will not allow me to pick Com21, it only lists Com19.  I can connect GuzziDiag at com21 and that seems to work fine.  I've tried to update the driver for Com21 but windows says I have the most up to date versions.  Any ideas?

EDIT:  I looked and realized the drivers listed on the front page are version 2.8.30.0 so I loaded them onto Com21 but IAW5xReader still will not allow me to pick Com21
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1045 on: June 14, 2016, 06:13:08 PM »
You should be able to select which com port number is assigned using Device Manager.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1046 on: June 14, 2016, 06:27:29 PM »
Thanks!  Did that and am now downloading the map on the ECU.  Further question would the 5AM two Lambda  V1.30 map on the GuzziDiag page be a good map to load out and try?
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1047 on: June 14, 2016, 07:29:45 PM »
That's not a map. It's the XDF file for TunerPro, for displaying maps in a human readable format.

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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1048 on: June 16, 2016, 10:57:12 PM »
I just installed Beetle's maps on the new Norge and V7.   A very noticeable improvement everywhere.  Excellent!! :bow: 
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Re: GuzziDiag HowTo - A tutorial for beginners
« Reply #1049 on: June 17, 2016, 08:40:26 AM »
received my cables yesterday from Lonelec, took about 10 days
downloaded guzzidag, writer and reader, and the cable drivers, unzipped and put in specific folders

plugged in cables, didnt get a request for drivers.

opened device manager, ports (com3) and driver tab says

Driver Provider: FTDI
Driver Date     : 3/9/16
Driver Version  : 2.12.16.0

I assume I am good to go here.
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