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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Spuddy on January 25, 2015, 08:50:42 PM
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It was narcissistic of me to assume only I was gifted passable knowledge of genuine rock. I AM HUMBLED and I won't forget it.
Suppose if I pulled out Blue Cheer, Spirit, Robin Trowyer or Moby Grape, more than one of you nabobs will name all the bass players...
Spuddy
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Yeah , or all seven members of Los Lobos ;D
Dusty
Or the keyboard player who played the flute on "Hitchin' A Ride" .....
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not rock but I still miss him greatly.
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Suppose if I pulled out Blue Cheer, Spirit, Robin Trowyer or Moby Grape, more than one of you nabobs will name all the bass players...
I'm definitely an Ole Fart....(saw Blue Cheer and Spirit in their original configurations ['67??], also saw Sun at the old Brown Shoe in Chicago [late 60's]).
Picking up the gauntlet.
I wouldn't include Robin Trower in that list...definitely later generation (even though he did play with Procul Harum *after* "Whiter Shade of Pale").
So there.
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Fotoguzzi - nice shot of Mr. Blount!
re: Blue Cheer -- even Owsley made mistakes…
cr
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It was narcissistic of me to assume only I was gifted passable knowledge of genuine rock. I AM HUMBLED and I won't forget it.
Suppose if I pulled out Blue Cheer, Spirit, Robin Trowyer or Moby Grape, more than one of you nabobs will name all the bass players...
Spuddy
Not so much a gift as you obviously had some brain cells survive. Most of the folks who listened those folks well....
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Not so much a gift as you obviously had some brain cells survive. Most of the folks who listened those folks well....
With Raw Sienna, Jethro Tull and Led Zeplin all at once in the Electric Theater and Hendrix x2 at the Chicago Civic Opera House, not THAT many survived. Look, I'm on this website...
Spuddy
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Ahh , Savoy Brown ;-T
Dusty
;-T One of my favorites. Saw them (or basically Kim Simmonds) at a local blues festival a few years back. Unfortunately Chris Youlden wasn't present. Still....was a good show.
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While I saw my fair share of concerts in the early 70's and beyond, I'm not stuck in the past. No matter what kind of music you like, someone is making it right now and lots of it is damn good. You just have to work a bit to find it, cause you're likely not going to get it on your local radio station like you did in the olden days.
Plenty of good music forums available to get inspirations or check Al Kooper's blog New Music for old people. http://www.themortonreport.com/features/new-music-for-old-people/ (http://www.themortonreport.com/features/new-music-for-old-people/)
Lots of exciting new talent out there to support.
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Sorry Geezers, REAL ROCK means Carl Perkins, Elvis, Jerry Lee, Narvile Felts,Wanda Jackson, Charlie Rich etc. All good bands mentioned, but if you're flapping your geezer jaws do it right! ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztFHvNwRb6Q
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http://youtu.be/ASJxApEz_YA
http://youtu.be/aESPUNm38Ow
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Entwhistle was great. I saw the Who, double-billed with the Grateful Dead at the Oakland baseball stadium. One of the stranger double bills ever, practically two different crowds as most of the Who fans left afterwards and most of the Deadheads didn't show up until after the Who finished. A loss for both…
I wasn't expecting much from the Who. Oh boy was I surprised. Townshend is quite under-rated. Moon was on form, no need for a substitute from the audience. Entwhistle sounded more like Jack Bruce… and of course the Deadhead tapers never to my knowledge bothered to use tape for the Who. The Dead were pretty good for the days and when Lesh hit low notes the whole Coliseum would vibrate. Good times!
A friend was in a boat some distance offshore. Heard everything just fine…
What was that you said, sonny? :BEER:
cr
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Did someone mention bass? :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_OQfvKwUlg
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Entwhistle was great. I saw the Who, double-billed with the Grateful Dead at the Oakland baseball stadium. One of the stranger double bills ever, practically two different crowds as most of the Who fans left afterwards and most of the Deadheads didn't show up until after the Who finished. A loss for both…
I wasn't expecting much from the Who. Oh boy was I surprised. Townshend is quite under-rated. Moon was on form, no need for a substitute from the audience. Entwhistle sounded more like Jack Bruce… and of course the Deadhead tapers never to my knowledge bothered to use tape for the Who. The Dead were pretty good for the days and when Lesh hit low notes the whole Coliseum would vibrate. Good times!
A friend was in a boat some distance offshore. Heard everything just fine…
What was that you said, sonny? :BEER:
cr
I've been reading Pete Townshend's Autobiography where he talks about playing with the dead. The Who also billed with a number of Jazz performers; Mose Allison, Miles Davis, Rahssan Roland Kirk, etc. Too bad there isn't more of that today. lots of great new Jazz artists that could use some exposure.
I saw John Entwhistle's Ox as the backup for Joe Walsh back in the Rocky Mountain Way days. Great show at the Arie Crown in Chicago. John's LP Whistle Rhymes was a classic with some really great performers and well written songs.
While I always thought Pete lost his hearing cause of all the loud concerts, he claims it was due to the excessive amount of explosive that Moon put in his drum kit and set off at the end of their performance on the Smothers Brothers show while they were smashing their instruments.
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Okay here's the argument stopper. The first rock and roll record and artist was Arthur Crudup.
Even Elvis and Chuck Berry agreed on that. He first did this one in 1942, later in the fifties he even did a few with Elvis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHQUvCkV20
For me, the first R&R I heard were chuck Berry and Elvis in the mid fifties on radio.
You guys remember radio don't'cha? It was like TV only the pictures were only in your head.
For the first couple days I thought the title of this thread was Musical ole farts so I didn't click on it.
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Okay here's the argument stopper. The first rock and roll record and artist was Arthur Crudup.
Even Elvis and Chuck Berry agreed on that. He first did this one in 1942, later in the fifties he even did a few with Elvis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHQUvCkV20
For me, the first R&R I heard were chuck Berry and Elvis in the mid fifties on radio.
You guys remember radio don't'cha? It was like TV only the pictures were only in your head.
For the first couple days I thought the title of this thread was Musical ole farts so I didn't click on it.
I agree Jim, THAT'S Rock and Roll! Never was a big British invation fan except for the Beatles.Rockabilly is where it's at!
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When Elvis first was heard on radio, he was billed as the white guy who sings black.
BTW, I liked Chuck Berry better.
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Okay here's the argument stopper. The first rock and roll record and artist was Arthur Crudup.
Even Elvis and Chuck Berry agreed on that. He first did this one in 1942, later in the fifties he even did a few with Elvis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHQUvCkV20
For me, the first R&R I heard were chuck Berry and Elvis in the mid fifties on radio.
You guys remember radio don't'cha? It was like TV only the pictures were only in your head.
For the first couple days I thought the title of this thread was Musical ole farts so I didn't click on it.
The argument against this one and in favor of Rocket 88 is the guitar is distorted in Rocket 88. I think you are mostly right but you can't stop the argument, however, cause It's Rock and Roll Baby...
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Years ago I found a Savoy double-LP (remember LPs? oh wait, they're the only form of music increasing in sales now :D ) by stride/boogie-woogie pianist Albert Aamons. Recorded in the early 1940s iirc. Boogie-woogie was proto-rock & roll but the surprise was the guitarist -- Chuck Norris by name (and obviously not *that* Chuck Norris) and sounding very much like Chuck Berry. Ten years before Chuck Berry. Being poor and cheap (Guzzi content) at the time, I checked it out of the library and taped it onto cassette. Need to find the CD or LP, good stuff!
cr
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When Elvis first was heard on radio, he was billed as the white guy who sings black.
BTW, I liked Chuck Berry better.
Elvis's early Sun recordings were straight ahead blues. Man, he could *do* it. What a talent...
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Keeping it M/C related this tribute to Moby Grape Motorcycle Irene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93urKLfrlzk
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Elvis ... a sad example of the effects of an addiction to fried banana and PB sandwiches , which led to an even worse jones for sequins and bell bottoms ;D
Dusty
You have a way of dwelling on the negative side of an artists career Dusty, While I'm not a died in the wool Elvis fan, his early work was ground breaking in the history of Rock and Roll. His Rockabilly stuff was great and he was a huge infulence on the music. Remember Heartbreak Hotel? Think of all the hotties that were falling at his feet. I am 100% hetero but DAMN he was a good lookin' man in his day! (later not so much) But hey, it happens to all of us right?
I bet you have a sequin speedo don't you?
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Ahh , Savoy Brown ;-T
Dusty
Foghat
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Foghat
MASTERS of 3 bar chords :D
Slow ride.......take it easy
As long as we're talkin' bar chords I must mention Link Wray, the INVENTOR of the power chord. This guy REALLY changed rock. Ask Jimmy Page, He'll tell you!
Jimmy Page jams on Link Wray
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnyY3rJoaZ4
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Sent from a submarine in Oklahoma .
[/quote]I do ? Hmm ... Elvis just never blew my dress up the way that B Holly or Bo Diddly did , sorry .
Dusty
Oh, we're talking about YOUR TASTE, I thought we were talking about rockers that infulenced rock. sorry
Back to: I know a cat named way out Willie 1 chord: chop chop chop chop chop............... .chop chop ;D
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Geez fellas , all I said was ...
Elvis never wrote a song , didn't invent anything like the Bo Diddly beat , I might even suggest that Eddie Cochrane had a greater influence . Isn't Summertime Blues the most covered song in R&R ?
Dusty
Sent from a submarine in Oklahoma .
Oh that's right, I forgot about all those Bo Dribbly movies with all those beach blanket hotties jumpin' around not showing thier belly buttons ;D
And yes, even Alan Jackson did Summertime Blues.
Ju know I'm just messin' wit cho mahn!
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I was under the impression that The Kinks" You Really Got Me" in 1964 was one of the first power cords in modern rock.
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Link Wray and disciple play Elvis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZd_5XUXMRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZd_5XUXMRU)
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cr
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I was under the impression that The Kinks" You Really Got Me" in 1964 was one of the first power cords in modern rock.
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Pretty sure link was the original dude to lay his left index finger across all 6 wires and crank the volume and tremolo up to 11 and wail.
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Fotoguzzi - Wow reference of Herman Sonny Blount aka SUN RA! On a Guzzi site. Impressive
I can name all the members of Tower of Power 1973.
Also, my memory is fading but I think I can name the 4 guys in The Beatles!
Wil B.
Broadview, IL
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EVERYBODY here is RIGHT!!! Cool to have such agreement in abundance!
I wonder though if future Geezers will be talking complete classic artists like we here are today? We saw it evolve and flourish like no other time. There's great stuff out there to be sure, but as groundbreaking, and to stand the test of time like ours, remains to be seen.
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Link Wray and disciple play Elvis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZd_5XUXMRU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZd_5XUXMRU)
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cr
(http://www.dekedickerson.com/photoarchive/2005-linkwray/link-minn1998-1.jpg)
Link, Rick Miller and Deke Dickerson
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Just listened to INXS "Welcome To Wherever You Are." Sophisticated, exotic, earthy. A great album. [Are they still called that?] Lead singer sorta Lou Reed-ish. Wonder what happened to 'em...
Spuddy
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One of my favorites, Hound Dog Taylor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX9UG8rqRRQ
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Just listened to INXS "Welcome To Wherever You Are." Sophisticated, exotic, earthy. A great album. [Are they still called that?] Lead singer sorta Lou Reed-ish. Wonder what happened to 'em...
Spuddy
Sex drugs and rock n roll got to Michael. The rest of them became reality tv show stars then toured for a while. I think they hung it up down under a few years ago however.
That album came out around Nirvana times here in the U.S. and didn't sell well. It's a good one although I probably haven't listened to it in 20 years.
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I was under the impression that The Kinks" You Really Got Me" in 1964 was one of the first power cords in modern rock.
Pretty sure link was the original dude to lay his left index finger across all 6 wires and crank the volume and tremolo up to 11 and wail.
Everybody who has ever played an electric guitar at volume owes Link Wray. He was the first to use distortion purposefully. Notice I did not say first to record distortion but first to use it. He used to punch holes in his speaker cones with a pencil, crank it up to 11 and have at it. He would do the same to your amp if you were silly enough to lend it to him. It was a standing joke with his band who would shake their heads anytime someone loaned him an amp or a cabinet. He went through speakers like most guitarists go though cigarettes. There were many nights the gig was in question because the equipment from last night's gig was rubbish and a replacement wasn't found until the last minute. He was doing this stuff in the 50's in the music halls of DC and the outlying areas. Rumble was written at a roller skating rink in Fredricksburg, VA when a rumble broke out and Link decided to supply the sountrack. I know 2 of the guys who were in his band and I got the chance to meet Link. He was the nicest, most humble man you ever met but he made guitars and amplifiers cringe in fear when they saw him coming. He was a true originator and pioneer.
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That's funny, Bob. I read that Roy Buchanan used to sometimes take a razor blade to his speaker cones to get the sound he was looking for.
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I wonder if that old genuine Fuzz pedal in the basement is going to be worth something someday?
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Poorbob, your on it dude.
I got your classic rock right here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY&index=1&list=PLlFoudhGc6a75xSqfGUala5BJGUX8Vpxs
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Sex drugs and rock n roll got to Michael. The rest of them became reality tv show stars then toured for a while.
If I remember right he had an accident that resulted in a head injury that killed his sense of smell and taste, and exacerbated his depressive tendencies. After his Fiancé (?) left him for Bob Geldoff, he hung himself. That's what I remember antway, no drugs. Ian Curtis also killed himself for mental health/medical reasons.
There should be a rule that if the lead singer/ front man dies tragically that you don't replace him and keep going just to keep the money coming in.
Shame on:
The Doors
INXS
QUEEN
Lynyrd Skynyrd
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Link Wray, definitely. Hank Ballard and the Midnighters, Little Richard, Jerry Lee and others.
Tom
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Hell I still like Big Band music, Glen Miller & that kind of stuff.
Dean
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Hell I still like Big Band music, Glen Miller & that kind of stuff.
Dean
If I had to pick a favorite, big band would be my pick too. js
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Speaking of music and old guys , Gordon Lightfoot is touring , still sounds good at what , 105 ? ;D (Just kidding, he is really only about 90 :D )
Dusty
At that age I hope he doesn't do all the verses of The Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald. Or but green bananas. ;D
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Speaking of music and old guys , Gordon Lightfoot is touring , still sounds good at what , 105 ? ;D (Just kidding, he is really only about 90 :D ) Dusty
Back in the 1960s my band played a Gordon Lightfoot tune or two. Audience loved them. My Band Days:
http://www.dansher.com/banddays.htm (http://www.dansher.com/banddays.htm)
And to keep the motorcycle content, here's the iconic chorus to Black Denim Trousers:
http://www.dansher.com/audio/bikes/BlackDenim_ch.wav (http://www.dansher.com/audio/bikes/BlackDenim_ch.wav)
With love (Rock 'N Roll never forgets),
'Geezer
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Pretty cool Geezer ;-T
Dusty
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That's funny, Bob. I read that Roy Buchanan used to sometimes take a razor blade to his speaker cones to get the sound he was looking for.
It's a longstanding tradition among guitarists to "borrow" other people's ideas. It's not stealing if you give the idea back when you're done with it!
Seriously, Roy Buchanan was an unbelievably talented guitarist who, like Link Wray, also happened to be from the DC area. He was "out there" but like Link, a very humble, very nice guy. There are a lot of guitarists who achieved a lot more fame and fortune than Roy Buchanan but I can't name you a single one who was a better guitarist.