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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2021, 05:39:20 PM »
So, out of curiosity, any chance we might get you to measure the rear swing arm from the center point of the pivot to the center point of the axle bolt?

I have heard the swing arm is longer than the previous V7 models, but I have not substantiated that. No hurry BTW.

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18 1/16 inches.

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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2021, 05:55:01 PM »
Looks to be the same as my V7lll.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2021, 06:25:39 PM »
Maybe this time next year there will be a few more 850cc models to choose from. 
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2021, 06:32:54 PM »
I'm trying to pay fairly close attention to the break in shift light, so I'm not sure how much I can tell you at this point.  I'd been riding Doug's Roamer since he bought the V85TT and was absolutely swept away by the V9 engine.  But the Roamer felt much more spread out as far as the riding position, and I couldn't get near as comfortable riding and handling it as I was on my V7 II.  Doug said it stood to reason I ought to go try the new 850 so away we went to the nearest dealer, Sloan's.  Rolling away on the test ride I nearly felt disappointed, the 850 lacks a good bit of that mechanical, rumbling, thumping feel that I enjoy so much on the V9. It's there, it's just not a prominent feature the way it is on the Roamer.  The V7 850 fits like a glove though, and handles without a thought, completely natural.  I went home and studied for two days just to make sure.  I've got 200 miles on it now, like it more with each ride.

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p.s. I'll get that measurement for you, John Henry.  Any other questions, just ask.

That is how, regrettably, I feel about my III, which -- has so unlike the Stornello's V7 -- a kiss-your-sister sort of blandness.  It's a pleasant machine, but not, IMO, a thrilling one.  I'm glad the new V7-850 delivers more of the visceral joy of my other Guzzis. 

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Re: 2021 V7 850
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2021, 12:01:45 AM »
18 1/16 inches.

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The V7III is 18-1/8 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2021, 06:57:28 AM »
The V7III is 17-1/2 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7
It's from the V85TT.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2021, 09:00:47 AM »
Can we get rid of this thread? I just got back and started riding my old v7 Classic a little over a week ago, and now I have to read this thread about how great the new 850 is.  :bike-037:
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2021, 09:09:49 AM »
Can we get rid of this thread? I just got back and started riding my old v7 Classic a little over a week ago, and now I have to read this thread about how great the new 850 is.  :bike-037:

And that is why many manufacturers make periodic improvements or changes.

Some Japanese models have gone almost unchanged for 20 years.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2021, 09:10:12 AM »
Can we get rid of this thread? I just got back and started riding my old v7 Classic a little over a week ago, and now I have to read this thread about how great the new 850 is.  :bike-037:
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2021, 09:18:25 AM »
The V7III is 17-1/2 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7

It was as designed and used first on the V9, then used on the V85, and now has made its way to the new v7.   In conclusion, all modern 850s have the longer stronger swing arm.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2021, 09:19:40 AM »
I think Bettythebears V7, is not a 70s version, but a more recent V7 small block.

I don't think many of us will feel sorry for you, I know I would love an old V7, I don't think you could persuade me to swap my old Eldorado for one 40 years younger.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2021, 09:24:57 AM »
V7 classic is the years prior to the v7 II.

Saying v7 I would make me think of the old school ones.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2021, 10:26:59 AM »
I have a 2019 V7lll Special. I just went and remeasured mine. It is 18 1/32 inches.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2021, 01:04:28 PM »
I have a 2019 V7lll Special. I just went and remeasured mine. It is 18 1/32 inches.
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Interesting.  I will try and remember to measure mine when I get home. 
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2021, 01:51:02 PM »
Interesting.  I will try and remember to measure mine when I get home.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2021, 02:23:45 PM »
^^ Oh boy.  Anyhow, on one forum or another somebody asked about the electrical output of the new V7 850.  According to my owner's manual it's 430W.  It says: Permanent magnet alternator 12V-430W.  Same as the TT I believe.

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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2021, 03:44:32 PM »
Interesting.  I will try and remember to measure mine when I get home.

Center to center with a tape measure, 18", so taking in standard deviation looks to be the same. 
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« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2021, 03:48:12 PM »
The V7III is 17-1/2 inches
I wonder if they used the rear end from the V9, it certainly looks beefier than the V7


Did you measure this?   2 of us say 18". 17.5" to the bottom of the shock maybe.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2021, 05:40:13 AM »
Thanks for the nice compliments, everybody.  I don't mind the black rear fender, but blue would have been nice.  I hate they cut down the
front fender, so I have a "fenda extenda" on the way.

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Great looking bike Sarah!  Nicest looking "new bike" I have seen in a very long time.  A bike that just might get me back into the Guzzi Owner's pack,  Fenda Extenda's are awesome.  The person who came up with that idea deserves to become very wealthy.  I have also made mudflaps from rubber sheet purchased from McMaster-Carr.  Doesn't look as good!

I didn't notice the rear fender until I read the comments.  Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like very little of the rear fender is visible.  Painting it might not be much of a visual gain, but a fun way to make the bike more unique as a minimum.

Looking forward to more impressions.

Thanks for sharing.  Congrats and enjoy!!
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2021, 05:56:59 AM »
Yeah , but what is it in millimeters , and why is this technological miracle allowing for posting this telling me it is spelled

                                                      MILLIMETRES and not millimeters ?
 
 Hmm  :rolleyes:

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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2021, 06:05:53 AM »
I just visited the website.  https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/models/v7/v7-special-850-v-twin-4s-2021/

$249 for a clutch lever!!!  The Harley worshippers are gonna get jealous.

Not painting the rear fender on the silver model was a huge mistake compared to not painting the fender on the blue model.

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Oddly enough, the gallery of photos all feature the blue model and none of the silver.

It will be interesting to see if the modernization of the Guzzi's leads the aftermarket to produce some "Mechanical Charm" (tm) restorers.

It would be easy to produce a little bolt on device that produces some mechanical white noise and a bit of vibration.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2021, 06:04:27 PM »

Did you measure this?   2 of us say 18". 17.5" to the bottom of the shock maybe.
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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2021, 08:38:31 PM »
 :thumb:   :cool:  Just didn't want people getting confused thinking the new V7 had a longer swingarm.   :thumb:
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2021, 09:20:54 PM »
Yeah , but what is it in millimeters , and why is this technological miracle allowing for posting this telling me it is spelled

                                                      MILLIMETRES and not millimeters ?
 
 Hmm  :rolleyes:

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Because it's metric, not metirc.  🙄

Geez, I never noticed the rear fender wasn't painted till this thread.  What are they thinking?

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« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2021, 10:35:25 PM »
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2021, 06:35:27 AM »
Okay, okay.  Geez.  Ill come down and test ride it.  Please stop asking now.   :grin:

Seriously.  Congrats.  Gorgeous ride.  If I had the cash Id take that Roamer off your hands  :thumb:
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« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2021, 08:41:19 AM »
Whats on second.
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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2021, 05:14:17 AM »
I'd been using Slingshot Racing adjustable pegs on my V7 II, yesterday swapped them over to the V7 850 with no problems at all.

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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2021, 08:15:41 AM »
Scientist have discovered that people will believe anything, if you first say "Scientists have discovered...."

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Re: 2021 V7 850
« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2021, 09:01:47 AM »
For those interested, I was poking around to see what accessories are available for the MK4. (V7 850) Although Moto Machines, the US importer, does not have a listing for Hepco Becker the H-B site does. With regard to the H-B brackets that allow the use of the Junior bags, they list a part number of 653556 00 01. That is a different number than the V7III part number. They also list the other pieces such as a rear rack, engine guards, center stand. I did not compare any of those numbers against older V7 models. No doubt as Moto Machines updates their site, MK4 accessories will show up soon.

I figure there might be people wanting to be able to set up a new V7 MK4 as a dedicated tourer and a set of 40L Juniors, (or 30's), would go a long way toward that goal, not to mention setting a trunk on the back. Knowing the stuff is out there might help someone on the fence about getting a new V7 because of this.

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