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V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« on: September 15, 2022, 02:04:57 AM »
Hello,
While waiting for Guzzidiag for V7 850, I bought an UpMap box :
https://www.guareschimoto.it/prodotto/centralina-gcorse-by-upmap-kit-t800-plus-v7-850-e5/
https://store.up-map.it/en/maps/1001-link_rewrite_1307.html
The mapping is done by Guarechi that reassures me.
The use, with smartphone, is simple and fast, invisible and reversible.

Really more pleasure.
Used with "Mistral" exhausts and their "DB Killer", this mapping eliminates engine hesitation at low revs.
The engine is even more pleasant, more flexible, from the lowest revs.
Operation is smoother, throttle response is better, always constant.
Beyond 4000 rpm I did not notice any change, but the engine was already working very well.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2022, 02:05:35 AM by chrisfer »
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2022, 06:08:50 AM »
Hello,
While waiting for Guzzidiag for V7 850, I bought an UpMap box :
https://www.guareschimoto.it/prodotto/centralina-gcorse-by-upmap-kit-t800-plus-v7-850-e5/
https://store.up-map.it/en/maps/1001-link_rewrite_1307.html
The mapping is done by Guarechi that reassures me.
The use, with smartphone, is simple and fast, invisible and reversible.

Really more pleasure.
Used with "Mistral" exhausts and their "DB Killer", this mapping eliminates engine hesitation at low revs.
The engine is even more pleasant, more flexible, from the lowest revs.
Operation is smoother, throttle response is better, always constant.
Beyond 4000 rpm I did not notice any change, but the engine was already working very well.

I have the same - Mistral's with db inserted. I will see how things are after my 10K service.  Keep updates coming.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2022, 01:16:55 PM »
Thanks for posting. I also have fitted Mistral exhausts on my 850 Special. I’m seriously considering getting UpMap, so the link is very useful. Merci bien.👍

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2022, 09:02:23 PM »
I have the Upmap as well. Running the aftermarket exhaust with db killers map and agostini mufflers. Happy with the result, runs much better than it did with the stock map.

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2022, 09:02:23 PM »

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2022, 03:34:38 AM »
Good to hear. Mine should be here early next week.🤞

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2022, 07:22:58 AM »
Arrived and installed. Can only reiterate earlier comments. I do have a question though: is it true that if you download the original (ie OEM) map for your bike (defined by its VIN, which you have to input as part of the process), do you get the one it came with from the factory or the latest release for that model? Although it’s good that the original map can be re-installed, it would be better if it were the latest version. For example, my Special was registered in June 2021. Since then there have been two map updates of which I am aware - one in June 2021 (which mine may or may not have) and one in April this year. So, if one has had one’s bike dealer serviced and has the latest map, it would be a retrograde step to revert to an earlier one. Anyone know for sure? There is no reference to the map number/date in the App.

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2022, 09:05:38 AM »
You can ask where you buy it (Guareschi ?).
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2022, 12:34:34 PM »
Only if they speak English…..😊 Yes, that’s where I bought it.

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2022, 01:02:57 PM »
Only if they speak English…..😊 Yes, that’s where I bought it.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2022, 08:47:35 PM »
Thanks for posting this. I think I will invest in an upmap device in a month or two.

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2022, 07:21:24 AM »
by email
You’d think, but every email I got from them re the purchase etc of the device was in Italian, even though I had posted details, including location (UK). Might be worth a try though…..

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2022, 03:59:14 AM »
Yes, send a email and tell us, if you do not have an answer I will provide you with another email.

That said, the interest in going back to the original mapping seems to me quite weak.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2022, 08:39:03 AM »
Unless something adverse happens using the UpMap map (unlikely) I won't revert to the original map, but as my bike is under warranty I'd like to be able to revert to whatever set-up with the OEM map it is supposed to have before letting the dealer have it in for rectification, should the need arise, so that any claim does not get voided because I'm blamed for re-mapping the ECU. TBH I can't be bothered finding out; I just thought I'd seen a post stating that the download was the latest map.

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2022, 10:25:07 AM »
You’d think, but every email I got from them re the purchase etc of the device was in Italian, even though I had posted details, including location (UK). Might be worth a try though…..

I got emails from Simone in perfect English.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2022, 09:28:42 AM »
Email sent. I’ll post the reply.

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2022, 11:04:07 PM »
Has anyone tried this product for the V7III series?  Seems like a cool deal...
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2022, 03:46:32 AM »
Has anyone tried this product for the V7III series?  Seems like a cool deal...

Check website for compatibility.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2022, 10:33:17 PM »
Check website for compatibility.

Yes, they have a product, but no one answered my email inquiry.  I asked if it was compatible with US versions of the V7 III E4

https://www.guareschimoto.it/en/prodotto/centralina-gcorse-by-upmap-kit-t800-plus-v7-iii-e4/

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2022, 07:59:03 AM »
I just emailed them about a kit for a E4 v9.   I received an answer in 12 hours.  She told me they don’t yet.   But didn’t give any anticipated time line.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2022, 08:38:46 AM »
I just emailed them about a kit for a E4 v9.   I received an answer in 12 hours.  She told me they don’t yet.   But didn’t give any anticipated time line.

Did you email them via the contact form on their website?

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2022, 09:30:16 AM »
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2022, 11:43:31 AM »
Here is one direct to mfg.-------------------------------------

https://www.up-map.it/en/contact-us/

Todd over at GT site sells this product.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2022, 06:58:25 PM »
Ordered it up!  This should be a fun little winter project.

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2023, 08:31:15 PM »
Arrived!  A little bit of a story.  I went through the reflash process using the UpMap app and hit a bit of a snag...none of the coupon codes from GuareschiMoto worked for the one free map with the purchase of the interface unit.  In a panic, I paid full price ($700) and the reflash went smooth.  However, I was not happy with my "$700 order"....so I emailed them, and UpMap promptly refunded me with proof of purchase of the interface unit, but them they went one step further.  They asked if I had the full racing kit installed on my V7III Carbon Shine, in which I said, no, just the air filter top cover elimination kit, sprint filter, and Agostini exhaust with DB-killers removed.  Their reply was, "this other map would be more suitable for your configuration, we have added it to the app on your phone, no charge."   Wow, how cool is that!  This was a UpMap map I could not find for sale anywhere.  So now I am stoked to check out the race map already installed on the bike and the new one they added after! 

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2023, 02:50:00 AM »
The bike I’m looking at (possibly purchasing) today (2021 v7 Centenario) has the agnostini exhaust and been re flashed using an “upmap device”.  This will be a learning experience for me as I’ve never “flashed” a bike before or even understand it.  Stock exhaust is included with the sale along with an upmap device in case I want to bring it back to stock.  Should be interesting.
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2023, 04:00:37 AM »
It should be fine; I did the same with my Special, albeit with Mistral exhausts. It improved the lower half power significantly. If you do find the exhaust sound not to your liking you can refit the originals and re-install the OEM map as long as the seller transfers ownership of the UpMap device to you via their website. TBH as long as the correct map was used for the exhausts fitted it should be great. It should have either EU or US map (depending where you are - they are not inter-changeable) and be either for aftermarket exhaust with baffles, or without, depending on whether or not the baffles are in place. I was pleasantly surprised at how much better the engine pulled on mine and, were I to buy another, I’d do the same mod again.

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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2023, 04:45:46 AM »
If you do find the exhaust sound not to your liking you can refit the originals and re-install the OEM map as long as the seller transfers ownership of the UpMap device to you via their website.

Thank you for the info. 
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2023, 10:19:31 AM »
I’m glad for this but honestly shouldn’t Guzzi have a map for this?! :violent1:

I’m still under warranty and I’m living with mine by turning the throttle with more gusto but still...it does seem to be getting better. Is that even possible or just me?

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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2023, 06:45:59 AM »
The bike I’m looking at (possibly purchasing) today (2021 v7 Centenario) has the agnostini exhaust and been re flashed using an “upmap device”.  This will be a learning experience for me as I’ve never “flashed” a bike before or even understand it.  Stock exhaust is included with the sale along with an upmap device in case I want to bring it back to stock.  Should be interesting.

Personally I find my Centenario runs better with the Upmap map. There was an improvement with the Guzzi upgraded map that 90% (my feeling) resolved the "hole" at 3 - 3,500rpm but the upmap has completely cured and improved pull (again my feeling) throughout the rev range.

I have Mistrals installed
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Re: V7 850 - New custom map - UpMap
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2023, 02:49:25 AM »
There's a firmware upgrade & map update available for existing owners of the upmap & V7 850. If anything the Centenario now pulls even better than with the original version of the Upmap map. There's no email notification regarding the updates you just have to plug in the upmap and turn on the app.  10 minutes tops start to finish.
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