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200K Tires
SmithSwede:
--- Quote from: guzziart on July 30, 2021, 05:44:02 AM ---A No Mar tire changer very quickly pays for itself
Well, I'm having a heck of a time trying to get there. I haven't had a problem demounting but mounting is a different story.
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I basically follow the No Mar instructions but learned two important tricks.
It is vastly easier to work with a tire if it is plenty hot. I leave mine out in the Texas summer sun for a few hours. Or in the winter, I’ll put them over a hot car engine with a blanket on top to let the heat soak in.
Second, I’ve got 3 of those long ratchet style wood clamps you use for holding wood together to glue. I use these to squish the two beads together on the opposite side from where I’m working. That makes it easy to force the far side of the tire into the drop center, which is how you get the clearance to mount the tire on the bead seat.
Sometimes I’ll also use a few short tire irons in addition to the No Mar bar. The key is never to force it—it should go on with only moderate persuasion, otherwise you aren’t doing something right
Perazzimx14:
I have changed several hundred tars for myself and friends. The NoMar had paid for itself many times over. It is the only tool in my garage that has actually paid for itself and now makes beer. Two years ago I quit charging buddy's for tar changes. Now after I change them a day or two later a case or two of beer is sitting outside the garage.
I did buy 3 HF motorcycle tire changers on closeout a month or so back. The plan is to rig up a duckbill mount/dismount set up and a few other mods then give them to some friends that live too far away for me to easily change their tars.
Antietam Classic Cycle:
--- Quote from: guzziart on July 30, 2021, 05:44:02 AM ---A No Mar tire changer very quickly pays for itself
Well, I'm having a heck of a time trying to get there. I haven't had a problem demounting but mounting is a different story. Between technique, lube & getting the tire in the well of the wheel has not yielded the desired mounting results that I thought would be ezpz. After more than a decade of using a Coats changer at a multi brand mc dealer, I thought the NoMar was an inexpensive option for my small assortment of personal rides but now think I should have spent twice as much for a Derek Weaver set up, etc. I've watched the NoMar vids over and over to attempt to determine what I'm not doing correctly. Maybe one of these days something will click in my brain so I can begin fully utilizing my NoMar. I plan on dragging it out of the corner of the garage in September to do a couple of wheels, I'll wish myself good luck. The demo at the '19 bike show in CLE made it look so incredibly easy so I bought one. Oh well. :sad:
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I tried a friend's No-Mar on a pair of (tubed) Guzzi wheels once and it was less than easy for me. My brother bought a Coats 200 Cycler for me in NC on one of his road trips for $360 and from the start I found it much easier to use. Super easy on tubeless of course. It too has more than paid for itself - at last count we have changed 72 tires.
PJPR01:
I hope you take those tires to a tire place to recycle them rather than throw them in the dump where they'll stay for eternity!
guzziart:
--- Quote from: SmithSwede on July 30, 2021, 12:40:20 PM ---I basically follow the No Mar instructions but learned two important tricks.
It is vastly easier to work with a tire if it is plenty hot. I leave mine out in the Texas summer sun for a few hours. Or in the winter, I’ll put them over a hot car engine with a blanket on top to let the heat soak in.
Second, I’ve got 3 of those long ratchet style wood clamps you use for holding wood together to glue. I use these to squish the two beads together on the opposite side from where I’m working. That makes it easy to force the far side of the tire into the drop center, which is how you get the clearance to mount the tire on the bead seat.
Sometimes I’ll also use a few short tire irons in addition to the No Mar bar. The key is never to force it—it should go on with only moderate persuasion, otherwise you aren’t doing something right
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Thanks for the advice! I haven't given up yet, I'll give it another go in sept/oct possibly.
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