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Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« on: July 06, 2019, 09:15:02 AM »
Hi Folks,

Breaking in my new Milano and since my closest dealer has dropped the brand my nearest dealer is 5 hours away.  I've studies the tutorials on adjusting the valves on the V7III and am going to tackle the job myself.  I think it would be mighty convenient to have a rear wheel stand, I hear Pitbull makes a good one, but not for the V7III?  Anyone recommend something that works for them?

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2019, 09:17:35 AM »
How about a center stand, I think Guzzi and Hepco Becker make one?

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2019, 09:21:34 AM »
I use this stand.  It is a nice one.  Very easy to use.  But a centerstand would be a good way to go also.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2019, 09:49:45 AM »
I had the same question a short time ago....V7III due for it's first service.  I went with this stand from Amazon.  There are a couple lugs under the bike where a center stand would attach, and this stand adjusts to use them.  Someday, you're going to want to change the front tire, and having the bike supported in the center will be better than support under the swing arm.   

It's just a little fussy getting it under there the first time, but works great, and you can't beat the price. 
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2019, 09:49:45 AM »

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2019, 10:01:56 AM »
How about a center stand, I think Guzzi and Hepco Becker make one?

Thinking about a center stand but can't make myself spend well over $300 for one. Pit Bull makes one for around $200. Given the (hopefully) few times I'll use a center stand will probably go with the Amazon unit for $40
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2019, 10:29:21 AM »
Thinking about a center stand but can't make myself spend well over $300 for one. Pit Bull makes one for around $200. Given the (hopefully) few times I'll use a center stand will probably go with the Amazon unit for $40

Took a closer look at the Stein-Dinse Workshop Stand at MG Cycle and ordered one. Not having to fuss with the Amazon scissors jack AND getting the front week lift is worth the extra $60.


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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2019, 11:22:39 AM »
Took a closer look at the Stein-Dinse Workshop Stand at MG Cycle and ordered one. Not having to fuss with the Amazon scissors jack AND getting the front week lift is worth the extra $60.




I agree for $112 plus shipping it is a slick bit of kit.  I really like mine. 
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2019, 11:26:08 AM »
I put the front wheel in a chock and use a scissor jack to raise the rear tire. 
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2019, 02:18:52 PM »
me, too.
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2019, 02:31:46 PM »
I put the front wheel in a chock and use a scissor jack to raise the rear tire.

How do you raise the front? I've used scissor jacks in the past but find them unstable at best. Used two tie-downs hooked to the ceiling joist to stabilize things but still iffy.
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2019, 04:20:43 PM »
the III has the charcoal canister right were that mgcycles lift fits ... so you need to either get rid of that or move it temporarily.  Not a big deal but just something to be aware of. 
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2019, 04:29:12 PM »
When fitting the center stand, the canister has to be relocated slightly.  Agreed, no big deal.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2019, 04:45:15 PM »
How do you raise the front? I've used scissor jacks in the past but find them unstable at best. Used two tie-downs hooked to the ceiling joist to stabilize things but still iffy.

Haven't needed to lift the front yet, but will see if my HF motorcycle lift will lift the whole bike via the frame/engine when the time comes. 

Mine is that scissor platform jack that was discussed in another thread. 
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2019, 05:45:18 PM »
Haven't needed to lift the front yet, but will see if my HF motorcycle lift will lift the whole bike via the frame/engine when the time comes. 

Mine is that scissor platform jack that was discussed in another thread.

There's no flat surface under the bike to use a scissor jack.  Or if there is a small surface available, I would be concerned about it's stability.  I tried with my scissor jack before I purchased the stand.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2019, 08:36:37 PM »
Thank you all for the fast and helpful replies.  My Milano had some type of vapor lock sitting in the sun here and wouldn't start.  I removed the canister and associated check valve and never a problem since.  I love a center stand but I think it would be more challenging for me to install than just buying a remote stand.  Dave, I think I will purchase the one you suggest at MG Cycle...thanks!

Now for that valve adjustment...

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2019, 09:11:32 PM »
I made a shallow wooden trough to fit the many angles of the sump on the 3 series and use a large scissor jack. With the frt. wheel (axle as the pivot point), clamped in the lift there is a very short lever arm to raise the entire back end. I'm concerned for the strength of the sump casting. Especially if the load is borne by a small area. The Stein-Dinse looks to be a more safe solution . . and perhaps it will work on other brands/models.  R3~

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2019, 10:23:00 AM »
A V7III can do a wheel stand????   I guess they really did improve the torque.
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2019, 11:37:07 AM »
There's no flat surface under the bike to use a scissor jack.  Or if there is a small surface available, I would be concerned about it's stability.  I tried with my scissor jack before I purchased the stand.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2019, 03:47:12 PM »
Yeah, I've got one of those stands too (actually two), but where do you aim the stand so those cups are connected to something strong and able to take the weight of the bike?

There's no way to set them up on the frame rail, unless you remove the pipes and mufflers first.  A bit of an ordeal if all you want to do is clean the rear wheel.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2019, 12:06:05 AM »
Blocks of wood help.  I'd use a bike lift.  More stability.  You could also use a roller stand for cleaning and setting your valves.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2019, 08:16:43 AM »
Yeah, I've got one of those stands too (actually two), but where do you aim the stand so those cups are connected to something strong and able to take the weight of the bike?

There's no way to set them up on the frame rail, unless you remove the pipes and mufflers first.  A bit of an ordeal if all you want to do is clean the rear wheel.

I wish I had taken photos, but I believe I put them where the center stand would mount to. 
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2019, 03:13:24 PM »
If ya have a HF lift raising the front is EZ either using the center stand or a over center type racing stand in the center of the bike . Once you’ve raised the center I use a ratchet type tie down & either go over luggage rack or very rear of seat just pull rear down & front goes up! It’s way more stable than lifting the front as you are pulling the bike into the lift .

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2019, 03:17:44 PM »
Oops almost forgot no lift no problem . Once again raise center of bike , then counter weight rear with heavy stuff ,bags of pellets , coal ,speedy dry, cat litter ,preferably unused,etc.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2019, 06:37:45 PM »
The center stand on my V50II is perfect for easily lifting the rear wheel.  If I need to raise the front wheel - for de-greasing rotors, changing tire, etc - I put a piece of 2x4 wood under the sump and lift with a long-handled auto jack.  Very simple.
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2020, 09:54:32 AM »
Took a closer look at the Stein-Dinse Workshop Stand at MG Cycle and ordered one. Not having to fuss with the Amazon scissors jack AND getting the front week lift is worth the extra $60.





I have a fork kit to install, will this lift provide enough height?

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2020, 11:48:04 AM »

I have a fork kit to install, will this lift provide enough height?

I use this stand and it raises the rear wheel. You'll need to put a block under the engine to get the front off the ground. Worked fine for my front tire change.
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2020, 12:02:27 PM »
If you have one of these motorcycle hoists here's an adapter I made for removing the swing arm, I don't have access to a welder so I bolted it together
A steel one would be much simpler, It must be bolted to the hoist for safety, there were holes pre-drilled in mine.
Its right at the end of the hoist platform, it started out being the same at both ends but I had to trim it back so it clears the side stand switch and wiring.
For steel I would use some 2 x 3/8 flat bar with a couple of cups from 1" ID pipe to fit over the 25mm frame tube.






Mine is just a little bit tall for rolling under the muffler, 4" would be enough, once in place stand the bike up and crank away.
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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2020, 12:57:02 PM »


I'm planning to buy this for my Nevada (now on Saturday). 99euros.




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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2020, 01:34:24 PM »
I also use the harbor freight atv jack, I made a wooden cradle that sits on top of the jack and is registered to the top rails of the jack, to pick up the bike center stand mounts and centre the sump on the jack so it's always balanced at the same point. I can take the bike totally apart all the way to lifting the frame off.

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Re: Rear wheel stand for V7III?
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2020, 01:48:27 PM »

I have a fork kit to install, will this lift provide enough height?

Yes, the SD stand comes with a prop to put under the engine block. Puts the front wheel in the air a couple of inches or so - plenty of room to remove the wheel & take the forks out.
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