Sport 1100 Pricing

[Kristian]

While they're rare enough that it is a smidge difficult to establish firm pricing, what do you think a 4.2K-mile, bone-stock, '95 Sport 1100 is worth?

Kristian

[Lumpy Idle]

between $4k-$5.5K depending. low mileage is a nice bonus.

[rocker59]

I concur.  $3500 - $5500 depending on condition.

The low miles is OK, but poor cosmetics would keep it at the bottom of the price range.

And honestly, I'd rather buy a bike with the right upgrades.  Things like a Staintune exhaust and Kehin FCR carbs make the bikes run better, and I'd be willing to pay for that. 

In "bone-stock" form, the USA Carb Sports needed some tweaking to run right.  The jetting was off and they breath much better with a nice crossover in the exhaust.

[Lumpy Idle]

I concur.  $3500 - $5500 depending on condition...

i suspect that this will get a bump during the upcoming riding season.  a couple of reasons; medicandy has herded the available inventory into his garage - scarcity bumps prices, and the renewed interest in daytonas and their costiness will reflect  to their poorer cousins the sport 1100 models. IMO the sport 1100's are undervalued. this will change and i'm not just saying that because i plan to put mine up on the market in a month or so.

[Kristian]

Where have you guys seen prices like that on near mint Sports? I'm not talking about bikes folks call "mint," meaning they have no major damage, but are otherwise unwashed for the last several years, as is common. Seen it too often.

The last one on Ebay sold early last fall for $6,200, a really nice black one; though a mint 1,400-miler just failed to sell at $8,900, which was too much.

I have one available locally in good condition but with 60K+ miles for $4,300. That's the cheapest I've seen in a while.

The one I'm looking at is $7K; too much.

Kristian

[LowRyter]

It doesn't seem like any generation of spineframe Guzzi is getting any cheaper now.  They're not making any more and it looks like they've all hit bottom price already.  Owners are going through all kinds hoops to keep them running and improving them.  They are an enjoyable and good looking motorcycle.

Just my observation and opinion. 

[sdcr]

This....
I know I am probably in the minority here, but I believe that some day, both the injected and carb Sport 1100' s will start to appreciate in value. I don't disagree, that current market prices are as low as $3500.
I've had both carb and injected Sports, and they are superb motorcycles, IMHO.

It doesn't seem like any generation of spineframe Guzzi is getting any cheaper now.  They're not making any more and it looks like they've all hit bottom price already.  Owners are going through all kinds hoops to keep them running and improving them.  They are enjoyable and good looking motorcycle.

Justy my observation and opinion.

[Guzzidad]

   I bought my 96 Sport in 98 with 3500 miles on it for $6400. I put the next 121,000 miles on it until I parked it in 2006. It's a little dusty now but cosmetically nearly perfect. Now that I'm retired I plan to freshen her up and let her breathe again. No argument that the modern bikes are just SO much better, but no bike I've had since then has matched the feeling I had riding Gina.
   I absolutely love riding my 01 EV and my 2012 Norge. And I put well over 100,000 miles on an 04 Triumph Tiger and 45,000 miles on a Buell Ulysses, But that 96 Sport is still my favorite bike of all time. It would take a rediculous amount of money for me to sign the title over.

[arveno]

there is a Daytona for sale in the classified for 8500 .

just saying............. .........

The last 1100 sport silver sold in PA for 5 k and had a full staintune exhaust .

Anyway , why are you asking ? If you like it and it is in your price range buy it.

A good deal is when seller and buyer are both happy , otherwise is not a good deal.

[MedicAndy]

Where have you guys seen prices like that on near mint Sports? I'm not talking about bikes folks call "mint," meaning they have no major damage, but are otherwise unwashed for the last several years, as is common. Seen it too often.

The last one on Ebay sold early last fall for $6,200, a really nice black one; though a mint 1,400-miler just failed to sell at $8,900, which was too much.

I wanted to buy the 1.4k miles eBay bike two weeks ago, but I don't think that the owner really wanted to sell this bike. This was the one bike color that I have missing in my collection, so I offered the seller $7.5k, assuming that he would counter, which he didn't. He just said "nope". I was going to up my offer to $8k, under the stipulation that I was going to talk to the owner on the phone first, but he refused, with him telling me that I could ask all questions in writing. I attempted to tell the owner that this bike will need some work, like: replacing of the original tires, a Will Creedon chip, a good tuning, all new filters and seals, and a couple of other small things, but he just came back with "I'm a BMW Master Mechanic", this bike rides great and needs nothing but new tires. He also stated four times to me in writing that "I don't need to sell this bike, and my asking price shows this".

So, I thought that I was stepping up to the plate at $8k, especially looking at another $1k to get this bike shipped to my home, and then another $1k to get her setup and sorted out. So I was going to be into this bike for $10k total. Maybe a little much for a stock bike without having a nice exhaust, but this is still a really low milage, maybe the lowest milage 1100 Sport left out there. I valued this bike right inline with my ex-museum bike, but my bike has the upgraded exhaust, Creedon Chip, polished aluminum, and it came fully serviced and tuned by Moto Motivo.

And for the future value of these bikes, I do believe that they will eventually go up in value. How much, maybe to around $8k to $10k for a nice bike? Also, $10k is a lot of money for spending on an older bike, especially if for instance a new Honda African Twin can be bought for only a couple of $$ more. So I foresee that most of the 1100 Sports will end up in private collections within the next ten years, so they will become harder and harder to find or buy as time goes by.

But, those are just my thoughts. I'm buying the 1100's because I like to ride and look at them, they are my hobby. I'm not buying them as an investment, since I will never sell them.

So, as always, please let me know of any 1100's out there for sale! :) I'm looking to buy me many more...... :)




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[arveno]

https://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/d/rare-1997-moto-guzzi-1100/6526670334.html

 

[MedicAndy]

there is a Daytona for sale in the classified for 8500 .

just saying............. .........

The last 1100 sport silver sold in PA for 5 k and had a full staintune exhaust .

The PA bike had 58k miles on the clock, and it did sell for almost the total asking price, which shows that there are people out there who are starting to pay higher prices for these bikes. I am someone who likes to buy low milage bikes, it's just my thing. I do however now wish that I would have bought the PA bike, if only to strip the Staintune exhaust and Keihin carbs from the bike, then to re-install stock parts, and then to sell this bike again for maybe $3.5k or a little more.

Next time! I paid $3.5k for my silver 11.2k miles 1996 1100, so it's hard for me to pay higher prices for bikes with 5X the milage, buy I'm realizing now that the 1100's are getting more costly now.

This is my silver 1996 Spot



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[MedicAndy]

https://nashville.craigslist.org/mcy/d/rare-1997-moto-guzzi-1100/6526670334.html

 

:) I talked o this guy too, and this is also a great stock bike, but I already have two yellow 1997's, so $10k to $11k in total for shipping and getting this bike setup and sorted is a little steep for me. But, I would may think different if I didn't have a couple of yellow 1100's already.

Thanks for posting the info!






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[Devildog]

I don't believe there will be any more $5k super condition low mileage Sports in the future, $7k will be the new baseline. Again just my opinion.

[MedicAndy]

I don't believe there will be any more $5k super condition low mileage Sports in the future, $7k will be the new baseline. Again just my opinion.

I fully agree with your starting cost of a nice lower milage 1100. I walked away from two low cost 97's two years ago, what a mistake...... I should have bought those bikes as future projects, or even just as donor bikes.......

But, no crying over mist 1100 buys!

[Kristian]

I don't believe there will be any more $5k super condition low mileage Sports in the future, $7k will be the new baseline. Again just my opinion.

Lovely.

Well, that's what my seller wants for his 4K-miler, though it needs a couple of smaller things.

[rocker59]

I'm glad to see some interest in these bikes.  The recent higher sales prices are a new thing, and I hope it's not just some fluke.

A few years ago, when thinking of thinning my herd, I offered my well-equipped Sport 1100 at $4,000 with not one inquiry.

$2500 exhaust, $1000 carbs, $800 front brakes.  Spare set of OEM wheels.  Not one inquiry.

Times change.

[Tusayan]

With prices in the range being discussed here, I would not hesitate spend $1K or even $2K more to get a pristine, low mileage bike with valuable accessories. 

As with anything nice that's bottomed out in value, buy the best you can find because it won't cost much more than a rough example. 

[Devildog]

I agree with Andy, the owner of the black Sporti in SF was testing the waters, not a serious seller. If Andy was willing to pay $8k, that was a generous offer. The seller had a lovely LeMans II priced at $9500, again not a serious price, but maybe in a few years?
If you wanted to collect Italian sport bikes and Ducati prices gave you sticker shock, a $7k Sport would look like a bargain.

[MedicAndy]

there is a Daytona for sale in the classified for 8500 .

just saying............. .........

Please copy a link to this classified section. I like to see if this Daytona for $8.5k asking is either: Wrecked, a scam, has 100k miles on the clock, for sale in South America, or has a salvage title, since I can't see someone selling a Daytona today for a giveaway price.

Andy

[Nic in Western NYS]

Please copy a link to this classified section. I like to see if this Daytona for $8.5k asking is either: Wrecked, a scam, has 100k miles on the clock, for sale in South America, or has a salvage title, since I can't see someone selling a Daytona today for a giveaway price.

Andy

All it takes is one or two very motivated buyers to move a market that's so thin.  If those buyers evaporate...

[LowRyter]

even the later V11 models have appeared to hit bottom a couple of years ago

[rocker59]

Please copy a link to this classified section. I like to see if this Daytona for $8.5k asking is either: Wrecked, a scam, has 100k miles on the clock, for sale in South America, or has a salvage title, since I can't see someone selling a Daytona today for a giveaway price.

Andy

d00d.  Seriously?

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=94917.0

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=94918.msg1502367#msg1502367

 

[MedicAndy]

d00d.  Seriously?

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=94917.0

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=94918.msg1502367#msg1502367

My bad, I did not see the listing! However, not even a single picture, besides stating pristine condition with the 26k miles, is given. I don't know much about Daytonas, but I just looked at some resent sales, and they go for about $10k - $11k for a lower milage, less than 10k miles bike in pristine condition. So my earlier remark about salvage title, scam,...... were very wrong. This bike is probably worth it's $8.5k asking price with 26k miles on the clock. I called and left a message to Larry about wanting to see some pictures and get some better details about this bike. So, lets wait and see if something comes of it.

Thanks,

Andy

[arveno]

My bad, I did not see the listing! However, not even a single picture, besides stating pristine condition with the 26k miles, is given. I don't know much about Daytonas, but I just looked at some resent sales, and they go for about $10k - $11k for a lower milage, less than 10k miles bike in pristine condition. So my earlier remark about salvage title, scam,...... were very wrong. This bike is probably worth it's $8.5k asking price with 26k miles on the clock. I called and left a message to Larry about wanting to see some pictures and get some better details about this bike. So, lets wait and see if something comes of it.

Thanks,

Andy

Hey ,

The owner is an old school man not an internet freak so no pics available , as the ad says .

There is a location and a phone # , call .

ciao

no scam here on wilguzzi , have some respect for the old generation......


Bike is perfect w/lots of extras on it. 26Kmi  $8500
For more info call Larry Cecil  630 837 2670
He is the second owner. I also knew the 1st owner, been maintained & very nice. Medical issues w/his knees is the only reason for sale.

In Bartlet, IL        It spent 1/2 it's life in KS  It was Earl's, if you know him from the rallies.
You won't see it listed on the internet anywhere, he's analog. His wife is supposed to be taking pics soon.

[rocker59]

My bad, 

No worries.  guzzisteve is a longtime member and wouldn't steer us wrong.  1,000 miles per year, so it shouldn't be shagged.  If the cosmetics are decent, it's a pretty good price for a Daytona 1000.

Main differences between the Daytona 1000 and Sport 1100 are engine and bodywork.

Airbox in the tail of the Daytona, rather than under the tank.  Daytona 1000s don't have the ram air intakes on the fairing, like the Sport 1100 does.  As I recall, front brakes on the Daytona 1000 are 300mm vs. the later standard 320mm of the Sport 1100.

Chassis-wise, Daytona 1000 and Sport 1100 are the same.

[Kristian]

Main differences between the Daytona 1000 and Sport 1100 are engine and bodywork.

Airbox in the tail of the Daytona, rather than under the tank.  Daytona 1000s don't have the ram air intakes on the fairing, like the Sport 1100 does.  As I recall, front brakes on the Daytona 1000 are 300mm vs. the later standard 320mm of the Sport 1100.

Chassis-wise, Daytona 1000 and Sport 1100 are the same.

A few other things, too: Daytona front engine mount is bolted on; driveshaft does not have grease fittings; and you're dealing with a 25-year old fuel injection system that will need additional care and feeding. Hopefully it's had the oil pump update done, which is a known failure item.

Interestingly, they were no quicker or faster than Sport 1100s, though stock they fuelled a bit better. Identical top speeds (ca. 135 MPH) according to a period review, but slightly slower in the quarter than Sports.

Desperately pretty, though. Really doesn't get any better.

[Tusayan]

An early Daytona or US/CH/NZ spec RS makes about 10-15 HP more than an 1100 Sport.  An RS in rest of the world C-Kit cam spec makes 20-25 HP more than an 1100 Sport.  I’ve owned both Sport and Daytona.  The Daytona is faster and smoother, the Sport feels lighter.

Magazine articles in this era are not a good guide, the bikes (none of them) didn’t run properly out of the crate and had varying degrees of tweaking before the magazines got them for test.

Only the very first few Daytona had no driveshaft grease fittings and IIRC it was a recall item.

[MedicAndy]

A few other things, too: Daytona front engine mount is bolted on; driveshaft does not have grease fittings; and you're dealing with a 25-year old fuel injection system that will need additional care and feeding. Hopefully it's had the oil pump update done, which is a known failure item.




I talked to the seller "Larry" in person a couple of hours ago, and he is a super nice guy! He doesn't know if the oil pump was replaced, and the bike will need new rotors and pads, but that should be it. This bike does look great! I made him an offer, but I have not heard back from him yet. So, lets wait and see! I may go on a road trip next weekend to pick up a Daytona..... I also contacted the owner on another eBay 4.5k miles 1993 Daytona (I like low milage bikes) out of Miami to find out on what his reserve is, but I also have not heard back from him yet either.

[Turin]

This....
I know I am probably in the minority here, but I believe that some day, both the injected and carb Sport 1100' s will start to appreciate in value. I don't disagree, that current market prices are as low as $3500.

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An early Daytona or US/CH/NZ spec RS makes about 10-15 HP more than an 1100 Sport.  An RS in rest of the world C-Kit cam spec makes 20-25 HP more than an 1100 Sport.  I’ve owned both Sport and Daytona.  The Daytona is faster and smoother, the Sport feels lighter.

Magazine articles in this era are not a good guide, the bikes (none of them) didn’t run properly out of the crate and had varying degrees of tweaking before the magazines got them for test.

This is also correct. As delivered, Daytona's in particular are almost a kit bike. A bone Stock Daytona RS or Centauro is almost un-rideable. Once set up properly... yikes!