V100 Mandello Merged Threadfest

[guzziboy66]

https://youtu.be/Y00X5f3PtVU

I like the black painted pipes of the pre-production ones in the videos.
The wheels are beautiful.  The aftermarket is likely to offer wheels for it.
The rear disc brake seems unusally large to me.
The rear brake resevoir is accessible - Thank you MG.
The video linked above insicates an accessory caalog and, if I heard correctly, mentions luggage.

[rocker59]

I don't recall seeing the "front to back" measurement. Shorter means height to me, not length. Maybe I got it wrong too.

As I understand it, the engine/transmission assembly is 4-inches shorter in length than than the V85 small block.

That has allowed a longer swingarm, plus the new transmission has a lower output shaft, allowing a lower swingarm pivot point, doing away with the need for a floating bevel box.

[ToddK]

Thanks gang!

That green looks pretty durn sweet. 💚

[Huzo]

What do the winglets actually do ?
Seems a bit lame to me. I do know one thing for sure, a facelift thread on a V100 would not run nine pages...

[lucky phil]

You guys have to quit guesssing about the prices! They priced the V85 very well but if they get that high on a V1000 it will sell like turds on a hot day.
The Yamaha Tracer 9GT is $149999. They usually have parts and they have a real dealer network and it's a proven product. It might be the best comparisome to the V000 there is.

https://youtu.be/OadAsF5NB6Q

Wow, one hundred and forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine dollars. That is an expensive Yamaha.

Ciao

[lucky phil]

Wasn’t the statement that the V100 was 4” shorter (front to back), not top to bottom ?
I may have mis interpreted the comment.

I read it as shorter front to back which makes sense if you move the gearbox to below the crank centreline as opposed to behind the flywheel.

Ciao

[Griso8V]

I really like the looks of the bike and I am glad that it does not look like an insect...
I am looking forward to checking it out "in person", but it looks very appealing to me from the pictures.   
My prediction cost wise will be between $18K to $20K.  Reality, welcome to the real world...
Tony C

[Huzo]

Wow, one hundred and forty nine thousand nine hundred and ninety nine dollars. That is an expensive Yamaha.

Ciao

Hell yeah..
25% of an M1

[blackcat]

What do the winglets actually do ?
Seems a bit lame to me. I do know one thing for sure, a facelift thread on a V100 would not run nine pages...

Guzzi claims a 22% reduction of wind to the rider and I believe they are triggered by a set speed.

[twowings]

I believe the idea for the winglets is to avoid having to bolt a barn-door size windscreen to an otherwise gorgeous bike (IMHBDHO) by having the winglets divert airflow around the rider at speed?

I could be wrong, my  is certain it happens all the time.

[lucky phil]

I believe the idea for the winglets is to avoid having to bolt a barn-door size windscreen to an otherwise gorgeous bike (IMHBDHO) by having the winglets divert airflow around the rider at speed?

I could be wrong, my  is certain it happens all the time.

I've seen these before when I worked on McDonald Douglas A4G Skyhawks. Deployed from the aft fuselage sides, worked off a switch on the thrust lever but they were called "speed brakes" LOL.

Ciao

[twowings]

As I stated in my post, this observation was rooted In My Brain Dead Hippie Opinon: YMMV

[LongRanger]

Very much looking forward to seeing this bike. I swore off MG’s years ago due to local dealership incompetence and lack of support, but if I can manage to fit on this one (6’6”, 36” inseam), it’ll likely end up in my garage. Beautiful bike.

[twowheeladdict]

Nice video from MotoBob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9t7Z0VVCt8

[kingoffleece]

LoneRanger,
At your size I'd suspect you need to mod almost any motorcycle you own.  Is that correct?  Your miles outside of the standard most OEM's use.

[Bulldog9]

As I understand it, the engine/transmission assembly is 4-inches shorter in length than than the V85 small block.

That has allowed a longer swingarm, plus the new transmission has a lower output shaft, allowing a lower swingarm pivot point, doing away with the need for a floating bevel box.

That's how I am reading it. Looking forward to seeing one in the 'flesh'

[LongRanger]

It depends on the bike. My RT with lowered foot pegs fits like a glove, but other bikes that I’d enjoy owning, like a V7 850, are simply too cramped. And my days of enjoying sport-bike ergos are behind me.

[egschade]

It depends on the bike. My RT with lowered foot pegs fits like a glove, but other bikes that I’d enjoy owning, like a V7 850, are simply too cramped. And my days of enjoying sport-bike ergos are behind me.

I found my V7 III cramped until I put longer shocks and stiffer fork springs in. That improved things considerably but the V85TT is even better. The higher seat height means I need to horse mount it (use the footpeg) because of my back to get my leg over but that's a minor inconvenience.

[ScepticalScotty]

If it was all about spec sheets x cost we'd all be riding around on 4 cylinder Japanese 1000s..... There's a significant proportion of the world wide motorcycle riding population that doesn't give a hoot about the numbers. Look at the sales of Royal Enfield 650s....here in the UK (a very mature and affluent market) they are either the second most, or number one bike over 500cc sold. And the number one is the GS1250 - which itself is not a spec sheet leader by any means.

Maybe the US market is different, but the love of outright power and speed passed a few years ago here, same in mainland Europe.

[LowRyter]

Yes, but BMW's R1250RS makes more torque from just above idle (3,000rpm) than the Guzzi does at maximum (..this rising to 143 Nm / 105 lb-ft  @ 6,250rpm).  Absolute power is higher too: 136hp @ only 7,750rpm.  Unless it's substantially lighter the Guzzi is likely to trail the BMW in the inevitable comparison tests, and because these bikes are pitched at the very same customers, any 'newbies' to the marque could be hard won.

Riding the 1200RS, they do get it.  They approach sportbike power.  But it's also 200cc bigger.  That can give more useable power with little sacrifice other than perhaps lost agility due  to additional weight, stiffness and wider tires to contain the torque.

[jwinwi]

I really like the looks of the bike and I am glad that it does not look like an insect...
I am looking forward to checking it out "in person", but it looks very appealing to me from the pictures.   
My prediction cost wise will be between $18K to $20K.  Reality, welcome to the real world...
Tony C

Yup, the higher-spec Ohlins-suspended version will have an MSRP of at least $19,995.00. Several years ago the MGX21's MSRP was very close to that number and it was not a clean sheet design ($$$).
Hoping that the standard version is a bit less but MG has never been the cheapest - compared to the competition.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

No way in hell it will be $20k+
They wont sell 3 at that price....  I have a deposit down on one already, but that will quickly be withdrawn and turned into a new Speed Twin if the V100 costs that much.

[bad Chad]

A similarly equipped 1250rs is starts north of $22,000, I don’t see Guzzi going there.

[Nick]

15 years ago the MSRP for the Norge was $15K. Yep, 20K for the "premium" V100 could be a possibility 

[bad Chad]

It's possible, but I don't think Guzzi  has the cachet right now to ask that kind of money, and they know it.  Guzzi is not BMW, even if they make a bike that turns out to be better than anything in it field, they still will be somewhat ham strung by their perceived short comings.

[vintage53]

Just to add to Nick's comment,

I believe a 2003 V11 Lemans Rosso Corsa with the Ohlin's' had a MSRP of $ 13,900 +   

??? we shall see. 

[sidecarnutz]

A minor hijack here.  For EICMA Moto Guzzi developed a special version of the V85 for the Cuirassiers of Italy’s Presidential Honor Guard, which presents quite elegantly in black graphics with white accents:




My bad, I saw this was posted earlier.

What happened to its B&W "skunk" seat? ;-) This could be the next California!

[Luap McKeever]

$13,000 in 2003 would be roughly $19,000 today according to my math with compounded and current inflation rates.

[jwinwi]

$13,000 in 2003 would be roughly $19,000 today according to my math with compounded and current inflation rates.

Hmm...

[lucky phil]

$13,000 in 2003 would be roughly $19,000 today according to my math with compounded and current inflation rates.

Minus income tax on interest earned on savings included?

Ciao