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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2021, 08:04:15 AM »
I dont think a V700 will do 80--90mph at all, let alone all day!  I cant get my Ambo over 75, but im a great big ol'boy. It does seem it would run happily at 65mph all day and all night tho
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2021, 10:43:50 AM »
I dont think a V700 will do 80--90mph at all, let alone all day!  I cant get my Ambo over 75, but im a great big ol'boy. It does seem it would run happily at 65mph all day and all night tho

I can take mine to 150km/h without any problems and cruising at 120km/h. A stock V7 Special has a claimed top speed over 100mph (160 km/h).
« Last Edit: November 26, 2021, 01:40:25 PM by Fredrik »
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2021, 07:48:15 PM »
I just wanted to make sure which engine we are talking about. Is this a 700cc or a 750cc? Makes a bit of a difference with gearing and such.

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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2021, 09:56:46 PM »
I know it’s an 850 but most everything else is the same. I bought this and put the nicasil cylinders on it. Took a 2,000 mile trip on it in September. Again it’s the 850 and other then the jugs 100% stock but it did 75-80 mph when needed. I took 2 lane roads as much as I could so we ran along at 55-65 mph all day long. I did put new plugs in it on the trip. I gave it a good tuneup with point gap, timing, plug gaps, valves adjusted and grease and oils before I left.

I would think if the wiring and connections are in good shape and you trust the bike enough your good to go.

I just had to adjust my expectations for daily miles, it is not like my Norge. After I excepted that, I had a ball on the old girl. I’ll do it again next year for sure.




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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2021, 09:56:46 PM »

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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2021, 05:43:36 AM »
I just wanted to make sure which engine we are talking about. Is this a 700cc or a 750cc? Makes a bit of a difference with gearing and such.

Tom

Mine is a 750cc.  :cheesy:
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2021, 07:05:35 AM »
Just do it. Take a few spares (plugs, points etc.) and a good tool kit and ride.  If you do have a little trouble on the way, think of it as part of the adventure.
Modern bikes, with their effortless reliability and performance are just so dull. Enjoy the challenge. Take the V7.

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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2021, 09:16:36 AM »
Just do it. Take a few spares (plugs, points etc.) and a good tool kit and ride.  If you do have a little trouble on the way, think of it as part of the adventure.
Modern bikes, with their effortless reliability and performance are just so dull. Enjoy the challenge. Take the V7.

Nick

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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2021, 02:05:31 PM »
I did a 7500km, cross country trip on my '74 Eldorado in 2017, completely without issue.  That said, I fully restored the bike in 2012, with all new electrics (thank you, Gregory Bender).  Engine is a 949cc, and the bike will readily do over 90mph indicated.  However, sustained riding over 75mph starts pushing oil out of the breather, and I have to watch consumption.  I wouldn't hesitate to do the same trip again today. 

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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2021, 03:02:54 PM »
I bought a new-to-me 2013 Griso a week before a rally. 7K miles on the clock. The rally was three states away so I rode my '75 Eldorado because -- reliability!
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2021, 09:34:09 AM »
A few years ago I rebuilt a 850T and rode it from Stockholm to the factory in Mandello with some friends.
Finished the build the evening before we left. The test ride was from the garage to my home and back for some sleep.
Re-torqued the heads, checked fluids and off we went. Did the first change of oil in France. Kind of stupid but had no problems whatsoever.
Did the same trip a year later. Clutch cable snapped in Germany on the way home, apart from that no problems.
I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again.
Also, stop by for a cup of coffee in Stockholm!

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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2021, 09:37:14 AM »
A few years ago I rebuilt a 850T and rode it from Stockholm to the factory in Mandello with some friends.
Finished the build the evening before we left. The test ride was from the garage to my home and back for some sleep.
Re-torqued the heads, checked fluids and off we went. Did the first change of oil in France. Kind of stupid but had no problems whatsoever.
Did the same trip a year later. Clutch cable snapped in Germany on the way home, apart from that no problems.
I wouldn’t hesitate to do it again.
Also, stop by for a cup of coffee in Stockholm!

Great to know i have back-up in Stockholm if needed. Thanks!  :cheesy:
« Last Edit: November 30, 2021, 10:10:23 AM by Fredrik »
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2021, 09:57:37 AM »
Great to know i have back-up in Stockholm if needed. Tanks!  :cheesy:

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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2021, 12:38:49 PM »
Generally very reliable - some one else mentioned electrics, and I would agree. IMHO the wiring harness is way too complex....   If you're on the original starter relay - replace it. Other weak spots on the V7's are the seals in the bell housing (engine and Tranny), the clutch cable and the U Joint. One more - as the bike is 50yrs old - if you've not done so replace the wheel bearings all round. The BEST thing a disintegrating bearing will do is leave you stranded. The worst.....will leave you personally with no future problems...at all.....ever...  :shocked:
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2021, 01:07:00 PM »
Generally very reliable - some one else mentioned electrics, and I would agree. IMHO the wiring harness is way too complex....   If you're on the original starter relay - replace it. Other weak spots on the V7's are the seals in the bell housing (engine and Tranny), the clutch cable and the U Joint. One more - as the bike is 50yrs old - if you've not done so replace the wheel bearings all round. The BEST thing a disintegrating bearing will do is leave you stranded. The worst.....will leave you personally with no future problems...at all.....ever...  :shocked:

Sorry, but I don't agree with some of this. The original (non-police) Loopframe wiring is about the most simple and easy to understand of any motorcycle ever. Adding relays for the headlight and horn is a good idea. 

The clutch cable is no more prone to failure than on any other Guzzi and on a 4 spd. Loop is very easy replace. Use a good quality cable such as those made by Barnett and keep the hand lever and barrel fitting that goes into it greased and moving freely. Barnett also makes the best quality brake cables. 

Yes, the u-joint is smaller on drum-brake Guzzis than on disk-brake Guzzis, but can last a very long time unless the bike is ridden heavily loaded, has performance modifications, or the rider abuses it. My '69 with 111k miles still has the original u-joint.

Same with the wheel bearings. They are an uncommon sized tapered roller bearing, not readily available at bearing suppliers. Aftermarket replacements of unknown origin are available, and Peters Bearings in Germany may have new old stock. Fortunately, if kept greased and shimmed properly they will outlast the rest of the bike. I cleaned and repacked mine when I replaced the tires last time - at 105k miles they still looked nearly new. In the 15 years I've been wrenching on old Guzzis professionally, I have yet to see a bad one of these wheel bearings. More suspect would be steering head, swingarm pivot and u-joint carrier bearings. 
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2021, 03:53:27 PM »
Sorry, but I don't agree with some of this. The original (non-police) Loopframe wiring is about the most simple and easy to understand of any motorcycle ever. Adding relays for the headlight and horn is a good idea. 

The clutch cable is no more prone to failure than on any other Guzzi and on a 4 spd. Loop is very easy replace. Use a good quality cable such as those made by Barnett and keep the hand lever and barrel fitting that goes into it greased and moving freely. Barnett also makes the best quality brake cables. 

Yes, the u-joint is smaller on drum-brake Guzzis than on disk-brake Guzzis, but can last a very long time unless the bike is ridden heavily loaded, has performance modifications, or the rider abuses it. My '69 with 111k miles still has the original u-joint.

Same with the wheel bearings. They are an uncommon sized tapered roller bearing, not readily available at bearing suppliers. Aftermarket replacements of unknown origin are available, and Peters Bearings in Germany may have new old stock. Fortunately, if kept greased and shimmed properly they will outlast the rest of the bike. I cleaned and repacked mine when I replaced the tires last time - at 105k miles they still looked nearly new. In the 15 years I've been wrenching on old Guzzis professionally, I have yet to see a bad one of these wheel bearings. More suspect would be steering head, swingarm pivot and u-joint carrier bearings.

Alot of great info, thanks.  :azn:
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Re: V7 Special -1971 touring reliability
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2021, 10:25:12 AM »
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Just do it. Take a few spares (plugs, points etc.) and a good tool kit and ride.  If you do have a little trouble on the way, think of it as part of the adventure.
Modern bikes, with their effortless reliability and performance are just so dull. Enjoy the challenge. Take the V7.

Nick

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