Why all the V85TT’s for sale?

[willowstreetguzziguy]

Well, that happened fast! Surprised so many V85TT’s listed for sale! What’s the problem… what’s not to like?

 Many have been farkled out which tells me they were trying hard to like them and make them their own.
Always surprised when riders spend lots of money on accessorizing a new bike only to turn around and sell it. It happens with car owners too. Any thoughts?

[OldMojo]

Shiny object syndrome - there's a Centenario to be had, or heaven forbid, a Panamerica!

[Dirk_S]

Shiny object syndrome - there's a Centenario to be had, or heaven forbid, a Panamerica!

Agreed. The desire to customize is not always borne out of necessity, but sometimes boredom or just an abundance of $$$

[Caffeineo]

Unfortunately I do not suffer from too much $$$$$. But just enough to get a new bike about every 1 - 1  1/2 years and find myself creating a reason that the bike I lusted after just is not the best fit for what I want now. I will most likely picking up one of those V85's and hopefully keeping it.

I blame this site as the main contributor to my "problem". I will read about others love of their new bike and find myself wanting one too.   
Everything I have read about the V85's has been good but there seems to be a little electrical gremlin causing a wandering/rough idle when cold. No real deal breakers but many may get the miles and need to get a valve check and then realize the dealer is farther than they want to go for this every 5K miles or so. Just a guess.

[ratguzzi]

I got me the one from northwest Arkansas. I pick it up in a week or so.
JB

[twowheeladdict]

I typically buy a bike every year, but tend to keep bikes 3 to 6 years. For me bikes are experiences and not possessions.

Right now I can’t see parting with the V7III or the Van Van. I’m not done experiencing the Road Glide, and have just started experiencing the KLX300SM.

I finished experiencing the Himalayan, but I think it will go on my list of regrets but it was the one to go in order to get the KLX300SM. The used market was ripe and it sold for $800 less than I bought it for 6000 miles of experiences ago.

[Guzzistajohn]

Maybe they're being sold because everyone is finding out they travel at the speed of stink??

[Perazzimx14]

Another question that is like asking how long is a piece of string? Out of the 2 or 3 I've seen F/S on ADV Rider and 1 or 2 here (I believe there is some overlap between the sites) I'm bettering each seller has a different reason or reasons. From can't afford, hates, funding another bike, thinning the herd and on and on.

From where I sit it does not seem to be a mass sell off of a particular bike only business as normal in the MC buying/selling world.


 

[blu guzz]

I have at 16,000+ miles of experiences on mine.  At my age and height, the tallness is not an issue yet, but could be in a few years.  Perhaps several bought it who are further along in the maturing process and thought as I did, that they could live with it but found out they could not.  It is not as good of an interstate burner as a 600+ lbs tourer, sport tourer or cruiser accessorized to tour.  I seldom wish for more power, but do once and a while.  The seat serves its purpose, but a better one would not hurt.  at 200 lbs, the suspension is a little on the firm side, but 50 lbs of luggage makes it about perfect.  I don't love the street/trail Anakees but the do the job with good mileage returned.  The handling is very engaging on any secondary road, but not sport bike sharp.
If you are getting the idea that it is just a very little "less than" then more specialized bikes, you are getting my point.  But for now, nothing else on the market does all of those things as well as this bike does for me or for anyone getting by with just one bike (in my opinion). Also, it has been completely stone reliable, not one issue (fingers crossed)

[bad Chad]

Maybe in part because it’s Guzzi biggest seller in years.   There are simply more of them, hence you would expect to see more for sale.

[Dirk_S]

The V85TT is a good entry-level ADV-tourer (for a porker). Some riders are going to ‘try out’ this one more quickly than say a KTM, Aprilia, 1200 GS, Pan American, or Africa Twin. Those things are investments, whereas you’re not losing too much when buying the goofy Guzzi transverse v-twin. People buy vehicles all the time and experience buyer’s remorse at some point, whether immediately or eventually. At least with the V85TT, they’re not breaking the bank too terribly as they would like one of the others I mentioned. If it’s not adventurous enough, they move onto one that it is. If not enough of a tourer, they move on to one that is. Like a mid-weight standard, it tries to do a little bit of everything, but won’t do any of it exceptionally. Besides, a lot of people THINK they want to be adventurous, buy into the marketing, and share pics of them out on some fire road, but once that exploration bug wears off, I imagine a dedicated road tourer looks more appealing.

[elvisboy77]

The V85TT is a good entry-level ADV-tourer (for a porker). Some riders are going to ‘try out’ this one more quickly than say a KTM, Aprilia, 1200 GS, Pan American, or Africa Twin. Those things are investments, whereas you’re not losing too much when buying the goofy Guzzi transverse v-twin. People buy vehicles all the time and experience buyer’s remorse at some point, whether immediately or eventually. At least with the V85TT, they’re not breaking the bank too terribly as they would like one of the others I mentioned. If it’s not adventurous enough, they move onto one that it is. If not enough of a tourer, they move on to one that is. Like a mid-weight standard, it tries to do a little bit of everything, but won’t do any of it exceptionally. Besides, a lot of people THINK they want to be adventurous, buy into the marketing, and share pics of them out on some fire road, but once that exploration bug wears off, I imagine a dedicated road tourer looks more appealing.

I got to ride one on the "Moto Guzzi experience" in Sardinia.

I sold my V7iii ( great bike, not for me on long trips) and my Eldo 1400 (great on the road, not easy in town for me) to get a V85TT.  The TT does everything well.  I'm 62 and have no interest in going off-road on anything that a street bike won't handle

The nice power, great screen, light weight and soft ride are perfect for my multi day trips. 

The TT is my goldilocks bike.  Just right. 

[Mr Pootle]

In the last year or so a lot of people have hit hard times. Maybe they're selling the bikes to pay the bills.

[LowRyter]

The two dealers in my state were sold out of new ones last I checked.   Rudy purchased the last one.

[Perazzimx14]

In the last year or so a lot of people have hit hard times. Maybe they're selling the bikes to pay the bills.

I don't think we've yet seen this ebb to the buying flow that was the last 18 months. Unfortunately its coming.

[twowheeladdict]

In the last year or so a lot of people have hit hard times. Maybe they're selling the bikes to pay the bills.

I personally doubt the majority of the people who hit hard times over the last 18 months were in the market for a $13,000 plus motorcycle. 

[blu guzz]

well, i bought mine 2 years ago before - was even a blip on the radar.  i could have fallen on hard times after that purchase.  and they were very hot sellers for that first 6-8 months right before the pandemic.

[Perazzimx14]

I personally doubt the majority of the people who hit hard times over the last 18 months were in the market for a $13,000 plus motorcycle.

Never rule out financial stupidity when it comes to people. $13,000 motorcycles $70,000 truck., $50,000 camper, $18,000 boat etc. The lots/dealers are empty and its not only those who are financially stable who bought. Lots of folks over bought out of boredom over the last 18 months. Buy now pay later or not at all has become the American way for far too many.

[rudyr]

I only have 1200 miles and no problem, except I’m ’ shorter now.  But slip to one or other side of seat I grows a in. Which helps.  When I get my hard bags & shorter seat is going make me taller again.  Of course with the hard bags the bike will not fall as far.  it’s just a matter of time before I drop the v85. I drop it when off loading for the first time, they or made ride not push.Rudy

[Perazzimx14]

I only have 1200 miles and no problem, except I’m ’ shorter now.  But slip to one or other side of seat I grows a in. Which helps.  When I get my hard bags & shorter seat is going make me taller again.  Of course with the hard bags the bike will not fall as far.  it’s just a matter of time before I drop the v85. I drop it when off loading for the first time, they or made ride not push.Rudy

I need a translator....

[willowstreetguzziguy]

Maybe the V85TT is a “jack of all trades, master of none” bike. And in this age where riders own several bikes, all for a specific type of riding, having a bike in their fleet that’s just OK, isn’t OK.

[Motormike]

Never rule out financial stupidity when it comes to people. $13,000 motorcycles $70,000 truck., $50,000 camper, $18,000 boat etc. The lots/dealers are empty and its not only those who are financially stable who bought. Lots of folks over bought out of boredom over the last 18 months. Buy now pay later or not at all has become the American way for far too many.

This!  Just had a neighbor pass away unexpectedly a few weeks ago.   He had worked as a high-ranking civil servant from a north eastern state know for their generous pensions and benefits.  He bought a nice motor-home a couple of years ago.  I always assumed he just paid cash for it.  Couldn't have been more wrong.  His widow is complaining she can't get rid of it because they owe more than it's worth!  Upside down on a six-figure purchase! 

[jrt]

For every person buying or selling a bike, there is a new reason.  The V85 is a popular bike- you'll see a lot of movement on it.  I bought one (that is now for sale).  I liked the specs, I liked the test ride, but it isn't a long term bike for me.  Who the hell knows- maybe I'll give it to my wife.  She can ride a motorcycle just fine.

[kingoffleece]

Or maybe it's folks listening to crappy magazine reviews and marketing that postulates .09 more inches of travel and 2.8 more hp make the NEW bike the absolute BOMB, and last years bike, which was the bomb is now revealed to be the cow it really was all along.  Do people RIDE these things? Any competent rider can keep up on public roads.  I've been with accomplished riders in a group of 15 (yes, 15!) on bikes from a 300 to a SupedDuke.  All through WV and New England.  Except for a long straight everybody arrives together.  You better believe 15 riding together at pace better know exactly what they are doing.  It's not the bike.

Look at the crap about the H-D PanAm.  MAYBE one in a hundred GS riders will run away from the PanAm.  Equal riders?  It'll be neck and neck.
Ever see a 600RR get smoked by a R75/5?  It's the rider.

[rudyr]

What I should have said up front is it’s to tall for a shot legged man.  But that is not a deal breaker.  I haven’t taken it down to pegs yet. still learning how she handles. One trip up Hy. 126 & 23 then I will see how it goes.  I took her up mt. Magazin but could push her, had a car in front of her. Rudy

[twowheeladdict]

Or maybe it's folks listening to crappy magazine reviews and marketing that postulates .09 more inches of travel and 2.8 more hp make the NEW bike the absolute BOMB, and last years bike, which was the bomb is now revealed to be the cow it really was all along.  Do people RIDE these things? Any competent rider can keep up on public roads.  I've been with accomplished riders in a group of 15 (yes, 15!) on bikes from a 300 to a SupedDuke.  All through WV and New England.  Except for a long straight everybody arrives together.  You better believe 15 riding together at pace better know exactly what they are doing.  It's not the bike.

Look at the crap about the H-D PanAm.  MAYBE one in a hundred GS riders will run away from the PanAm.  Equal riders?  It'll be neck and neck.
Ever see a 600RR get smoked by a R75/5?  It's the rider.

The tubeless wheels alone will get some to sell, so they can buy the latest greatest. 

Let's face it, the majority of drivers out there don't push the go pedal to the floor leaving a light.  Even my 12 HP Van Van can get out ahead of normally moving traffic. 

People buy "more power" because their emotions get the better of them.  When someone walks up to them and asks "How fast will it go?" or "How much HP does it have?"  They don't want to say 55 mph and 12 HP.  They want to be able to say "go to jail fast", and "more HP than I will ever need".  LOL! 

[jwinwi]

Hoping that Ewan McGregor hasn't fallen on hard times 
In any case he liked his so much he only put 107 miles on it. On ebay now for a mere $18,900. Now's your chance...

[egschade]

Maybe the V85TT is a “jack of all trades, master of none” bike. And in this age where riders own several bikes, all for a specific type of riding, having a bike in their fleet that’s just OK, isn’t OK.

Totally agree. It's not great at any one thing but being very good at everything that I need in a bike makes it so. If I had the means and space for multiple bikes I'd probably wouldn't own one but since that's not the case, it's about as good a bike as I could own.

It also helps that this is my 5th Guzzi so the whole owner experience (bike quirks & dealer situation) isn't new. I think that along with press hype could be two major reasons for first time Guzzi buyers to bail out.

[willowstreetguzziguy]

Totally agree. It's not great at any one thing but being very good at everything that I need in a bike makes it so. If I had the means and space for multiple bikes I'd probably wouldn't own one but since that's not the case, it's about as good a bike as I could own.

It also helps that this is my 5th Guzzi so the whole owner experience (bike quirks & dealer situation) isn't new. I think that along with press hype could be two major reasons for first time Guzzi buyers to bail out.

Good points.

[twowheeladdict]

Hoping that Ewan McGregor hasn't fallen on hard times 
In any case he liked his so much he only put 107 miles on it. On ebay now for a mere $18,900. Now's your chance...

Hope he autographed it, and stuffed a roll of $5000 in a piece of fuel line stuffed into the tank.