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I am partial to this one:To me, this is exactly what a modern interpretation of a classic Moto Guzzi should look like. (Well, this and the V7.) It stirs me the same way the Road King (there, I said it!) appeals to me as what a modern interpretation of a classic Harley-Davidson should look like.
Yeah, real nice! I wonder if you could modify this with the "Touring" model components? Hard bags, windshield, etc.
Thread posted: on: March 15, 2015, 10:01:31 PM »Last Active: March 15, 2015, 10:01:31 PM So, he hasn't logged in since posting.I'm sure he will be thoroughly entertained, when he does. :BEER:
Can't say I agree with much you say Kev,
I prefer the spoke wheels of the new Eldo (although I wish they were tubeless), and I am getting used to the headlight (it contrasts with the retro style, but in an interesting way, IMO). I would want the new Eldorado with hard black pebble-grain Hepco-Becker Junior luggage (40 L side cases and a 45L or 50 L top case) as on my EV, and the ability to switch among plexi touring and sport windshields, or no windshield, also as on my EV. Maybe also add a light bar with twin spots up front.If anyone here can Photoshop those accessories onto a picture of that red, black and chrome Eldorado, I would be most appreciative.
Then after becoming versed in how to scroll through the functions one day I shut it off and went for a ride. The first shotgun start with a little sand on the pavement the rear lit right up. And on wet, look out, in sport mode you will be in trouble pretty easy.
I was thinking about this some more last night... I still don't see why something with this relatively mild power-to-weight ratio really NEEDS TC - though again, I TOTALLY understand where it could be useful, like in rain etc.
High torque motor plus the immediate response of ride-by-wire? Maybe it's just one of those good-to-have things that you don't really notice. I never noticed the TC driving my car until a few days ago; after it had rained I went out and I was a little too aggressive with the throttle making a right turn at an intersection. The inside rear wheel slipped for a split second and the TC light on the dash flickered. Never noticed that before, but I suspect that until then the system had been working in the background, without me even knowing it.
...the immediate response of ride-by-wire?
I was thinking about this some more last night... I still don't see why something with this relatively mild power-to-weight ratio really NEEDS TC - though again, I TOTALLY understand where it could be useful, like in rain etc. And maybe I'm just being stubborn. Only 2 of my bikes in the past 2 decades have had ABS and though I've NEVER ACTUATED IT ON EITHER, I've softened my position and would probably chose it on most (all?) new future bikes just cause I'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and have it.Either way thanks for the report and getting me thinking about TC...
I also think that the heavier the bike, the more the tc becomes relevant, as it takes more initial force to get it rolling ,hence the greater likely hood of breaking traction if the motor is capable of developing the force required to do so.
^^^^ But it's torque, not horsepower, that spins the rear tire. Couldn't high torque at low rpm break traction on even a relatively hevay bike?FWIW, my experience with RBW has been the opposite of yours. I've twice ridden the Yamaha Super Tenere with RBW -- the throttle was, if anything, too responsive in Standard mode -- very snatchy and made the bike very jumpy at low speeds; Sport mode was even worse -- virtually unrideable, IMO. There was no lag. (I understand that for 2015, Yamaha has softened the throttle response.)