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Title: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: canuck750 on March 15, 2019, 09:17:50 PM
I have a couple sets of Ceriani shock absorbers that are period correct for many Italian motorcycles including my Laverda 750 SF1 and Benelli 650 Tornado to name a few. A couple pairs of these vintage shocks have suffered decades of corrosion to the hard chrome plates shafts. I tried several hard chrome plating shops in town but unfortunately these shops are not set up tp hard chrome the tiny shock absorber shafts, One shop quoted me $200 to set up their tooling and at least $100 to plate each shaft, Yikes!!

A shop foreman suggested I make new stainless steel shafts to match the originals, brilliant!

This is the shape of the original shock shaft after I cleaned the rust off

(https://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2485_zpsfamwboxw.jpg) (https://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2485_zpsfamwboxw.jpg.html)

I was lucky to find 7/16" hard stainless steel rod and cut new sections to length and milled the ends and threaded the tips to match the originals.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2490_zpso7y7xvzn.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2490_zpso7y7xvzn.jpg.html)

I have a professional welder friend willing to TIG weld the stainless shafts to the carbon steel top caps,

I cut the old shafts off the caps, ground off the remnants of the old shaft and then made a jig to hold the new shaft in place to the original cap

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2484_zpsxmywoqe2.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2484_zpsxmywoqe2.jpg.html)

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2494_zpsxmlj0n82.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2494_zpsxmlj0n82.jpg.html)

Once welded up I powder coated the caps again and these shocks will last a life time

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2495_zpsonqwswio.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2495_zpsonqwswio.jpg.html)

The stainless rod cost me under $15.00 and I used scrap steel to make the jig

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2496_zpstov4c7du.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2496_zpstov4c7du.jpg.html)

It took a couple hours of machining, welding and painting but saved $100's!
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: oldbike54 on March 15, 2019, 11:34:15 PM
 Very nice work Jim , I am seriously impressed  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Knuckle Dragger on March 16, 2019, 12:52:36 AM
Magnifico!
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Muzz on March 16, 2019, 04:23:33 AM
I knew a winter project would come along sooner or later. :grin:  Nice work! :thumb:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 16, 2019, 06:19:19 AM
Quote
It took a couple hours of machining, welding and painting but saved $100's!

 :smiley:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: cliffrod on March 16, 2019, 09:51:07 AM
Very, very cool.  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: SED on March 16, 2019, 12:26:43 PM
Nice work - great ideas there.  Thanks!    :thumb:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: canuck750 on March 16, 2019, 03:34:04 PM
Finished up the reassembly, Wolfgang Haerter at Columbia Car and Cycle in Naksusp B.C. had the new seal kits

The new stainless shafts are a tiny bit wider than the original so I had to ream out the centre of the cast slider a few thou, it's the part that moves with the shock action.

(https://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2502_zpsrguwtr6v.jpg) (https://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2502_zpsrguwtr6v.jpg.html)

I filled them with 70cc of 5 weight fluid

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2503_zpshg1l4bga.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2503_zpshg1l4bga.jpg.html)

And a repro decal to just smarten them up

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2504_zpsnbzgudtf.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2504_zpsnbzgudtf.jpg.html)

And the loaner pair (much longer) can go back on the Laverda

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2505_zps9wdpdcx9.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/1974%20Benelli%20650S%20Tornado/IMG_2505_zps9wdpdcx9.jpg.html)

Now the Benneli rear end sits like it should and the bike no longer wobbles on the centre stand. :thumb:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: jas67 on March 16, 2019, 04:54:26 PM
Wow, nice job!
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: huub on March 16, 2019, 05:48:54 PM
nice job, next time you might try hard chromed shaft, over here it is easily available at 20 euro/meter,
it is more durable than the stainless 
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 16, 2019, 07:20:01 PM
nice job, next time you might try hard chromed shaft, over here it is easily available at 20 euro/meter,
it is more durable than the stainless

Maybe so, but I'll bet it would be a bear to turn down and thread.. :smiley:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: John A on March 17, 2019, 08:49:24 AM
Beauty :thumb:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Stevex on March 17, 2019, 09:27:53 AM
Neat  :thumb:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: canuck750 on March 17, 2019, 11:01:38 AM
nice job, next time you might try hard chromed shaft, over here it is easily available at 20 euro/meter,
it is more durable than the stainless

Good tip Huub, I may look for that for a pair of Ikons I have in need of new shafts. Do you know if it is available in metric diameters?
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Tom H on March 17, 2019, 11:22:53 AM
Nice Work!!

For the Ikon's, maybe try Ikon for new shafts rather than making them.

Good luck!
Tom
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: huub on March 17, 2019, 11:38:21 AM
Good tip Huub, I may look for that for a pair of Ikons I have in need of new shafts. Do you know if it is available in metric diameters?

actually , over here ( netherlands) , that is the only sizes available

example;
https://www.indi.nl/nl-nl/p/aandrijftechniek/staal-en-kunststoffen/stafmateriaal-staal/as-materiaal-hardverchroomd/Hardchroom-as-12mm-3m-45836


metric sizes are probably harder to find over there, but it is available
machining it is no problem , if you have to cut threads you are in the base material,  not in the chrome layer
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 17, 2019, 03:03:37 PM
The only thing I *know* about in the states is Thompson Shafting, used with linear bearings. Good luck turning and threading that..  :grin:
Title: Re: Restoring Vintage Shock Absorbers
Post by: Knuckle Dragger on March 18, 2019, 03:25:53 AM
The only thing I *know* about in the states is Thompson Shafting, used with linear bearings. Good luck turning and threading that..  :grin:

Hello sailor!  In need of a good (Thompson) Shafting are we?  What a classic name.....