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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: wavedog on March 14, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
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Sad day. My goose is cooked. It flipped over sideways several times and cartwheeledfront to rear several times.. crikey. I am fine, the gear did its job. Photos later.
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Wholey Schmidt , what happened ? :shocked:
Dusty
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Sounds like you're a SURVIVOR!!! :thumb: Now you can make that cafe Guzzi you've always wanted. :rolleyes: :evil: New body pieces unless the frame is twisted. Hey.....trying to "make lemonade out of lemons." Good to hear the gear worked out.
Richard who now has a V85TT, wadded his Cali 1400 Touring and survived. It did the alley pop into a WI cornfield. When you're ready give "the rest of the story."
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Glad you're OK. Sorry about the bike. Lot's of bikes to choose for replacement.
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That doesn't sound good at all :cry: but at the end of the day, you're walking and talking, so it obviously ended well.
Take it real easy for the next while, you're probably hurting in places you haven't thought of yet.
Glad you came out of it better than the bike by the sounds of it.
Kelly
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I am laying on the sofa nursing a sore toe. My lovely wife, the fabulous Mrs Wavedog, is waiting on me hand and foot. I guess I am doing pretty good.”
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Glad to hear the bike took the brunt of this one! Best wishes,
Bob
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Good to hear that you're ok. That's the main thing.
Mind yourself.
Jim.
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: for story + photos. Without :gotpics: it didn't happen.
Glad to hear you are ok, especially if a sore toe is your worst injury.
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Must be the Mother of all sore toes!
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I'm glad you are ok. I guess you got out of the way of the bike as it did its circus act?
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Can’t see from photos but both mufflers bashed, gas rear fender dash all lights and instrumentation. Handle bars, switches, front master brake cylinder on and on and on. Crash bars ground down on both sides.
Good news is the seat beads stayed on! Win!
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Can’t see from photos but both mufflers bashed, gas rear fender dash all lights and instrumentation. Handle bars, switches, front master brake cylinder on and on and on. Crash bars ground down on both sides.
Good news is the seat beads stayed on! Win!
I don't know, it looks like they can buff that right out ... :wink:
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OUCH ! To echo everyone else , really glad you're OK .
Dusty
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It's no fun being you right now, but I really like the image of you with the officer. I'm sure he wishes they all worked out like this.
I've trashed a bike before, you know what they say about airplanes and landings - it's a good landing if you can walk away from it, and a great landing if they can use the aircraft again. I'm going to pronounce this a good one.
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I have had some landings where the aircraft could not be used again.
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So what caused the flippy flippy knee over toe hold prang?
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Good to see you *standing* next to the officer post accident! A bit sore is better than a bit broken.
So, was it loose gravel on the road? Too sharp a curve for the intended speed? Aliens?
Rumours will fill the air if you don't give us at least a hint.
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Glad you are ok, bikes can be replaced 😂
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(https://i.ibb.co/tqzQnwD/F7-E63-A25-0231-4034-9-D7-F-C05-D989-BC4-C3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tqzQnwD)
(https://i.ibb.co/F85nNhy/CE84-BE11-FB7-B-4952-B428-02215-F07-BF96.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F85nNhy)
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That should buff right out.
(sorry- but someone was bound to say it)
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That should buff right out.
(sorry- but someone was bound to say it)
Count about six or seven posts back, someone already did . . .
Glad you're OK WD.
I had a similar experience a couple of years back, racing (Post Classic) at Chimay in Belgium.
Just tipping into an 80-ish mph chicane, and a guy behind clipped my rear Tyre.
I slid and tumbled for about 60m, every single panel on my Leathers had damage, all I got was a scuff on my Elbow.
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So the insurance dude will be showing up Wednesday and he let on that the bike will be totaled. I already know the insurance company will only be offering a very small token payment. I will have to weigh out some options like keep it and part out the good stuff ( not the bodywork)or take payment, buy it back and sell parts? Due to health and financial reasons I wouldn’t be able to repair or replace for a long long time. Hmm, what to do?
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.... buy it back ....
Calling Two Checks, calling Two Checks, you're the one with the explanation!
Lannis
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I saw a couple of photos Emily posted of the bike. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be for what happened to it. Glad you're okay!
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So the insurance dude will be showing up Wednesday and he let on that the bike will be totaled. I already know the insurance company will only be offering a very small token payment. I will have to weigh out some options like keep it and part out the good stuff ( not the bodywork)or take payment, buy it back and sell parts? Due to health and financial reasons I wouldn’t be able to repair or replace for a long long time. Hmm, what to do?
I don't know the insurance regulations in your state, but here in California, you have to be offered replacement value, not "book" value - and no, there is no requirement for your policy to state replacement cost in the policy, it's state law. The hierarchy is 1) sales in the last 90 days; 2)valuation by a dealer or other knowledgeable person; 3) Blue Book
Best of luck with your insurance. And to echo others, glad you are OK. Bikes are replaceable (more or less), but humans are a lot tougher to replace.
jdg
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Thanks for the info and support. Appreciate it.
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Good luck negotiating with the insurance company, giv'em hell! Glad to see you were able to walk away from from an accident that had the potential to be far worse.
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So glad you're ok wavedog. Hopefully another ride will become available somehow. To repeat others, what happened? Even if rider error sharing may lend insight to others.
I disagree with jdgretz tho. Some bikes are irreplaceable but last I heard years ago, 3 humans are born every second.
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It looks like it can be fixed to me..
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It looks like it can be fixed to me..
I agree. Doesn’t look that bad. Unless frame is bent or broken. Maybe let the insurance company total it out, buy it back, and fix it up.
On a related note, if you are willing, please let us know how this happened. I’m a big believer that everyone can learn from such mishaps.
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The insurance dude won’t be here until Friday, so just waiting.
Concerning the crash incident, I have been somewhat reticent to post what happened as it seems improbable, and also my own reactions were, in my evaluation, slow and less than satisfactory. With that in mind here goes:
I was following two friends on a divided hiway, traffic slowed for a light, we slowed also but did not need to stop. As we accelerated away, the throttle on my bike went wide open and stuck open. That bike has never in all my many years of ownership accelerated that fast. I was in second gear, the front wheel was off the ground slightly and aiming to rear end my friend in front of me. I tried to grab the clutch, hit the kill switch, shut the throttle-which was stuck wide open-and avoid traffic simultaneously. There were cars next to me, my friend in front of me and in both lanes behind me. When the front wheel made contact with the road I had the bike leaned over trying to weave through traffic and down I went. Traffic in front accelerated away, traffic behind braked, no contact with anyone or anything. Got up after a substantial tumble and slide, righted the bike, pushed it off the road, gathered the parts, waved traffic on and waited for my friends.
Too-Loose-le-Goose deserved better.
The why and how of the throttle going wide open and sticking I do not know. Flashlight inspection revealed nothing.
After meeting with the adjuster and if I keep the bike I will look into it.
That’s it for now.
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Glad you're Ok that's the main thing
I've heard of carb bikes that have had throttle slides stick, usually due to weaker return springs installed but never an FI bike (it appears to be FI in the picture)
Dirt in the linkage? Sticky cable? Whatever it was it's easy to critisice actions and reactions, but an unexpected event that serious and the next to zero time to react mean an accident was just about a certaintity
From your description I think your actions were pretty dammed good, I doubt I'd have had the quick thinking and reactions to take the avoiding measures you managed
John
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Last summer I had the experience of the throttle on my Jackal sticking wide open, but it did not accelerate on it's own, that was all my doing. That is very curious to me. I cannot envision a mechanical reason for it. There are three separate coil springs on that assembly that all act as a return against the throttle cable - as you roll it open, they pull back.
In my case, I initially thought is was the coil spring on one/both of the throttle bodies, but in end it was the coil spring in the center, on the post where the two arms intersect. It was gummed up and not returning without assist.
Sounds like a horrible situation and you're fortunate to be telling us about it unscathed.
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Hi wavedog, how did things turn out with the insurance? I’m crossing my fingers for you, as a lot of us probably are.
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The insurance guy was here Friday and it went about like I thought it would. He barely looked at the bike and said it’s totaled. After our conversation he took a bunch of photos, gave me some paperwork, told that Monday I would receive notice of monetary settlement and left.
The money will help in my decision deciding the fate of Ol Too-Loose-Le-Goose.
Some options that I am considering now:
Take the money- seriously doubt it will be enough or worth it.
Take the money, buy the bike back and part out the good stuff.
Withdraw the claim, replace the handlebars, instal whatever lights that I can obtain cheaply and ride the bashed up bike. Beauty is only skin deep, or is that in the eye of the beer holder?
Here in Florida it is very difficult to get a salvage title bike on the road.
None of the above are carved in stone, just kicking around ideas.
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There was a recall that added a second cable to the throttle to close it. What happens is if the airbox moves slightly, it can foul the bellcrank assy and hold the throttle open. Glad you were not seriously hurt, that's one that has a high probability of bad things