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Offline rboe

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #720 on: February 02, 2015, 01:47:49 PM »
Hmm, trying to think of a way to justify Snoopy on his dog house in flying goggles as a decal on the tank....
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #721 on: February 02, 2015, 02:52:01 PM »
Hmm, trying to think of a way to justify Snoopy on his dog house in flying goggles as a decal on the tank....

Lucky Phil would blow out the main vein..you wouldn't want to have that on your conscience.  ;)  :D Maybe on a bobber, but someone else will have to do that.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #722 on: February 02, 2015, 03:13:48 PM »
No dyno runs. Forget that, those cost money..  ;D :BEER:

How about if we each chip in a couple bucks?  Post a PayPal address and I'll kick in.
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #723 on: February 02, 2015, 03:19:49 PM »
How about if we each chip in a couple bucks?  Post a PayPal address and I'll kick in.

No.  ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #724 on: February 02, 2015, 03:32:07 PM »
Chuck I have a friend who is just like you. Malcolm is a very talented engineer, can make, repair and paint anything, does fibreglass, builds beautiful motorcycles, the whole nine yards, and is as tight as a fish's bum. Having said that, he would do anything for his friends (except spend money) and give you the shirt off his back. He is one in a million and I get the feeling you may very well be another one. Thanks so much for sharing this adventure. I have enjoyed every minute of it and look forward to the ride report.

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #725 on: February 02, 2015, 03:44:27 PM »
Chuck I have a friend who is just like you. Malcolm is a very talented engineer, can make, repair and paint anything, does fibreglass, builds beautiful motorcycles, the whole nine yards, and is as tight as a fish's bum. Having said that, he would do anything for his friends (except spend money) and give you the shirt off his back. He is one in a million and I get the feeling you may very well be another one. Thanks so much for sharing this adventure. I have enjoyed every minute of it and look forward to the ride report.

Dave

Thanks for that, Dave. I don't like to spend money unnecessarily, that's all. I happily ponied up the money for new carbs, for instance. Now, I *did* get them wholesale.  ~;  ;)  Dyno runs? What's the point? Every dyno is different. 1/4 mile times might mean something if all you are looking for is to run the quarter mile. What I'm hoping to get is better bottom end torque..the Lario engine doesn't wake up until about 6K.. without taking a hit on the top end. I *think* this engine will do that, and be considerably more reliable, to boot. Time will tell..
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #726 on: February 02, 2015, 04:16:30 PM »
No.  ;D

Ah, so money isn't the real reason!    ;)
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #727 on: February 02, 2015, 04:43:01 PM »
Ah, so money isn't the real reason!    ;)

Naa..
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #728 on: February 02, 2015, 06:41:14 PM »
Chuck is a guzzi guy, why spend money that could be spent on beer or sausages.....

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #729 on: February 02, 2015, 10:32:59 PM »
Awesome. Can't wait to see some dyno runs and hear how it rides.

So. Would this be the rarest Lario on the planet?

It's no longer a Lario as it doesn't have grenade status any longer.  ::)
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #730 on: February 03, 2015, 10:36:06 AM »
It's no longer a Lario as it doesn't have grenade status any longer.  ::)

So far, it does.  I'll remove them after a few thousand trouble free miles.  ~; ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #731 on: February 03, 2015, 11:23:23 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mr Roper would approve. ;-T
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #732 on: February 03, 2015, 11:56:34 AM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mr Roper would approve. ;-T

I got them specifically for Mr. Roper.  ;D I'd gone to Ebay and had it do a search for Lario. The next day, the first thing that popped up on my email was these green grenade valve caps. I assumed it was a sign from above. Had to have em.. :BEER:
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #733 on: February 03, 2015, 07:29:40 PM »
Brings new meaning to blowing your tire.....
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #734 on: February 03, 2015, 11:23:04 PM »
So far, it does.  I'll remove them after a few thousand trouble free miles.  ~; ;D


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« Reply #735 on: February 04, 2015, 09:25:53 AM »
Thanks for that, Dave. I don't like to spend money unnecessarily, that's all. I happily ponied up the money for new carbs, for instance. Now, I *did* get them wholesale.  ~;  ;)  Dyno runs? What's the point? Every dyno is different. 1/4 mile times might mean something if all you are looking for is to run the quarter mile. What I'm hoping to get is better bottom end torque..the Lario engine doesn't wake up until about 6K.. without taking a hit on the top end. I *think* this engine will do that, and be considerably more reliable, to boot. Time will tell..
Though we know why Guzzi did it, I think they did a disservice to us Lario guys by gearing it so high.  It is much more practical for the hooligan in us to go with the V65 gearing and it's still in its comfort zone at highway speeds.  It's 8% in the right direction.  Who gives a rats patootie what top speed is.  Saying this, I think the aero mill will work well with the extra grunt factor with the higher gearing.  Good match.  For putzin around like you do Chuck, it's a non-issue I realize.  ;-T
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #736 on: February 04, 2015, 09:33:29 AM »
Wanna race, dawg?  ~; :BEER:
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« Reply #737 on: February 04, 2015, 09:56:13 AM »
Wanna race, dawg?  ~; :BEER:

Hmmmm... I've got you on the weight factor and handling for sure.   ~;  Straight line... think you can rip it  :+=copcar   "if" it turns out to be what it's stated to be.  That's what we don't know.  The Lario said 60hp, but we know it's 38 RWHP stock.  An exaggeration for sure!  I don't really know where mine sits now since Ed's dyno was on the fritz in the end.  He tried several attempts only to come up with what he did.  Is that accurate?  Heaven only knows.  My butt says it's at least 15% (which is what he got with his numbers). It feels a lot bigger than stock.       
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #738 on: February 04, 2015, 11:04:16 AM »
We're just going to have to wait and see. I would *love* to get it out on the road, but they are still ice and snow covered around here with more on the way. Just played with it a bit. I now have a solid idle at 1200, and throttle response is excellent. Blipping it, it goes to 4K, then back to idle.  :drool Certainly more responsive than the Lario was. Idle mixture is three turns out, so probably needs bigger idle jets, but I'm sure it's rideable as is. Patience, Chuckie, patience... ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #739 on: February 04, 2015, 11:08:01 AM »

....Blipping it, it goes to 4K, then back to idle....Patience, Chuckie, patience...


Who you trying to kid?  ;)


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« Reply #740 on: February 04, 2015, 12:53:41 PM »
What could possibly go wrong? ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #741 on: February 04, 2015, 01:09:32 PM »
What could possibly go wrong? ;D

That was in my head at the first startup.. after all, it is a conglomeration of 3 different engines and home made parts assembled by an amateur Guzzi mechanic.. ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #742 on: February 04, 2015, 02:12:28 PM »
well then, sounds like you could call it the new 2015 Lario......  ::)

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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #743 on: February 04, 2015, 09:11:41 PM »
That's quite an achievement, Chuck. I'm looking forward to hearing reviews on how the thing performs on the road. Congratulations!

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« Reply #744 on: February 05, 2015, 06:43:09 AM »
That's quite an achievement, Chuck. I'm looking forward to hearing reviews on how the thing performs on the road. Congratulations!

Boy, so am I, David.. 3 degrees F right now...  ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #745 on: February 10, 2015, 04:09:57 PM »
Well Chuck,
What have you done lately, this sucker slipped to page 4.... We need a fix..... You cant take us through the challenging build, the tight stuff right up to fire up, then have a smooth fire up and one update that you got it to idle perfect....   We got's a jones for this bike, keep the junkies going...
Cheers buddy,
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #746 on: February 10, 2015, 05:43:11 PM »
Well Chuck,
What have you done lately, this sucker slipped to page 4.... We need a fix..... You cant take us through the challenging build, the tight stuff right up to fire up, then have a smooth fire up and one update that you got it to idle perfect....   We got's a jones for this bike, keep the junkies going...
Cheers buddy,
Jon

Hiya Jon! Well, I added Dyna coils that I'd scrounged for free (Guzzi content) but put that in the Lario Rehab thread since doing that would pretty much be the same for most of the old small blocks. Thought I'd add some NGK caps and RED (for Lucky Phil) solid core wires. They haven't arrived, yet. I really wanted to ride it today, the sun was out.. but it never got above 26 degrees. Nope. Not me. I don't bounce as well as I used to.. ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #747 on: February 10, 2015, 07:07:26 PM »
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Nope. Not me. I don't bounce as well as I used to.. Grin

People who are in shape bounce well and round is a shape so it's about time I heard, "Hold my beer....."  ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #748 on: February 10, 2015, 07:48:00 PM »
People who are in shape bounce well and round is a shape so it's about time I heard, "Hold my beer....."  ;D

Hey! We already did "hold my Grappa" for the startup ceremony.  ;D
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Re: Aero engine rescue
« Reply #749 on: February 11, 2015, 10:19:51 AM »
Much like a drug dealer, you have hooked us, so what do you have for us now my friend!  Perhaps a an old guzzi tarting up, you know the one, in the back of the hanger, showed in one of your pics... That boy needs to be ready to ride by spring, and I know a guy who will pony up the cash..... Just sayin if you need to keep the show going.
Cheers Chuck and Dorcia,
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