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Title: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: jared p on October 17, 2021, 01:52:51 AM
Sold. After all these responses, I'm kinda sad I didn't get to do a resto on this.

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Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: Old Jock on October 17, 2021, 03:51:44 AM
I'm not an expert on them by any stretch of the imagination, but owned a "cooking" early Daytona and now have a Magni Australia, which is essentially a Daytona RS engined bike and it has given me fits over the years so I've learned a good bit about them

That bike looks like an early version, the giveaways are the white wheels, pork chops, forks, no oil cooler and the standard sump spacer. Later bikes went to USD WP forks, the pork chops were a bit different as I recall and the later models had a broad sump. Looking again I see that bike has a WP remote reservoir rear shock

Great bikes, extremely stable, perhaps a bit too stable, as they need quite a bit of rider input to get them to turn in, ideally suited to fast roads with sweepers. A few owners swapped the forks for GSX forks and stated it was a big improvement

There's a bit of work and expense required to get them reliable in the longer term. If I was in the US I'd be on the phone to you right now, it's one of the bikes that Guzzi made that must surely become a classic.

Parts are getting harder to find, but as far as restoring to a runner, would be just all the usual service items and a belt change. If the mileage was 10k or above I'd also check the oil pump as a minimum and ideally replace it with one of the alternates available, usually a Caruso or Daes Motec, but that's not cheap. The oil pump is the biggest known weak point on the engine, there are other items, but they are far longer term.

I'd also join the V11 forum, quite a few Centauro owners there and the COG (centauro owner's group) forum although more or less defunct also has a lot of good info contained within it.

Here's a link to Lucky Phil's thread on a Daytona engine build, that contains some great background and should tell virtually all you need to know about the internals

https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20664-v11-daytona-project/ (https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20664-v11-daytona-project/)

COG Forum

http://www.centauro-owners.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=e2a1bcd883d85a548e708921b782756f (http://www.centauro-owners.com/phpBB2/index.php?sid=e2a1bcd883d85a548e708921b782756f)

Perhaps Phil will chime in he's on here too.

Feel free to PM me if you want to talk some more or post away here, they are great bikes and IMHO nothing quite like them when on song, very visceral and different to the 2v/v engines

John
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: jared p on October 17, 2021, 02:34:36 PM
Thank you for the excellent response. I’ll be looking into all those things you linked and mentioned
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: Tom on October 17, 2021, 03:04:12 PM
This is also a dual post not a mono-post.  What year?  They had 3 hop up kits from the factory. 
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: dxhall on October 17, 2021, 03:33:12 PM
As luck would have it, I have a red Sport 1100 tank, which I think is the same as the Daytona.  I could be convinced to take on another project.  What’s the history of the bike?  Can you PM me what you’d sell for?
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: Old Jock on October 17, 2021, 03:36:50 PM
This is also a dual post not a mono-post.  What year?  They had 3 hop up kits from the factory.

You referring to the A, B & C kits?

You reminded me that the standard bike had the "bean can" collector.

That bike looks like it might be A kitted.

To the Op may be worth taking the tail off and popping the rubber cover on the ECU as it might have an A kit, different air filter, better exhaust collector and a different chip for the fuel map.

Not a very good picture but my old early model Daytona which had the A kit, just to let you see the collector

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Just my personal experience others might tell you different, but the standard bike and A and B kits were fine and ran well, without issue

Some of the C kitted full fat bikes could be prone to overheating, but as the US models got a different cam I think it's academic.

The C kit was pretty spendy and IMHO not worth the cash it only gave you around 6 more ponies as I recall but needed pistons, rods, crank and cam as well are aforementioned crossover and filter
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: Turin on October 17, 2021, 11:53:30 PM
Forget all of the A,B, and C kit stuff. This one has the usual easy modifications. The only sure way to tell what camshafts are in it is to disassemble the heads. Could be a nice bike. I have a friend who is looking for one of these.
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: jared p on October 17, 2021, 11:56:11 PM
Thank you all for your responses. A local Guzzista actually stormed in and picked it up within an hour of it posting locally. I had already left for the day and was  unaware. Thank you again for all the great info. I kinda wish it hadn't sold now, seems like it would have been a fun project to clean up and get dialed in.
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: Turin on October 17, 2021, 11:59:08 PM
It could also have been a money pit. what did it go for?
Title: Re: Moto Guzzi Daytona 1000
Post by: brider on October 18, 2021, 10:47:57 AM
Ye Gods, that's a beautiful bike. Kind of like a P-51 Mustang, looks like it's going fast just sitting there.