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Title: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 18, 2020, 08:39:18 AM
Cafe Bustello, MSR Whisperlite and  hanging out in the garage with cool a/c blowing on my back. In about 12 minutes I’ll be sipping on some bold coffee and perusing the internet for deals.


(https://i.ibb.co/sPSQMq3/9-EB030-C4-63-E6-430-D-95-E8-0-E4392-AFC17-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sPSQMq3)
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: JeffOlson on July 18, 2020, 09:57:21 AM
I like percolators! My grandparents had one in their cabin. Whenever we would visit, we'd brew up some strong percolated coffee (with Folgers, of course!)

Today, my wife and I live in the cabin (which has been completely rebuilt). The percolator is long gone, but I have fond memories of it, with its sound and smell.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 18, 2020, 10:32:27 AM
I like percolators! My grandparents had one in their cabin. Whenever we would visit, we'd brew up some strong percolated coffee (with Folgers, of course!)

Today, my wife and I live in the cabin (which has been completely rebuilt). The percolator is long gone, but I have fond memories of it, with its sound and smell.

One of the great things about food and drink threads are the memories they spark. Its amazing how a few typed works can bring up the smells, tastes and sights from decades ago making them seem like only yesterday.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: bigbikerrick on July 18, 2020, 12:07:57 PM
Bustelo, is some great Cuban coffee! I didnt know you could brew it in a percolator, I thought it was too fine ground for that. Apparently not.
  My Cuban grandmother would drink strong bustelo coffee everyday, all day long, in espresso form until she was  94.
Once she had he "Bustelo  buzz on" she was off to the races, staying active the whole day.
Amazing stuff!  :thumb:
Rick.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 18, 2020, 12:39:47 PM
Bustelo, is some great Cuban coffee! I didnt know you could brew it in a percolator, I thought it was too fine ground for that. Apparently not.
  My Cuban grandmother would drink strong bustelo coffee everyday, all day long, in espresso form until she was  94.
Once she had he "Bustelo  buzz on" she was off to the races, staying active the whole day.
Amazing stuff!  :thumb:
Rick.

Its not ideal but he flavor is so good with a few suggestions its doable.

1. Line the percolator basket with a coffee filter. Spoon in the grounds and then trim the rest of the filter with a air of scissors.
2. After brewing let the pot sit off the heat undisturbed for a few minutes to let the fines settle out.
3. Don't drink the last of the pot


Café Bustelo is also really good out of the Moca pot. It makes a very bold cup of coffee that is great served up espresso style or add homemade brownie in the bottom of a bowl dollop a few scoops of good vanilla ice-cream and then drizzle a little of the coffee over the ice cream. 

What really neat is the way different brewing methods extract different flavors from the same coffee/water. Using a drip, peculator, Moca pot, French press all produce different flavors.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: AJ Huff on July 18, 2020, 12:56:43 PM
Man I need to get one of those and put it in my rotation. I never knew there was a stove top percolator. I just remember the big plug in one my dad had when I was little.

-AJ
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: kingoffleece on July 18, 2020, 03:10:05 PM
I'm a BIG fan of boiled coffee.  Every day.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: malik on July 18, 2020, 03:51:03 PM
Barbarians!
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Motormike on July 18, 2020, 09:46:30 PM
I can still remember as a kid, waking up to the smell and sound of my mom's percolator in the kitchen.  I can't stand these KEURIG coffee makers everyone has today, including my wife.  I've tried every brand coffee pod imaginable, Starbucks, Dunkin, Green Mountain, on and on, they all taste awful.  So I found a percolator just like the one my mom & dad had when I was a kid.  A 1960's vintage Sunbeam percolator on ebay.  Made in the good ol USA and still works like a charm.  Good, drinkable coffee.  Sure, the grounds are a little messy, but it is soooo much better that coffee from those little plastic pods!
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: geodoc on July 18, 2020, 09:55:18 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/PfDDb65x/beaver-espresso-2005-Tichchik-Park.jpg)
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Muzz on July 18, 2020, 10:11:12 PM
Barbarians!

That too! :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 19, 2020, 06:13:28 AM
I can still remember as a kid, waking up to the smell and sound of my mom's percolator in the kitchen.  I can't stand these KEURIG coffee makers everyone has today, including my wife.  I've tried every brand coffee pod imaginable, Starbucks, Dunkin, Green Mountain, on and on, they all taste awful.  So I found a percolator just like the one my mom & dad had when I was a kid.  A 1960's vintage Sunbeam percolator on ebay.  Made in the good ol USA and still works like a charm.  Good, drinkable coffee.  Sure, the grounds are a little messy, but it is soooo much better that coffee from those little plastic pods!

Keurig makes dirty water.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Lannis on July 19, 2020, 07:04:55 AM
For years, Fay and I tried our darndest to learn to be Coffee Aficionados (read "Snobs").   We tried all manner of exotic coffees from the four corners of the earth, went to custom coffee roasters to try each coffee in light to dark roasts, ground our own beans in both blade and hammer-type grinders, hand and electric.   

We had pre-heat drip coffee makers, french presses, percolators ....

We were ready to spend money if we had to, since we drink coffee every single day, and (like anything else you use every day, like a mattress or shower) it's worth getting the right thing.   A $3000 espresso machine and $40/pound coffee?   No problem, we'll do without something else and make it happen.

Then we were over at my son's house, he served coffee, and we were like "Wow, this is excellent coffee, as good as anything we've ever had.   What is it?" ... hoping it would be some exotic new thing that was hard to get.

Dunkin Doughnuts Medium Roast Original Blend ground coffee through a Cuisinart drip coffee maker.

If this be barbarity, make the most of it!  as Patrick Henry didn't quite say .... So that's what we drink.

Lannis
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Noguzznoglory on July 19, 2020, 07:13:37 AM
I’ve been using a stove top percolator forever. If I could just find a good source for Kenya coffee. Used to buy it from community coffee in New Orleans bu they stopped selling it
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: ohiorider on July 19, 2020, 07:18:50 AM
Reminded me of this commercial .......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWEYjEQ75ZM

Bob
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: dguzzi on July 19, 2020, 08:45:31 AM
I've been looking around for a camping coffee pot, damn if I would pay the prices of a new one!  I like the one in the first post.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Anomaly on July 19, 2020, 09:05:18 AM
Kamira. Nothing more to say.

(https://i.ibb.co/7pgX4sN/Kamira.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7pgX4sN)
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 19, 2020, 09:55:36 AM
I've been looking around for a camping coffee pot, damn if I would pay the prices of a new one!  I like the one in the first post.

Walmart $29 in the camping section. All stainless steel. There are others in the sub $20 range as well w/ different style handles.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: jrt on July 19, 2020, 10:45:23 AM
Geodoc, why do you put insect repellent in your coffee?  Does it add that piquant flavor profile?  :cheesy:

I use a stand-alone espresso machine made by ECM.  It makes a fine espresso or cappuccino. 
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: AJ Huff on July 19, 2020, 11:22:30 AM
Kamira. Nothing more to say.

(https://i.ibb.co/7pgX4sN/Kamira.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7pgX4sN)


This looks very interesting alternative to the Handpresso I have and never bonded with. I might need to explore it. But I have a real struggle making less than a liter at a time. You guys sure drink small cups of coffee.

-AJ
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: dguzzi on July 19, 2020, 12:57:34 PM
Walmart $29 in the camping section. All stainless steel. There are others in the sub $20 range as well w/ different style handles.

Need aluminum and I won't be using it for coffee.  Used and dented is fine..   (it will be for artwork)
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: geodoc on July 19, 2020, 01:47:20 PM
Geodoc, why do you put insect repellent in your coffee?  Does it add that piquant flavor profile?  :cheesy:

I use a stand-alone espresso machine made by ECM.  It makes a fine espresso or cappuccino.

Where the airplane was parked in SW Alaska, you need to make a copious application to your person of DEET-containing repellent at regular intervals or you'll swell up like an itchy balloon. I preferred the kind that would melt a plastic wrist watch as most effective. Got to have a nice steaming hot cup while waiting for the lads to catch a pike or two.

As an aside, the stove is a Coleman and Avgas 100LL burned fine in it.

Meanwhile, different Beaver, different lake in a different country, but same coffee making rig:

(https://i.postimg.cc/0jshDhWm/near-dease-lake-2002.jpg)




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Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Motormike on July 19, 2020, 07:23:44 PM
My late 1950's Sunbeam Coffeemaster.  Model AP.  Just like the one my mom used every morning.
(https://i.ibb.co/cw9SmLW/TSSkzii-KRHOCGIU6ava-ZYg.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cw9SmLW)
 Built like a tank in the good ol' US of A!  Back when this country made things to last!
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: AJ Huff on July 19, 2020, 10:19:53 PM
Need aluminum and I won't be using it for coffee.  Used and dented is fine..   (it will be for artwork)

Hah! I'm the opposite. Even my Mokapot is stainless steel. And my French press. I frickin' hate aluminum.

-AJ
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: bad Chad on July 20, 2020, 09:22:05 AM
Percolators are fun.  I used to be fascinated by the olive green one my grandparents used all the time.

But it was the 70s and Mr. Coffee had come out and Americans discovered that automatic drip made for noticeably better tasting coffee, so my folks switched to auto drip at some point.

The consensus among people who know how to make coffee is percolators are a bad way to make good tasting coffee, it burns the crap out of the beans.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 20, 2020, 09:39:14 AM
Percolators are fun.  I used to be fascinated by the olive green one my grandparents used all the time.

But it was the 70s and Mr. Coffee had come out and Americans discovered that automatic drip made for noticeably better tasting coffee, so my folks switched to auto drip at some point.

The consensus among people who know how to make coffee is percolators are a bad way to make good tasting coffee, it burns the crap out of the beans.

I'd say auto drip is more convenient but it doesn't make a better cup of coffee.

Roasting coffee beans happens at about 350+ degrees. Boil water is 212 degrees. Its impossible to burn/scorch the coffee with boiling water. burned coffee was caused by the auto drip machine with a warmer under the pot.

Percolator coffee is certainly stronger or more bold as you run the same fluid over the grounds mutiple times extracting more flavor with each pass vs one pass in/out with an auto drip.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Lannis on July 20, 2020, 09:48:33 AM
Jaguars are prettier than Austin-Healeys, redheads with green eyes are the best looking women, Border Collies are the handsomest dogs, Farberware is the best cookware, and Aprilia makes the fastest, most stylish sport-bikes.

There, that's settled .... !

Lannis
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: jcctx on July 20, 2020, 09:51:52 AM
Jaguars are prettier than Austin-Healeys, redheads with green eyes are the best looking women, Border Collies are the handsomest dogs, Farberware is the best cookware, and Aprilia makes the fastest, most stylish sport-bikes.

There, that's settled .... !

Lannis
LANNIS HAS SPOKEN!!
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Lannis on July 20, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
      Yay Lannis, Lannis for President. Border Collies Rule.

Our Jack agrees ...

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Jack/i-jWp6R5W/0/78644dfb/4K/DSC00903-4K.jpg) (https://lannisselz.smugmug.com/Jack/i-jWp6R5W/A)

He certainly rules around our house ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: bad Chad on July 20, 2020, 02:36:08 PM
This seems to sum it up,

The percolator was invented by American soldier and scientist Count Rumford, U.S. patented by James Mason 1865, and adapted to stove-tops by farmer Hanson Goodrich in 1889. So the tool had been an American staple for over a century before the drip coffee makers arrived.

Percolators differ from drip coffee makers in that they cycle water through the grounds multiple times. This results in what’s often referred to as “over-extraction.”

With a percolator, you are going to get a strong, robust but bitter tasting coffee, due to the combination of consistent boiling and the length of time the percolator runs. The water in the bottom of the pot can get to a rolling boil and the already brewed coffee can cycle through grounds multiple times.

Because of this, users must essentially babysit their percolator to maintain the proper temperature and brew time. Otherwise, the coffee won’t be too pleasant. Once you get a hang of it, this method can brew a decent cup of coffee.

The main pull of this method is its versatility. Percolators come in self-heating and non-self-heating options. That means some of them can be used both in-house on a stove-top or in a microwave, or on camping trips over a fire.

Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: JeffOlson on July 20, 2020, 02:46:42 PM
Keurig makes dirty water.

I agree, but it is what I use simply for convenience--though I do add lots of compressed whipped cream to make it palatable!
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: pariah on July 20, 2020, 03:24:02 PM
I bought a stainless 'Stellar' moka pot a few years back. weights about a kilo, extremely well made.


(https://i.ibb.co/8xdTsPz/Stellar-Art-Deco-6-Cup.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8xdTsPz)


There's a trick to making decent coffee in this. Firstly the grind, just above espresso fineness. Fill the base with boiled but not boiling water. On the stove at low/medium heat, pull off the heat before it boils dry and spits. That stops it overextracting and tasting bitter

Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: diablo45 on July 20, 2020, 06:52:11 PM
Just to add to the fun, I make my wife her coffee in this when we are camping. Pyrex 6 cup perculator


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Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: dguzzi on July 21, 2020, 01:40:15 PM
I thought it was Sam Lator that invented it. Perc was a brand name....



  I'm joking of course.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on July 21, 2020, 03:22:35 PM
Just to add to the fun, I make my wife her coffee in this when we are camping. Pyrex 6 cup perculator


(https://i.ibb.co/g9Wxwxh/K4Lr45Z.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g9Wxwxh)


this is a cool rig
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Muzz on July 22, 2020, 04:16:02 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/PfDDb65x/beaver-espresso-2005-Tichchik-Park.jpg)

That stovetop is exactly like my "everyday" coffee maker.

However, the nicest of the lot is made by my Sunbeam espresso machine.

Although it was the cheapest of the lot and completely manual, Consumer used this model for years as the control as far as taste went for coffee machine as it made the best tasting coffee.

edit: I grind beans to suit, none of this pre-ground stuff (unless it is for my "everyday" coffee.

When my mate Jimmy TwoTanks comes around for coffee he always has two "large" cups; he reckons they are the best and he must know every coffee shop here in Christchurch! :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :drool:
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: bacongrease on July 22, 2020, 08:25:11 AM


   Water,  water.  H2O  more important to me than the coffee bean.  I will not drink the swill at my dad makes .  it stinks,  I would rather go without.
He is used to the water so he sees no problem.  He doesn't make sludge like he did in the past.     :grin:
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on July 22, 2020, 09:13:42 AM

   Water,  water.  H2O  more important to me than the coffee bean.  I will not drink the swill at my dad makes .  it stinks,  I would rather go without.
He is used to the water so he sees no problem.  He doesn't make sludge like he did in the past.     :grin:

Agreed. Just like wine making wine if the water tastes bad and you won't drink it plain flavoring it won't make it better.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Muzz on July 22, 2020, 04:15:43 PM
In Christchurch we are were pretty lucky in that we had water from an aquifer 260 feet down that comes from the Southern Alps.

Then someone up north had contamination  and out government decided that all water must be chlorinated. :sad:  However, our council decide to fight this, upgraded all the bores and in particular the bore heads and have been able to lower the levels.  If we want perfect water we get a 2 litre water container, leave in the sun for a couple of hours (the chlorine turns to hydrochloric acid) and refrigerate for 24 hours. Water is back to perfect; we always have one in the fridge for a hot day when you just want cold water.

Don't bother now doing that for coffee as it is past the stage of being noticeable.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: mechanicsavant on July 23, 2020, 07:01:43 AM
I’ll support the Wally- world purchases for us “budget minded types . My stainless percolator & French press (yes Mr. Coffee makes a French press) were around $20 . If i remember thePerk is a “Martha Stewart”, pinkies out bitches !
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: malik on July 23, 2020, 02:36:11 PM
This is my camping kit -


(https://i.ibb.co/kqgMWKm/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kqgMWKm)


The moka pot is thin stainless (475 g - about the same weight as an equivalent sized aluminium one). Unlike those made for the kitchen stove, the base is thin, so excessive heat can buckle the base, but that's better than high heat boring a hole through aluminium (that happened to a mate's new pot last trip). I prefer heat diffusing metal handles - I've lost lots of plastic handles, melted or burnt. This is a "six cup", which means 2 small cups, or half a mug. Good enough for camping.

The other stuff - roasted beans in the dry bag, hand grinder (morning exercise) kettle & tea leaves for a decent cuppa. I usually take along a couple of small Duralex glasses - coffee seems to taste better in glass - and a collapsible mug for the tea. Works for me.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 13, 2020, 04:16:51 PM
So I decided to get an electric percolator because I despise the Bunn auto drip we have. It makes decent coffee but it is super temperamental and if you load 1 extra grain of coffee in it, it will overflow out of the basket and all over the counter and floor.  I've often told the wife if she ever see's me in the yard whirling the Bunn around by the cord like its the hammer throw it because it spilled over for the last time. 

Decided on the Hamilton Beach 12 cup percolator as it got good reviews and was in stock at the local mega mart. Got the unit home and made a pot of coffee. It was a bit strong so I dialed back the grounds on the next pot. Poured the wife a cup and she took a sip and was hooked. She's not historically been a fan of stove top percolator coffee so this was good. That was Tuesday. Today I took the Bunn off the counter and it'll be on FBMP in the days.


Setup and clean up are a breeze. Pour in water to the 6, 8, 10 or 12 cup mark then spoon in the amount of coffee you want in the basket. Put the basket on the perc rod and cover. Plug in and 12 minutes later you got a piping hot pot of delicious coffee. To clean up simply disassemble dump the grounds in the garden, trash or down the garage disposer (it helps clean and de-stinkify it). Rinse everything with cold water and done.


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Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: LowRyter on August 13, 2020, 05:07:32 PM
Our Bunn works great.  It's the type the preheats the water and makes small 10 cups in about 2 minutes.

Add just a sprinkle of salt in the grounds to kill bitterness.  And sometimes I'll do my old trick and add touch sugar and cinnamon just for a richer black coffee.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 13, 2020, 05:38:26 PM
Our Bunn works great.  It's the type the preheats the water and makes small 10 cups in about 2 minutes.

Add just a sprinkle of salt in the grounds to kill bitterness.  And sometimes I'll do my old trick and add touch sugar and cinnamon just for a richer black coffee.

We have the same/similar Bunn with the heated reservoir of water. Being the reservoir is uninsulated I always wonder how much power it requires to keep the water heated 24/7 for 1 maybe 2 pots a coffee per day?   
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: LowRyter on August 13, 2020, 05:56:10 PM
We have the same/similar Bunn with the heated reservoir of water. Being the reservoir is uninsulated I always wonder how much power it requires to keep the water heated 24/7 for 1 maybe 2 pots a coffee per day?

I've never put a meter on it, so I wouldn't know.  This one needs regular cleaning or it gets constipated.  We've been through so many drip coffee makers that have been awful that we're glad to finally have one that works.  I think we threw away the two or three previous to this one and don't remember so far back to the last one we that worked well.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Lannis on August 14, 2020, 09:19:56 AM
We have the same/similar Bunn with the heated reservoir of water. Being the reservoir is uninsulated I always wonder how much power it requires to keep the water heated 24/7 for 1 maybe 2 pots a coffee per day?

We had one of those for years.   Given that there are heating elements (not electronics or LEDs, but actual resistance heaters) running all day and all night 24/7/365, we began to suspect that the benefit of getting 10 cups of coffee finished in 2 minutes rather than 6 was probably not worth what we were paying in electricity for it, and I'm not sure what that was ....

Lannis
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Perazzimx14 on August 14, 2020, 11:11:54 AM
We had one of those for years.   Given that there are heating elements (not electronics or LEDs, but actual resistance heaters) running all day and all night 24/7/365, we began to suspect that the benefit of getting 10 cups of coffee finished in 2 minutes rather than 6 was probably not worth what we were paying in electricity for it, and I'm not sure what that was ....

Lannis


I imagine it added a few dollars to the power bill each month then the 4 or 5 times a month it's overflow it was the gift that kept on giving. I don't mind not seeing an empty space n the counter where it used to sit. Eve if the percolator ends up being a flash in the pan I'll petition that we go with a cheap drip machine that has no heated retention pond and automatic shutoff.
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: Boynextdoor on July 06, 2021, 05:07:19 AM
I can still remember as a kid, waking up to the smell and sound of my mom's percolator in the kitchen.  I can't stand these KEURIG coffee makers everyone has today, including my wife.  I've tried every brand coffee pod imaginable, Starbucks, Dunkin, Green Mountain, on and on, they all taste awful.  So I found a percolator just like the one my mom & dad had when I was a kid.  A 1960's vintage Sunbeam percolator on ebay.  Made in the good ol USA and still works like a charm.  Good, drinkable coffee.  Sure, the grounds are a little messy, but it is soooo much better that coffee from those little plastic pods!
Oh, God! I still remember my Granny's coffee. High-quality coffee beans(she prefered light roast - White knight or Cameron's(like this (https://www.coffee-statistics.com/best-light-roast-coffee-beans/) one), decent percolator and fresh water - that's the recipe!
 
Title: Re: Broke out the percolator for morning coffee
Post by: dguzzi on July 06, 2021, 07:49:15 AM
  Grandparents used an enameled percolator (red and white) they put an egg white in to trap most sediment, then a strainer as you pour (to catch the egg white).  I was to young to know if it was good tasting or not.