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Title: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SmithSwede on April 09, 2021, 05:22:37 PM
So I finally pulled the trigger on a “new” bike.   

I have owned a 2016 Triumph Street Triple since new, but never bonded with it after 5 years and 25K miles.  It never gave me a bit of trouble, but was frankly boring and uncomfortable for long trips.   Only somewhat fun if you played Racer-Boy on it, so I was pretty sure it would kill me one day. 

The Triumph is now gone.  Replaced with a 1999 BMW F650 Funduro.  A 650 cc thumper with the 19” front spoked wheel and dual sport tires.  Enough luggage space to supply a regiment. 

These early F650s were actually made by Aprilia in Italy.  Thus now all my running bikes are Italian—Guzzi V7, Ducati 900SS, and now my little Funduro. 


(https://i.ibb.co/9Nd9HcH/107-CE4-CA-A677-4-E07-A250-10-AC02905-ABC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9Nd9HcH)
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: flip on April 09, 2021, 05:33:59 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: oldbike54 on April 09, 2021, 05:46:15 PM
 You're gonna hate that thing .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Ncdan on April 09, 2021, 05:47:33 PM
Is parts available?
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: bad Chad on April 09, 2021, 05:56:27 PM
Super dependable from a friend who has had one for (his wife) for years.  She and he, both seemed very happy with it over all.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Muzz on April 09, 2021, 06:50:40 PM
When I was considering my new bike back in 2003 I was looking at the belt drive CS650 Scarver (what a name :rolleyes:).  My wife wanted to get that one but having done over 200,000 miles on nakeds I just could not get used to the headlight always pointing straight ahead.  As I never wanted chains again I went with the Breva, which I would have to say is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden.

I found the CS to be quite good to ride with certainly enough performance to be a capable performer.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 09, 2021, 07:06:34 PM
A buddy (260# and his friend 120# ish) rode a F650 US route 50 coast to coast and back a few years ago. He said it was a bit cramped :grin:

Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on April 09, 2021, 07:09:59 PM
A buddy (260# and his friend 120# ish) rode a F650 US route 50 coast to coast and back a few years ago. He said it was a bit cramped :grin:

Didn't Blaine have two of his (both red) catch fire? Location of the voltage regulator IIRC.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 09, 2021, 07:12:59 PM
Funduro....

Isn't that a popular dish at the Mexican restaurant? :evil:

I'm all in on the wet burritos myself. Not to mention those tasty refreshing adult beverages.

John Henry

I like the Ariana Grande  :grin:
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Gliderjohn on April 09, 2021, 07:43:28 PM
 :thumb:
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: joe-dean on April 09, 2021, 07:49:18 PM
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here is it's cousin aprilia pegaso two carbs five valve head true dual exhaust, I owned this bike for several years great fun
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on April 09, 2021, 08:35:56 PM
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here is it's cousin aprilia pegaso two carbs five valve head true dual exhaust, I owned this bike for several years great fun

I put 9k miles on my brother's. Great fun indeed.

Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SIR REAL ED on April 09, 2021, 09:13:35 PM
So I finally pulled the trigger on a “new” bike.   

I have owned a 2016 Triumph Street Triple since new, but never bonded with it after 5 years and 25K miles.  It never gave me a bit of trouble, but was frankly boring and uncomfortable for long trips.   Only somewhat fun if you played Racer-Boy on it, so I was pretty sure it would kill me one day. 

The Triumph is now gone.  Replaced with a 1999 BMW F650 Funduro.  A 650 cc thumper with the 19” front spoked wheel and dual sport tires.  Enough luggage space to supply a regiment. 

These early F650s were actually made by Aprilia in Italy.  Thus now all my running bikes are Italian—Guzzi V7, Ducati 900SS, and now my little Funduro. 


(https://i.ibb.co/9Nd9HcH/107-CE4-CA-A677-4-E07-A250-10-AC02905-ABC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9Nd9HcH)


You'll love it.... provided the right roads are on your agenda.

The 650 singles are very versatile.  Great platforms for just about any machine you want to create!

Enjoy! 
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: 80CX100 on April 09, 2021, 09:27:21 PM
Congrats on the new bike,

I love big singles, I hate riding into the city/burbs, but when I was forced to a big single was my favorite ride of choice, very nimble and responsive.

I knew that the BMW650 had been made by a few different companies, I didn't realize that Aprillia made them for a few years, was that an engine of their own design and production or one supplied by Rotax?

Wishing you many safe miles and smiles on it.

Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on April 09, 2021, 09:45:15 PM
I knew that the BMW650 had been made by a few different companies, I didn't realize that Aprillia made them for a few years, was that an engine of their own design and production or one supplied by Rotax?

Rotax designed and built during that era.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: LowRyter on April 09, 2021, 09:49:11 PM
I've heard the Street Triple is a pretty nice bike. 

Funduro?  Sounds like fun.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: guzzisteve on April 09, 2021, 11:56:19 PM
You should have bought an Aprilia, they are easier to work on than the Beemer. You have to take less stuff apart. Better engineered all the way around.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on April 10, 2021, 08:31:17 AM
You should have bought an Aprilia, they are easier to work on than the Beemer. You have to take less stuff apart. Better engineered all the way around.

Having worked on my brother's Pegaso more than a few times, I can't imagine how the F650 could be worse.  :shocked:
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Shorty on April 10, 2021, 09:25:10 AM
 :thumb: I always wanted one of those. Nice find!
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: sdcr on April 10, 2021, 10:03:54 AM
Why?

You're gonna hate that thing .

 Dusty
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: delrod on April 10, 2021, 10:09:54 AM
Why?

Mostly because of the grief he will get from us. And the rally atendees letting it fall over in the gravel
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: oldbike54 on April 10, 2021, 10:13:18 AM
Why?

 You would need to have heard the discussions the two of us have had to understand what that meant . I've learned he will do exactly the opposite of what I suggest when it comes to buying motorbikes , telling Swede not to buy something assures he will buy it , and the reverse is also true , although he will still blame me for a bad choice  :grin:

 So it is an inside joke  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: oldbike54 on April 10, 2021, 10:15:45 AM
Mostly because of the grief he will get from us. And the rally atendees letting it fall over in the gravel

 And this also  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SmithSwede on April 10, 2021, 01:36:30 PM
Well, Thumper and I have already had a bonding experience.   Ran out of gas riding home last night in the dark and rain.  Fortunately I was about 500 yards from a gas station. 

Somebody needs to get used to those old fashioned fuel petcocks.  I think I had it set to RESERVE.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: PJPR01 on April 10, 2021, 02:58:04 PM
There’s a funny story on ADV about a guy who just bought a BMW Prescott and apparently the fuel strips are faulty and misleading.  Does yours have fuel strips?

PS...only Ducatis are allowed to fall over at the rally, but only if there are a minimum of 10 people standing around to witness the event!
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 10, 2021, 03:02:02 PM
There’s a funny story on ADV about a guy who just bought a BMW Prescott and apparently the fuel strips are faulty and misleading.  Does yours have fuel strips?

PS...only Ducatis are allowed to fall over at the rally, but only if there are a minimum of 10 people standing around to witness the event!

There is a spam of from around 2004 thru 2009ish where fuel strips were used in the RT and GS/GSA fuell cells (possibly others). They are know to fail. In fact BMW did a 9 year extended warranty on them.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SmithSwede on April 10, 2021, 03:05:37 PM
 Nope.  No fuel strips.   Just a basic petcock.  Like all my bikes from the 70s.

Some of you whippersnappers are probably too young to know what a fuel tank petcock is. 
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: oldbike54 on April 10, 2021, 03:15:44 PM
Nope.  No fuel strips.   Just a basic petcock.  Like all my bikes from the 70s.

Some of you whippersnappers are probably too young to know what a fuel tank petcock is.

 Are ya sure that thing isn't a BSA ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: chuck peterson on April 11, 2021, 06:02:09 AM
I’ve been wondering about those..pop up pretty frequently for a modest price considering the quality

https://vermont.craigslist.org/mcy/d/south-hero-2003-bmw-f650-gs-low-mileage/7304653506.html


(https://i.ibb.co/9pWMwXX/81-D77-DB3-C397-47-A2-9-A2-F-58-D140-A83681.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9pWMwXX)
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: Anomaly on April 11, 2021, 07:50:46 PM
Funny, that bonding thing. I just sold my 1998 F650 Funduro and bought my new-to-me 2012 V7 Classic with the proceeds. I never bonded with the F650 in the way I instantly did with the V7. But, the F650 was a GREAT bike. The Rotax engine was a marvel. Gotta love that thumper torque. My son and I bought it together, and I rode it from Rhode Island to Minneapolis where I put it in a rental storage unit, flew to Seattle, gave my son the keys to the bike and the storage unit and a mileage airplane ticket to Minneapolis and he rode it the rest of the way to WA state. That bike just pulled and pulled and pulled but for some reason, I just never bonded to/with it. My son kept it for a few years and then sold it back to me and I had it trucked back to me in RI. Then I sold it and bought the Guzzi...

My only advice is don't let the carbs gunk up with old fuel....(ask me how I know), aside from that, I think you'll love it
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SIR REAL ED on April 11, 2021, 08:28:39 PM
So I finally pulled the trigger on a “new” bike.   

I have owned a 2016 Triumph Street Triple since new, but never bonded with it after 5 years and 25K miles.  It never gave me a bit of trouble, but was frankly boring and uncomfortable for long trips.   Only somewhat fun if you played Racer-Boy on it, so I was pretty sure it would kill me one day. 

The Triumph is now gone.  Replaced with a 1999 BMW F650 Funduro.  A 650 cc thumper with the 19” front spoked wheel and dual sport tires.  Enough luggage space to supply a regiment. 

These early F650s were actually made by Aprilia in Italy.  Thus now all my running bikes are Italian—Guzzi V7, Ducati 900SS, and now my little Funduro. 


(https://i.ibb.co/9Nd9HcH/107-CE4-CA-A677-4-E07-A250-10-AC02905-ABC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9Nd9HcH)


You sir are inspirational.  I had to do something similar today!  Looks like an Italian paint job at the minimum....

Thank you for your leadership!



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(https://i.ibb.co/84LkPnL/XL600-RIGHT.jpg) (https://ibb.co/84LkPnL)
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SmithSwede on April 11, 2021, 08:37:57 PM
Very nice, Sir Ed.  Looks like fun. What is that thing?

Anomaly.   (What a great screen name). Thanks for the info.  Currently my Moto Guzzi V7 is my favorite bike, but I must say the Funduro is growing on me.  Totally different experience of course.   Fantastic gas mileage for one thing
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SIR REAL ED on April 11, 2021, 10:16:35 PM
Very nice, Sir Ed.  Looks like fun. What is that thing?

Anomaly.   (What a great screen name). Thanks for the info.  Currently my Moto Guzzi V7 is my favorite bike, but I must say the Funduro is growing on me.  Totally different experience of course.   Fantastic gas mileage for one thing

1986 Honda XL600R.  Single cylinder, two carbs, kick start.  5600 miles.

LOTS OF PATINA!

Way back in the early 80's I remember an author, from Cycle Magazine I think writing that he had two bikes.  A Yamaha SR500 Single, and a Yamaha XV920RH V-Twin.  He said I jump on the one that I did not ride the last time, and each time it is like Christmas morning.

Yeah, even the Suzuki DR650 and the KTM Duke 690 are totally different beasts.  Both are good on the same roads, but they are like two different drugs.
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SmithSwede on April 11, 2021, 11:04:05 PM
The F650 is similar.  Single cylinder 4 valve head with two carbs.  Each carb feeds its own intake valve.  Not sure I understand why it’s done that way. 

2 spark plugs as well. 
Title: Re: Swede’s New Italian Bike
Post by: SIR REAL ED on April 11, 2021, 11:12:43 PM
The F650 is similar.  Single cylinder 4 valve head with two carbs.  Each carb feeds its own intake valve.  Not sure I understand why it’s done that way. 

2 spark plugs as well.

I think that was a bit of a fad back in the day.  Honda and Yamaha both had several models that were like that.  I think it was an attempt to get both better gas mileage and better performance out of a single cylinder motorcycle.

I had a 1984 Honda XL350R with the dual carbs.  Putting around Forestry Service roads and VA back roads with my wife on her 1976 Kawasaki KE175, it was not at all usual for me to get 110-120 miles per gallon.  Yeah, I know, sounds like BS.  Thought the same myself, but numbers don't lie.  4 or 5 hours of riding totaling 120 miles or so, got that kind of mileage.  I guess the second carb never opened up while we were riding.