Wildgoose Chase Moto Guzzi

General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: hughtwg on February 05, 2015, 01:37:44 PM

Title: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: hughtwg on February 05, 2015, 01:37:44 PM
I'm thinking of having a friend build me a Guzzi Cafe Racer. I was hoping the forum could give me some pointers on which models would make a good starting point and which should be avoided.

Also if anyone knows of a good donor east of the Mississippi please let me know.

Here is the page for my buddies moto business: https://www.facebook.com/Motorelic

thanks,
Hugh
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 05, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
Hamilton, VA? About 20 miles from me.

Definitely do not use a V700, Ambassador or Eldorado.  ;)
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: rodekyll on February 05, 2015, 02:04:24 PM
Use any non-Convert version of the early (short wheelbase) Tonti frame.  Add engine of choice (850 - 1100 BB), and the obligatory sameness of café racers, and you're there.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Vasco DG on February 05, 2015, 03:12:09 PM
Here is a suitable turd to ruin. No one will care if you chop up this great chunk 'o munt.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GS-1978-suzuki-gs-400-x-/261758336360?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3cf2033d68&item=261758336360&pt=US_motorcycles

Please don't destroy a perfectly good Guzzi.

Pete
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: charlie b on February 05, 2015, 05:32:55 PM
Search around and be patient.  A 'barn bike' shows up every now and then that would make a decent donor for any type project.

Like RK said, look for an early Tonti bike.  They have the type frame that cafe folks like.

I would say to please not mess up a good speciman, but seeing what I've done to a perfectly good T5 would make a lot of people weep  :)
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Perazzimx14 on February 05, 2015, 06:18:33 PM
A Breva 750 or a V7 classic or a 90's + Tonti. Leave the Loops and pre 1990's Tonti's alone.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 05, 2015, 06:30:38 PM
Hugh, as you may have noticed, Vasco dosen't care for cafe racers.  ;D :BEER: In my opinion, the T is perfect. It has that cool looking rear drive/drum brake. Single disc front end that says, "old timey" but will actually stop.
Don't cut up any loops, V7 sports  :o Lemans of any kind, including the 4/5 scale Lemans, the Lario. Other than that, I'd think you're good to go. I don't think *any* of the injected bikes are suitable. YMMV, of course..
Edit for typo..
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Travman on February 05, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
I think the CX500/650 and the GL500/650 make some mighty fine café racers and streetfighters.

(http://kickstart.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/cx500-cafe-racer-1-625x417.jpg)

http://www.bikeexif.com/cx500-cafe-racer#more-19258
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: HDGoose on February 05, 2015, 07:42:18 PM
Next year I hope to make a Millie out of my Cali 1100i. After I get another long distance bike of some flavor.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: JoeW on February 05, 2015, 08:01:12 PM
I would think an 850T or T3 would be good base bikes. You can find them around especially floor board model T3s. I have 2 suitable bikes if you're interested. I'll be picking up a couple bikes on Delaware in March, I could bring one with me.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: arveno on February 05, 2015, 10:21:11 PM
First question is about  bike budget .

these days cafe races are all the same ( even tho they all wanted to be different from the crowd ...ohh well )

Bike budget : ?

go on MGcycle.com and get these parts

Rear set
V7sport/le mans know off replica gas tank.
Semi handlebars
Mufflers
mono seat

u good to go...

Have fun !


Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: NCAmother on February 05, 2015, 10:25:32 PM
I'm thinking of having a friend build me a Guzzi Cafe Racer. I was hoping the forum could give me some pointers on which models would make a good starting point and which should be avoided.

Also if anyone knows of a good donor east of the Mississippi please let me know.

Here is the page for my buddies moto business: https://www.facebook.com/Motorelic

thanks,
Hugh

Hi Hugh.  Here's a link to a really cool T3 cafe racer.  http://www.bikeexif.com/custom-moto-guzzi-850    I'm pretty ignorant though, in my eyes this looks gorgeous
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: kevdog3019 on February 06, 2015, 05:45:25 AM
First question is about  bike budget .

these days cafe races are all the same ( even tho they all wanted to be different from the crowd ...ohh well )

Bike budget : ?

go on MGcycle.com and get these parts

Rear set
V7sport/le mans know off replica gas tank.
Semi handlebars
Mufflers
mono seat

u good to go...

Have fun !




I think that's pretty ignorant to say all cafe's look the same. It's a style like any style and it sounds like it's simply stale for you. This generalization is getting stale to me.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: arveno on February 06, 2015, 07:11:04 AM
I think that's pretty ignorant to say all cafe's look the same. It's a style like any style and it sounds like it's simply stale for you. This generalization is getting stale to me.


To me they are all the same , whether you like it or not .
But hey if you don't like what i say please use the " IGNORE" button , is there for a reason.

 :BEER:
ciao
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: kevdog3019 on February 06, 2015, 08:08:29 AM

To me they are all the same , whether you like it or not .
But hey if you don't like what i say please use the " IGNORE" button , is there for a reason.

 :BEER:
ciao

All you NY'ers are the same.  :P ;)

Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: arveno on February 06, 2015, 08:38:23 AM
All you NY'ers are the same.  :P ;)



LOL ! i guess....even tho i am straight of the boat from Milan....but i know what you mean, hey it must be the polluted air and the nasty weather  ;D

Going back to the OP , i was just giving him a quick hint on what to do, thats what i did with mine 1000SP too nothing wrong with it , and i would add that to do those modifications he could try to do it himself saving money from the labor.
Swapping tank/seat/fenders and pipes etc is not that difficult and this forum is here to help .

I miss spring time .... :-\
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: kevdog3019 on February 06, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
I meant no offense Arveno, just that there've been so many "bashing" threads lately regarding mods and some are jumping to the extreme in suspecting the worst. It is rue that there are hack jobs being committed no doubt. I think those images get burned into our memory more than the good ones. Fortunately some are taking an otherwise parts bike and turning them into a delicious runner. In the process they sell decent parts to others for their restorations. We must not forget this aspect. I for one am doing this with mine; others benefit. I'm keeping mine forever since there's $$ into it I won't get out, but it's what I want so no need to sell... win/win. I'm all for making something yours if you're planning on keeping it to ride and improving it for your own good. Cutting something willy nilly is a waiste and poor art form. Function is often overlooked in these cases.
As cafes fade to scramblers they will get their lusting until the next fad; they too will get their thrashing come time.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: hughtwg on February 06, 2015, 10:07:17 AM
Thanks for the responses. I don't plan or want to chop up a pristine Guzzi.  My buddy who builds these things usually starts off with barn finds that rarely cost him anything. He already build a CX500 and it was seeing the CX500 that Travman posted that makes me want to do this.

My budget for the donor is $3k. Less is better.

I'll read up on Tonti framed bikes and will keep everyone up on any progress (even the haters :D) .

Thanks,
Hugh
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: blackcat on February 06, 2015, 10:30:10 AM
I always thought the CX was the easiest bike to "cafe" as it really doesn't change that much except for some rear sets and a rearrangement of the clock holders. No cutting, welding,etc. and it could be put back to stock if they ever became collectible which I highly doubt, but who knows.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r317/blackkat-1/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0476_zps3b1yijrl.jpg)
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: arveno on February 06, 2015, 11:24:14 AM
Kev , I know you did not mean to disrespect , i did not take it that way .... and i agree with you regarding the whole cafe racer bashing etc.

 :BEER:

Hey Hugh , 3 k for a donor bike is a lot of money , you can find a good running guzzi and you only have to do few mods and u will be good to go .
If i were you i will stay away from super cheap bike because in the end you will put more money , well over 3 k.
Will be best buying a square head , so you dont have to deal with chrome bores and they are already pretty fast and they come with 36mm carbs.

If you like round heads better , keep in mind that if the bike got original cylinders you have to spend a good 1k $ to replace them .

My advice is to look for the best bike your money can buy...and u will only have to focus on " aesthetic modification "

Keep us posted on the progress.

ciao !


this one looks like a good candidate ;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-1998-custom-moto-guzzi-cafe-motorcycle-/131422618299?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e996602bb&item=131422618299&pt=US_motorcycles
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on February 06, 2015, 11:32:03 AM

Will be best buying a square head , so you dont have to deal with chrome bores and they are already pretty fast and they come with 36mm carbs.

If you like round heads better , keep in mind that if the bike got original cylinders you have to spend a good 1k $ to replace them .


Not true. The Le Mans 850, Convert, CX100, G5, SP1000 all have iron liners in early years and Nikasil in later years. 850-T/T3 do have chrome bores though. Also, not all of the "square fin" models came with 36 mm carbs, most came with 30s. 
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: blackcat on February 06, 2015, 01:01:19 PM

this one looks like a good candidate ;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-1998-custom-moto-guzzi-cafe-motorcycle-/131422618299?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e996602bb&item=131422618299&pt=US_motorcycles

That would be good, especially at that price.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: steven c on February 06, 2015, 01:13:07 PM
 I kind of like that. Sportster Tank?
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: father guzzi obrian on February 06, 2015, 02:09:28 PM
Here is a suitable turd to ruin. No one will care if you chop up this great chunk 'o munt.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GS-1978-suzuki-gs-400-x-/261758336360?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3cf2033d68&item=261758336360&pt=US_motorcycles

Please don't destroy a perfectly good Guzzi.

Pete

Hi Pete,
For that kind of money, you can get a Japanese 4 cylinder of the same vintage and likely better condition. The twin Suzuki's were not very notable and with the mileage it has on it, its close to sacked anyway.  There are plenty of butt ugly early jap cruisers that could be cafe'd easily, and the 4 cylinder lot or the triple yamaha's were dead reliable once you clean the carbs and sort out the wiring corrosion... Just sayin
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: rodekyll on February 06, 2015, 02:16:02 PM
Face it, guys -- there is only a few way to draw a horizontal, straight line.   **C     :BEER:


Here's a cut-n-paste RE: possible donor from a correspondent on Whidby Island, WA.  She says it's from Craig's list:

Totaled Honda Goldwing. Hit a deer.
For parts or you repair. Hit a deer.
We’re fine, but the Wing is pretty much totaled.  Hit a deer.
Has brand-new tires, brakes, performance Compufire alternator, and Compufire performance battery with less than 1,000 miles on all. Engine is fine as well as transmission with 96,000 miles. Always garaged & still is. One radiator is good, the other non-useable. The fairing and support frame are toast.  Hit a deer.  We have an extra stock windscreen in perfect condition, Corbin seat, luggage liners, trunk bag, and more.


Asking $1,500
Will NOT part out.  I didn't hit the deer that hard.


We can deliver on South Whidbey free
or elsewhere for gas/ferry expenses.


Please call Roger at:
(425) 244-3593


I can testify to the completely out-of-control deer population on Whidby.  They have roadkill in controlled intersections.  They have roadkill in cul-d-sacs.  Whatthey don't seem to have is a hunting season.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: steven c on February 06, 2015, 02:31:21 PM
 I have a Cal 2 that would be a good project. Already non stock.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Penderic on February 06, 2015, 02:46:23 PM
Oy! You are gonna need to immerse and synchronize the various components with the proper vibes.....
(http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/ag77/Penderic/Cafe-Italia-75-Original-Italian-Classics-3-CD_zpshbmklodg.jpg)
 :D
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Petrus Rocks on February 06, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
Each to their own.  I like cafe racers-it's what I lusted out after when i was young...
Just because it's a style doesn't mean there aren't good things about it.  I'm biased of course.

I have an '85 Cali I'm working on as a cafe platform.  I think any older Guzzis with triple discs area great platform- rescue them from obscurity.

As was previously stated, change out the tank, seat, bars fool around with the footpegs and add some performance and handling mods and you have your own version.
I like the older bikes because they are a lot of fun slower.  You can modify them to work better, and you have something of your own.  Half the fun is solving the various problems with a build and making stuff.
 
Oh, the stock Cali II- now that's a turd to me. But hey...  what Pender said!  you want "que bella motorina"
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: arveno on February 06, 2015, 04:21:46 PM
Not true. The Le Mans 850, Convert, CX100, G5, SP1000 all have iron liners in early years and Nikasil in later years. 850-T/T3 do have chrome bores though. Also, not all of the "square fin" models came with 36 mm carbs, most came with 30s. 


 :+1 :+1

absolutely correct , sorry my bad for giving wrong information.. i totally forgot about the late round heads.
And i thought the SP2 3 and 850T5 , Mille etc came with 36mm carbs but i guess i am wrong.
sorry again
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: blackcat on February 06, 2015, 05:15:55 PM
My 1981 CX had iron cylinders and the speedo was in kilometers so there are no guarantee's in what you might get.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Turin on February 06, 2015, 06:35:57 PM
I'm with Blackcat and Averno on this one
[url http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-1998-custom-moto-guzzi-cafe-motorcycle-/131422618299?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e996602bb&item=131422618299&pt=US_motorcycles[/url]

Heck, it already has clip ons. That is a rear fender and a gas tank away from being something more sporty.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: guzzista on February 07, 2015, 01:08:32 PM
Have lurked on this one for a bit but now here my 2cts. Starting with the preface that one can do anything with a motorcycle they own, wether others like or not. With that said , it would be a shame to butcher some, especially Loops.  To me, an important point  is that Moto Guzzi set the aesthetics bar pretty darn high when they built their sporting  bikes ( V7 sport 750S/ 3, LM1, 2, 3 etc) so no matter what  hipster trends may be at this time, anyone considering a cafe  should reckon that. ( Galluzzi, Terblanche , Rossopuro et al certainly have done that when designing new bikes). With that said and done, the rest is subjective.  
Title: Re:
Post by: hughtwg on February 07, 2015, 04:04:43 PM
I'd consider the bike in Dallas if it was closer.  That bike certainly needs some love. I'm also looking at newer bikes with salvage titles.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Dimples on February 07, 2015, 06:51:02 PM

In my opinion the most overlooked and undervalued Moto Guzzi motorcycles out here are the spine-framed Sport 1100's (and therefore suitable donors).

I don't see that your guy is "up to" this build caliber yet, but here's a recent custom project on that platform for inspiration. Everything that Mike Rich has to offer, plus Charlie Cole gearing and a proprietary carbon fiber fuel tank!

This is 372 lb. Guzzi that sounds more like a Ducati with its advanced cam. For the inside story PM me.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG-20150117-01196_zpsda650153.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG-20150117-01196_zpsda650153.jpg.html)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG-20150118-01207_zps78785133.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG-20150118-01207_zps78785133.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: NC Steve on February 07, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
A buddy of mine built this from an old G5.
It's been an award at Barber, but is not just a show bike; it gets ridden hard,regularly


(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/steve2371/scooter%20pics/ed5b3c37.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/steve2371/media/scooter%20pics/ed5b3c37.jpg.html)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/steve2371/scooter%20pics/259c1474.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/steve2371/media/scooter%20pics/259c1474.jpg.html)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/steve2371/scooter%20pics/5510451b.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/steve2371/media/scooter%20pics/5510451b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 08, 2015, 05:39:32 AM
Well, I take back my statement that I didn't think any injected Guzzis were suitable..  ;D That top triple looks pretty wimpy, though. I still wouldn't cut up a V11S. <shrug>
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG-20150117-01196_zpsda650153.jpg)
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Dimples on February 08, 2015, 06:55:58 AM
Well, I take back my statement that I didn't think any injected Guzzis were suitable..  ;D That top triple looks pretty wimpy, though. I still wouldn't cut up a V11S. <shrug>
(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG-20150117-01196_zpsda650153.jpg)

Chuck, the donor for this bike was a 1996 Sport 1100 carb.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: charlie b on February 08, 2015, 08:05:20 AM
This is where personal taste comes in.  I don't like the spine frame job, but I like the black one.  Two things to me.  I have neverliked the "a$$ in the air" look and the black one doen't have clip ons which I think makes it look better.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 08, 2015, 08:09:30 AM
So, did you do it? Is that top triple just lightened and painted black in the cutouts or cut completely out?? For some reason I thought it was a VllS that had been converted to carbs. Looks like it would be a hoot to ride..
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Dimples on February 08, 2015, 11:10:01 AM
So, did you do it? Is that top triple just lightened and painted black in the cutouts or cut completely out?? For some reason I thought it was a VllS that had been converted to carbs. Looks like it would be a hoot to ride..

No, that's not mine. Was recently built in Miami. The top triple was made by Speedy Moto and the bottom clamp is a Ducati piece. Many lightweight components to get down to 372 pounds.

Builder's site: http://www.moto-studio.com/index.html
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: NCAmother on February 08, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
No, that's not mine. Was recently built in Miami. The top triple was made by Speedy Moto and the bottom clamp is a Ducati piece. Many lightweight components to get down to 372 pounds.

Builder's site: http://www.moto-studio.com/index.html
What a great site!
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Petrus Rocks on February 08, 2015, 12:03:13 PM
That's some high quality work.  I really like the black G5.  Tasty mods with a realistic posture for plenty of riding.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: redrider90 on February 08, 2015, 01:09:15 PM
I'm with Blackcat and Averno on this one
[url http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-1998-custom-moto-guzzi-cafe-motorcycle-/131422618299?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1e996602bb&item=131422618299&pt=US_motorcycles[/url]

Heck, it already has clip ons. That is a rear fender and a gas tank away from being something more sporty.


I never trust a bike that has easily sorted out problems like this one. "timing needs to be set...... 30-60 minutes at most and carbs need to be jetted 2-3 hours with complete take down of carbs.   OK we are supposed to believe that is why it  runs crappy. And I say what are you trying to hide? Fix it and then sell it as is . Of course you probably cannot hear the motor because of those loud pipes and that is probably why it needs to be jetted. But then again it is a no reserve sale.... so maybe someone gets lucky for $1200 out the door. 
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: guzzista on February 08, 2015, 07:17:36 PM
Just  CL link for what appears to be a  Cali 3. No relation to seller, just passing it along. http://newyork.craigslist.org/brx/mcy/4882710972.html
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: hughtwg on February 12, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
Do all models of Guzzis for a given year have the same frames? A few folks have recommended the California model which seem to be pretty plentiful but I would think a cruiserish bike wouldn't make a good donor if it has a cruiser frame.

Thanks,
Hugh
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on February 12, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
There are some differences, but basically, a Tonti frame is a Tonti frame.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Triple Jim on February 12, 2015, 01:50:24 PM
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/steve2371/scooter%20pics/5510451b.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/steve2371/media/scooter%20pics/5510451b.jpg.html)

Is that a wallet under the side stand?
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: rodekyll on February 12, 2015, 03:02:16 PM
Within the short wheelbase and long wheelbase cutoffs, different model tonti frames have minor differences.  The Convert has unique tabs for the cooler and atf tank.  The SP has its own tabs for the plastiwork.  I suspect the Lemans also has some exclusive stuff.  But AFAIK that's the level of difference. Other models could have other little variances.  But the basic wheelbase, tube layout, engine mounts, etc are identical, as long as you're talking about either short wheelbase or long wheelbase models.  Mix up your swb/lwb and the differences become huge.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: charlie b on February 12, 2015, 07:51:45 PM
Isn't the only difference in wheelbase in the swingarm, ie, could you change a LWB to SWB by changing the swingarm?

Wasn't there some subtle difference in the steering head between models?

Does Guzziology list all the differences?
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: rodekyll on February 12, 2015, 08:10:04 PM
No, the horizontal tail bars are also longer and I think the shock mount location is different.  There is also some extra mount brackets on my LWB frames that hang the transmission at those four top bolt holes and a bracket for the seat release. Forgot that earlier.  I suppose the tranny hanger would allow a guy to eliminate the lower rails, if he trusted the rear mounting to four shallow 8mm bolts. 

Yes, the steering head is taller.  So there's no drop-in for older trees.  That difference raises the handlebar relative to the seat.

The LWB models also have different lower frame rails than the earlier ones that include a lower cross brace.  But lower rails have all sorts of nuance differences, even among swb and lwb, so that's sort of a different topic.

Was any of that topical?
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: charlie b on February 12, 2015, 08:53:54 PM
I think all would be important for a choice of cafe frame.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: LowRyter on February 13, 2015, 11:16:55 AM
In my opinion the most overlooked and undervalued Moto Guzzi motorcycles out here are the spine-framed Sport 1100's (and therefore suitable donors).

I don't see that your guy is "up to" this build caliber yet, but here's a recent custom project on that platform for inspiration. Everything that Mike Rich has to offer, plus Charlie Cole gearing and a proprietary carbon fiber fuel tank!

This is 372 lb. Guzzi that sounds more like a Ducati with its advanced cam. For the inside story PM me.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG-20150117-01196_zpsda650153.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG-20150117-01196_zpsda650153.jpg.html)

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG-20150118-01207_zps78785133.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG-20150118-01207_zps78785133.jpg.html)

oh boy.  

bet my Greenie would sing with that motor.
Title: Re: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: hughtwg on February 13, 2015, 01:17:01 PM
<snip>

Was any of that topical?

That was very informative. Thanks.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: dibble on February 13, 2015, 01:36:03 PM
Quote
I always thought the CX was the easiest bike to "cafe" as it really doesn't change that much except for some rear sets and a rearrangement of the clock holders. No cutting, welding,etc. and it could be put back to stock if they ever became collectible which I highly doubt, but who knows.

I've seen CX500s advertised at £6.5k so I guess they are now collectable......
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: NC Steve on February 13, 2015, 03:53:48 PM
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/steve2371/scooter%20pics/5510451b.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/steve2371/media/scooter%20pics/5510451b.jpg.html)

Is that a wallet under the side stand?

Probably, I think he pretty much emptied it building the bike  ;-T
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Dimples on February 13, 2015, 06:30:25 PM

Here's a current Tonti framed project from the same Miami shop (Moto-Studio). It's another light-weight bike using their carbon fiber fuel tank, etc.

(http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad123/osteoglossum/IMG-20150206-01238_zps8f2cd738.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/osteoglossum/media/IMG-20150206-01238_zps8f2cd738.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: dilligaf on February 14, 2015, 06:57:40 AM
 :(   :BEER:
Matt
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: Triple Jim on February 14, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
Probably, I think he pretty much emptied it building the bike  ;-T

It appears to have been worth it.
Title: Re: Donors for a a Cafe Build
Post by: NC Steve on February 14, 2015, 04:06:32 PM
It appears to have been worth it.

There is more meticulous detail and custom parts in the bike that you can ever see here.
Every piece has been polished, modified, or hand built, and the mechanicals thoroughly gone thru.

This is one of the proverbial "pictures don't do it justice" situations.
It has also been taken on several 1000 mile journeys, and is definitely a runner.