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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2013, 10:23:52 AM »
Wonder how Peter Green feels about the obvious rip off of his song ?
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2013, 10:31:16 AM »

Glad a company like Polaris picked up the brand and is actually doing something with it!

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Me too.  Polaris has demonstrated they (i) know how to build bikes from the ground up, and (ii) have deep enough pockets to do it right, and (iii) do it at a price where people will actually buy and use them.  Indian's recent sordid past shows that you need to be able hit all 3 of those targets, cause there's no partial credit.

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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2013, 11:27:44 AM »
I see a bit of floorboards and they look positioned really far forward.

A super duper laid back cruiser? Going after the Harley Davidison market? If so they will have to have a HUGE marketing campaign!

Showtime!

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2013, 11:48:23 AM »
I see a bit of floorboards and they look positioned really far forward.



OMFG not this crap again.

I seem to remember the curmudgeon brigade saying the same crap about the new Cali and they were completely wrong.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
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« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2013, 12:11:15 PM »
Polaris is first class in every regard.  The price point is very competitve. With their new engine and classic looks, this bike will have many standing in line to get one.

When the Indian is delivered in Houston, I intend to go look.  The big cruiser market has needed serious competition, and Indian has the cred.

This weekend I may ride up to MPH to drool at a Cali.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2013, 12:15:01 PM »
Looking good.  Pricing is right where it should be and what they told us in Daytona.  Quality of design, fit and finish of what I saw with the 111 motor is superb.  Looks like that's carrying over to the bike.  No H-D clone here either.  I just hope they dont "Arlen Ness" the bike and make it too funky.  Classic Indian lines and themes are there for the taking and will sell bikes if they use it.

This type of bike may not be right for everybody but this will be good for many folks, even H-D riders.  The breed is improved through competition. I expect the 110 to be worked down into the H-D Touring line pretty soon.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2013, 12:32:10 PM »
OK, I am stating the obvious , but this is not an Indian , no heritage , no history . Polaris is a wonderful company , fine products , but they are not the Hendee Manufacturing ,co. builders of the Indian Motocycle ,no R . I hope Polaris can sell these , but marketing the heritage is ,well , marketing .
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They bought the rights...sooo who the Duc cares?

To some extent the same argument can be made for Triumph, Guzzi, Duc, Harley, etc
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« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2013, 01:03:23 PM »
OK, I am stating the obvious , but this is not an Indian , no heritage , no history . Polaris is a wonderful company , fine products , but they are not the Hendee Manufacturing ,co. builders of the Indian Motocycle ,no R . I hope Polaris can sell these , but marketing the heritage is ,well , marketing .
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lol

Pot calling the kettle black.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2013, 01:39:11 PM »
Penderic , someone is gonna make money on this , huh.

Advertising and Marketing, for sure!  ;)

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2013, 02:12:57 PM »
Dude , don't start this again , everyone already knows you think I am the stupidest person who ever lived , give it a rest .
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Give what a rest?

I found it funny that ANYONE would say that about Indian on a forum for a motorcycle company that was bought out, has a new parent company, and now finally being given the attention it needed. Really the same story as Indian, other than Polaris has it a bit easier with their brand history and their already HUGE dealer network.




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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2013, 03:05:58 PM »
Here's a pic of one taken at the Laughlin River Run 2013, NV.  They had several beautiful Indians but they looked quite big.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2013, 03:50:58 PM »
 :+=copcar  OH-WHAT WEIGHT OIL DOES THIS TAKE ??? ??? :BEER: :BEER: :BEER:

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2013, 03:54:50 PM »
That's neither the new motor or new bike....
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2013, 04:13:25 PM »
To some extent the same argument can be made for Triumph, Guzzi, Duc, Harley, etc



lol

Pot calling the kettle black.

I suppose, the big distinction with HD, Ducati, and Guzzi vs Indian, Norton, etc. is that they've been in business continually and still occupy thier original factories.  (though HD has grown well beyond Milwaukee).

Polaris is getting ready to knock a home run with Indian.  So, despite no ties to Springfield, the brand has an identity and will be successful on its own level with the Polaris clout behind it.
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2013, 04:23:53 PM »
I guess it's warm and fuzzy to have continuous operation, but honestly, what does it REALLY matter.

Polaris is trying to market a Harley competitor, with modern components, a new proprietary motor, and styling cues that harken back to the hay days of this formerly great name.

What's the down side?
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2013, 04:33:26 PM »
I think it would be seriously cool if they built another air cooled inline four, sitting inline with the frame of the bike.  I witnessed an Indian four running a few months back, man what a sweet design!  ;-T One can only wish....I doubt it will ever happen.
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2013, 05:18:30 PM »
Considering Polaris' reputation and track record, why would anyone expect something other than a quality, competitive product.

Once again, I don't understand the negativity or hand wringing.
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2013, 05:38:44 PM »
KevM , if you will read my earlier posts I stated that Polaris will probably build a quality product and that I greatly respect what they have already accomplished. My discomfort sets in with the marketing of history and tradition , kind of like McDs intimating they invented the hamburger or that HD invented the MC. Marketing BS is still BS .


I see, and I think most people of reasonable intelligence, see marketing for what it is...entertainment at best or a nuisance at worst.

I've never seen Mcd claim it invented the burger nor HD lay claim to the history of the MC.

What Harley DOES claim is a consistency of design/style.

Which is what Indian will likely market.

But at the end of the day marketing is still BS, what matters is the product.

And THAT is what I'm excited about...the choice of another product.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2013, 05:55:29 PM »
You're starting to drift from marketing to history...

That said, don't you ride a Jackal? Don't assume they'll never make something for you.
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2013, 06:28:06 PM »
Yeah, it's all good, but I still don't buy your examples...
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #50 on: May 14, 2013, 06:32:25 PM »
I'm a wee bit confused. On the Indian Motorcycle website they have several models, one pushing $40K and most well above $25K and with what appears to be S&S motors. Is this old stock from a previous manufacturing run or what?
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #51 on: May 14, 2013, 06:36:12 PM »
I'm a wee bit confused. On the Indian Motorcycle website they have several models, one pushing $40K and most well above $25K and with what appears to be S&S motors. Is this old stock from a previous manufacturing run or what?

Yes, old stock. Nothing to do with new motor that was shown recently or new models.
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #52 on: May 14, 2013, 06:52:15 PM »
Yes, old stock. Nothing to do with new motor that was shown recently or new models.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #53 on: May 14, 2013, 06:53:37 PM »


Polaris is trying to market a Harley competitor, with modern components, a new proprietary motor, and styling cues that harken back to the hay days of this formerly great name.

What's the down side?

I can't really think of one at this point.

I wish they'd buy Norton next!
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #54 on: May 14, 2013, 08:43:30 PM »
"Choice is coming to American motorcycles"

That's the new Indian marketing slogan.  It was plastered all over Daytona during Bike Week.

I find it interesting that the parent company of Victory is basically addmitting that Victory apparently never offered a "choice."

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2013, 08:44:40 PM »
Here's a pic of one taken at the Laughlin River Run 2013, NV.  They had several beautiful Indians but they looked quite big.



That's the old Harley-clone Indian.

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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2013, 08:48:53 PM »
Wonder how Peter Green feels about the obvious rip off of his song ?
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« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2013, 08:51:25 PM »
Thanks gentlemen. New motor is going to really improve the looks of those bikes.
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2013, 09:00:31 PM »
It's not something that I would consider but I am surprised that this bike is less thank $30k looking at the engine & surrounding hype.
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Re: The New Indian Chief Thunder Stroke 111 merged threadfest
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2013, 09:04:07 PM »
It's not something that I would consider but I am surprised that this bike is less thank $30k looking at the engine & surrounding hype.

Why the surprise?

I think the past Indian attempts made it clear they weren't going to make it on a boutique bike/price.

Like the Cali, they realize it needs to be competitive.
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