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Strange.My wife and I went on a weekend camping trip this past few days. Non stop rain, 50 km of snot-slick dirt road, and 1000 km of pavement... and on the home stretch the stock V7 Special did 170 km/h on level ground even! Is it a crotch rocket? No, but I had wanted a crotch rocket, I'd have bought one. Where and how are you guys riding that so many of you heap so much derision on this bike? "Cracks the ton downhill"... "only reaches 180 when thrown off a cliff", "mini-bike from Italy", I don't get it. Ehh, whatever. I don't understand this common trait of V7 owners needing to insult the bike as though a) it's something it's not and B) shitting on what it is.
I have a lot of respect for Ed and what he has achieved but like the 8V getting a lot more power out of a smallblock heron header is very difficult. Both designs are limited by the laws of physics. Anyone who is claiming to be able to change those is clearly an idiot! The thing is idiots are easily gulled. (Shrug?)Pete
Yes... but I meant "a lot" in regards to gains not Ed's work and your admiration. 🙄
As far as hoo haw size goes , I'm reminded of something Dick Mann said to a young racer in the pits at the old Tulsa 1/2 Mile . The young racer and his mechanic were discussing engine mods with Mr Mann when Dick asked if the young racer could hold the throttle open all the way around the track . The young racer said no , to which Dick replied , "well young man , when you can do that , then start spending money on your engine" I don't believe anyone ever questioned the size of Dick's ... Dusty
Yes Pete, I agree with your assessment w/o major re-working. I'm not certain anyone here that has tweaked a thing or two has been so rude as to say everyone left stock has a smaller pe%^s. Why all the dismissal of someone who decides to pull a couple extra ponies? It's not done at anyone's expense from what I'm reading. Your own insecurities are rearing their head. Yes... a stock bike is just as capable. Now put it back in your pants.
Anson "Campy" Holly, got to be ranked in the top ten flat trackers in his day and went on the hold a National Record for drag racing. Was he as fast as Mann, maybe on a good day. As for as H.P being needed in racing, watch Smith motor by other riders on the straightaways on mile tracks. I made a statement my old racing buddies used, nothing more. I don't want to turn this into a toxic thread like what happens to some. Bob
Was Bobby Winters related to Leroy Winters?
Truth is, you *think* you know better.
I know of no high mileage 4 valve Larios. None. Nada. Zip. The highest mileage one I know of is 17K miles. He's owned it from new, and says he has religiously observed a 7000 rpm limit.
Well, I guess you won't believe dyno results, then?Ed's 850 conversion, using 85mm pistons from a big block engine (I believe), along with some porting, lifts the rear wheel HP from 36 on a stock Nevada or Breva, to 48.At least, that's what's on the genuine-looking dyno run sheet that came with the bike.One possible problem with adding neddies in this way is that it is not easy to change the gearing to suit. Lario primaries would be nice.The cost of all this work is several hundred dollars, though. ;-)