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Title: 73 v7 sport
Post by: rschrum on March 25, 2019, 09:00:02 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Moto-Guzzi-V7-Sport/163607358786?hash=item2617c22d42:g:8uoAAOSwVStckpPx&frcectupt=true
What do the experts think of this one.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: T4halo on March 25, 2019, 09:02:46 PM
I noticed it earlier. I have no idea of authenticity or value, but I’d ride the heck out of that bike.

T
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 25, 2019, 09:20:04 PM
Something about the front fender looks wrong?
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 25, 2019, 10:38:28 PM
I think the fender is on backwards, picture of the fender on my 1973

(https://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/P2290014_zps678f6844.jpg) (https://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/P2290014_zps678f6844.jpg.html)

Picture of Ebay bike, front fender should extend further forward, its easy to get them backwards, same with the Le Mans the fender will fit either way but it should reach further forward.

(https://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/CRASH/s-l1600_zps1zufh3hm.jpg) (https://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/CRASH/s-l1600_zps1zufh3hm.jpg.html)

This is the one in the Moto Guzzi Museum

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/P7200297_zps5763d399.jpg) (http://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/P7200297_zps5763d399.jpg.html)

It looks to be correct from what I can see in the pictures, it's a twin to the one I just sold on the weekend.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Air-Cooled on March 25, 2019, 10:39:24 PM
Front fender is correct, this is a super fine example.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: rschrum on March 25, 2019, 11:02:58 PM
Its not far from me. I might check it out. Chrome bores?
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 25, 2019, 11:14:39 PM
Its not far from me. I might check it out. Chrome bores?

The ad doesn't say of the cylinders have been replaced, assume the worst, it's and easy job to fit new Giladorni kits. I think $14 ~ $15K would be a good purchase.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Air-Cooled on March 26, 2019, 07:36:22 AM
Do a google search for images of  "V7 Sport" and view "images."  The vast majority of these bikes have the fender as shown in the seller's photo.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: rschrum on March 26, 2019, 08:06:24 AM
Thanks you!
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 26, 2019, 09:37:27 AM
Do a google search for images of  "V7 Sport" and view "images."  The vast majority of these bikes have the fender as shown in the seller's photo.

Hmmm, I am probably wrong, sorry about that, I agree most pictures how the fender longer at the rear, strange the museum bike has it the other way around.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 26, 2019, 09:43:29 AM
Hmmm, I am probably wrong, sorry about that, I agree most pictures how the fender longer at the rear, strange the museum bike has it the other way around.
aesthetically it looks much better with the longer part up front like the museum bike.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Glawster on March 26, 2019, 01:48:40 PM
It looks a very good example to me.  Don't worry about chrome bores.  They can be replated with nikasil or as I've just done, replaced with Gilardoni cylinders and pistons (around £550 GBP).  It still has the original lightweight starter motor without solenoid.  Also original Koni shocks.  Just dump the horrible indicators.  For comparison mine's also a 2nd series production, 1973

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7853/47473598961_651b4ea882_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fk5B1V)20190222_152342 (https://flic.kr/p/2fk5B1V) by Derek Wardell (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154993838@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: jwinwi on March 26, 2019, 04:42:37 PM
Not an expert but that thing looks completely original and it's *spectacular*. Hoping it sells for a LOT more than just another average one.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: cliffrod on March 26, 2019, 07:04:21 PM
VIN on that bike is 32432.  mine is 32431..  Very cool.

And No, I won't be bidding.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: JJ on March 26, 2019, 10:12:02 PM
I find it interesting that there are "0" bids on this beauty... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Air-Cooled on March 26, 2019, 10:22:17 PM
I always thought that the way to identify an original V7 Sport front fender was to look for the INOX stamp mark at the front edge. Some bikes I looked at did not have that stamp.  Maybe the fender was just turned the other way, dunno. Best thing is, you can mount it any way you like, it's still an original fender.



(https://i.ibb.co/JqGc1Nn/IMG-0244.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JqGc1Nn)
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Air-Cooled on March 26, 2019, 10:41:34 PM
VIN on that bike is 32432.  mine is 32431..  Very cool.

And No, I won't be bidding.

My serial number is 32429, very close!  The seller's bike is missing the all important side reflector on the font fender brace, ha!


(https://i.ibb.co/ftN7Wrx/tag.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ftN7Wrx)


(https://i.ibb.co/y5KwHYV/tag2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y5KwHYV)

(https://i.ibb.co/dmZd1cg/IMG-0252.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dmZd1cg)
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 26, 2019, 10:57:37 PM
Mine is 32146, November 1972
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: arveno on March 27, 2019, 08:18:13 AM
Nice bike ... bidding usually happens last minute.
Bike was repainted , odo has 00000 miles but title says 15000 so assume mileage unknown.
Quoting the seller: bike was put back together in 2006 and rode once ......
I wonder does it runs now ?
Last time it runs was in 2006 , why?

Anyway bidding has no reserve the starting price is very reasonable.
I bet it won’t go for lot of money ... guzzisti are a cheap breed....( unfortunately)

Cheers
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 27, 2019, 10:57:50 AM
Looks like Moto  Guzzi couldn't decide how to mount the front fender even on the identification picture in the Service Manual printed for the V7 Sport - 750S - 850T

The V7 Sport has it mounted long edge forward and the 750S has it long edge back! Another example of anything goes on the assembly line.

(https://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/CRASH/workshop_manual_v7sport_750s_850t_zpsd4jgwa5f.jpg) (https://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/CRASH/workshop_manual_v7sport_750s_850t_zpsd4jgwa5f.jpg.html)

Looks like the resolved it for the 850T by lengthening the fender so its long front and back.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: 5154guzzi on March 27, 2019, 11:59:23 AM
  That is not the correct fender for this V7 Sport.  The tell is that there are factory holes for the brake line mounts for twin. front of fork mounted brembos such as the Convert, G5, and T3.  These are visible in the front wheel photo.  The Inox sport fender has holes located further back, just aft of the rear fender support. Those holes are not present on this bike. On my 32014 Sport, the Inox is at the rear of the fender in order for the brake line rubber supports to be in their proper orientation.

 It`s still a real nice looking, unmolested bike that has most of it`s original appointments.


(https://i.ibb.co/zG22p0X/fender.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zG22p0X)
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 27, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
At the risk of this resembling an oil thread  ......... From the Mandelo Museum bike

(https://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/P7200296_zpsc50dbd3d.jpg) (https://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/P7200296_zpsc50dbd3d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Gearhead on March 27, 2019, 09:09:49 PM
I agree with 5154guzzi. I bought my 74 Sport brand new (October 1973) and the fender has never been disassembled. Longer length of fender on top, INOX stamp on bottom, and grommets for cables are just below the lower brace.

Pete
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Travman on March 28, 2019, 09:06:55 AM
It is very cool how a simple thread like this one can morph into a fender thread. I never noticed the differences in the V7 front fender until this thread. Now, every other picture I look at seems to have the fender mounted opposite to the previous picture.

Here are pictures of my V7 Sport front fender. Long edge is mounted forward. I do prefer the look of long edge being forward.
(https://i.imgur.com/9MK9EjR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mNx27Bc.jpg)

...and the Inox is stamped at the lower edge of the fender. It is hard to make out because of the reflectsions, but I think you can see it here.
(https://i.imgur.com/of85QAU.jpg)
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Tusayan on March 28, 2019, 09:52:14 AM
Somewhere in a box I have one of those V7 Sport front fenders, NOS.   I have forgotten how I got it...

Travman, that is a beautifully restored bike.

The bikes in the Mandello museum were in some cases pulled off the assembly line and in some cases more like a test mule prepared for display with some new parts.  I think you have to be a bit careful using those bikes for reference.  Guzzi's people themselves were not as careful in assembly and display as we sometimes try to be.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: jwinwi on March 29, 2019, 04:30:00 PM
Wanted to let everyone know I have no connection to the seller.
Starting to wonder if there will be any bids... I suppose not knowing the actual mileage isn't helping. I initially thought it would easily bring $15K but it really isn't original even though it has (mostly) original parts.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 30, 2019, 06:44:28 PM
Re listed on Ebay staring at $11,500

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Moto-Guzzi-V7-Sport/163607358786?hash=item2617c22d42:g:8uoAAOSwVStckpPx

(https://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg217/canuck750/CRASH/s-l1600_zpsnlqwuzsv.jpg) (https://s249.photobucket.com/user/canuck750/media/CRASH/s-l1600_zpsnlqwuzsv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 30, 2019, 06:51:41 PM
Re listed on Ebay staring at $11,500

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Moto-Guzzi-V7-Sport/163607358786?hash=item2617c22d42:g:8uoAAOSwVStckpPx



That's the same listing as was originally posted, not a relisting.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: canuck750 on March 30, 2019, 06:53:03 PM
Oops my bad
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: rschrum on April 01, 2019, 09:12:17 AM
Sold for 12,200.
Title: Re: 73 v7 sport
Post by: Air-Cooled on April 02, 2019, 09:33:47 PM
So it looks like V7 Sport fenders with holes for the rubber eyelets for the brake cables have the long portion of the fender forward. Those with no holes tend to have the short end forward. Many of these use the Eldo style eyelet attached to the bolts of the rear fender stay. My V7 with the short end forward has no holes and no eyelets. Maybe I should get some repros from Cycle Garden. I must admit that the long end forward looks better, although the long end to the rear may function better.


(https://i.ibb.co/YjRvfJq/s-l225.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YjRvfJq)