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Title: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Ncdan on March 28, 2019, 04:45:04 PM
Am I the only 1400 tourer owner here that would like to have a set of crash bar lowers (cold wind and rain guards) for our touring
(https://i.ibb.co/6wQXrZc/5-B904-C92-404-B-4922-B2-C5-574378-BF8382.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6wQXrZc)
bikes like EVERY OTHER touring bike in existence has? Has anyone attempted to accomplish this feat which Guzzi simply cant seem to have the ability or desire to offer sensible parts for. :(
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Luap McKeever on March 28, 2019, 05:20:58 PM
I've seen some online somewhere but cannot remember where. Google is your friend  :laugh:
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Ncdan on March 28, 2019, 06:32:56 PM
I've seen some online somewhere but cannot remember where. Google is your friend  :laugh:
Yep, thats how I found these. They are fairly stable but I don't know how they will fare at speed all day or heavy rain. I must admit I miss my Harley lowers that really offered great feet and leg protection from the elements. If Guzzi had put a little more research in and made the crash bars more  symmetrical the  vinyl ones woukd have worked fine but NO let's not make anything that other stuff will enter change with and not produce any factory accessories for Moto Guzzi motorcycles. Sorry for the rant, I just get tired of trying to make things I need for my bike that should come on it. For crying out loud wouldn't one think a bike advertised as a TOURING MOTORCYCLE would add lowers for weather protection, a factory luggage rack and better windshield for protection from the elements? :(
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: lucian on March 28, 2019, 06:56:32 PM
Hey Dan, just a thought , but would those have any effect on cooling on the goose?
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Ncdan on March 28, 2019, 07:56:52 PM
Hey Dan, just a thought , but would those have any effect on cooling on the goose?
I'm not sure Dave But I don't think so,
(https://i.ibb.co/y4c0FgX/EF7-B0050-0112-48-FE-B70-F-10-A67-E6-ED4-AF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y4c0FgX)
 they are way below the heads and there are plenty of space between them and the header pipes, so I'll have to be aware of this possibility. Thanks for the heads up. Check this picture out and tell me what you think.
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: kingoffleece on March 28, 2019, 08:01:23 PM
If you want them someone else does.  Maybe a local seamstress can fab some up.
That's how I started my seat cover business 15 years ago.  I needed something that wasn't available and low and behold, over 2000 other riders needed it, too.

See a need, fill a need.
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: lucian on March 28, 2019, 08:13:53 PM
A picture is worth a shit load of words! I'd say you're definitely good to go. I had visions of them higher in the wind stream.   You are definitely pioneering the wind protection on the 1400's. Nice work :thumb:
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Ncdan on March 28, 2019, 08:36:47 PM
If you want them someone else does.  Maybe a local seamstress can fab some up.
That's how I started my seat cover business 15 years ago.  I needed something that wasn't available and low and behold, over 2000 other riders needed it, too.

See a need, fill a need.
Great idea King!! If you can locate a 1400 near you and fabricate a set I'll be your first customer. I'd bet there are several 1400 owners here woukd love a set. I did attempt to find a lady that made a set for a Kawasaki 1500 for me several years ago but she moved her shop and left no address. I'll be waiting:)👍👍👍
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: rocker59 on March 29, 2019, 10:30:59 AM

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Guzzi simply cant seem to have the ability or desire to offer sensible parts


California 1400s exist in the hundreds.  Does anyone really wonder why there are limited accessories and limited aftermarket support?

There are more Harleys cruising the PCH at this moment than there are California 1400s in the world.

If a person wants/needs/expects more support for their big cruiser, there are brands which have it.  Harley, Honda, Yamaha.

  :huh:
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: elvisboy77 on March 29, 2019, 10:51:32 AM

California 1400s exist in the hundreds.  Does anyone really wonder why there are limited accessories and limited aftermarket support?

There are more Harleys cruising the PCH at this moment than there are California 1400s in the world.

If a person wants/needs/expects more support for their big cruiser, there are brands which have it.  Harley, Honda, Yamaha.

  :huh:

Exactly.  Well said.  Guzzi is not Harley.
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: vintagehoarder on March 29, 2019, 11:08:03 AM
They had them on the California Vintage

(https://photos.smugmug.com/2007-Moto-Guzzi-California-Vintage/i-DMN958v/0/80b4a8e2/M/3298%20t5i%20019-M.jpg) (https://curtedwards.smugmug.com/2007-Moto-Guzzi-California-Vintage/i-DMN958v/A)
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: kingoffleece on March 29, 2019, 01:16:03 PM
Fair enough.  nobody near me has one.

I'll keep looking.
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: DaddyRabbit on March 30, 2019, 08:51:58 AM
I'd love a set!  That was the one thing that i was disappointed in when trading my CalVin for the 1400.  The CalVin's were well integrated into the machine and did a pretty solid job. 
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Ncdan on March 31, 2019, 08:17:53 AM
I'd love a set!  That was the one thing that i was disappointed in when trading my CalVin for the 1400.  The CalVin's were well integrated into the machine and did a pretty solid job.
You are right DR the lowers on the Calvin, as I had an 07 worked great and just to think those bikes were never ordained as a, TOURING MOTO GUZZI, as the 1400 TOURER was. It's not bad mouthing the brand to point out short comings that are very obvious. To call a piece of fried bologna a TBone steak does not make it a great feast:)
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Zoom Zoom on March 31, 2019, 09:27:35 AM
One of the things I have considered was to use some cardboard and cut out the proper shape to clear everything. (Not block the heads, clear the pipes, etc.) Using that as a pattern, cut some plexiglass to the proper shape and use some clamps that have rubber around the clamp body to attach them. I figured I would scuff up and paint the back side of the plexi to finish them off. Along that line, it would be possible to extend the shield out past the bar. One could even heat the plexi up a little and bend a slight angle to the outside edge.

The clamps I have in mind are like these: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Lokman-Stainless-Rubber-Cushioned/dp/B01N3Q3RBL/ref=asc_df_B01N3Q3RBL/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309811990469&hvpos=1o4&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16705835436693319234&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015277&hvtargid=pla-568579125533&psc=1

I've seen them at the hardware store too.

John Henry
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Ncdan on March 31, 2019, 10:48:14 AM
I attempted that a while back but best I remember the angles of those bars were so radical I decided to head another direction. If you get this method perfected that woukd be great !
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: Roebling3 on April 01, 2019, 01:52:48 PM
Although I don't imagine ever using 'lowers' it seems www.bikescreen.com
AKA Gustaffson Plastics St. Augustine, FL could be a contender. They are terrific people.
Start a write in campaign. Another possibility: www.airtech-streamlining.com 
Seems to me using a proper industrial plastic those pieces could easily be vacuum formed.  R3~ 
Title: Re: Crash bar lowers for the 1400 tourer
Post by: elvisboy77 on April 01, 2019, 09:00:21 PM
You are right DR the lowers on the Calvin, as I had an 07 worked great and just to think those bikes were never ordained as a, TOURING MOTO GUZZI, as the 1400 TOURER was. It's not bad mouthing the brand to point out short comings that are very obvious. To call a piece of fried bologna a TBone steak does not make it a great feast:)

I think that, from my perspective, relative to the Guzzis I bought in the 1980's and 1990's there are now a TON of accessories.  I don't remember seeing much of an accessory catalog back then.  I am sure the historians in the group can shed some light on the details.

So, I think Guzzi is doing a GREAT job with accessories, relative to my past experience with their bikes.   

Yes, there are shortcomings.  Those are provided by the factory at no extra charge, lol.  Doesn't matter, I like the brand the way it is.