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Well - I had to wear a blood pressure monitor for a day and low and behold I have high blood pressure and am immediately going on to the tabs
Its always been at the top limit, but not being a smoker and a light drinker only not considered a big issue. Now at the age of 58 it appears it is!!
As far as I was concerned I was fine - what are the obvious symptoms?????
Any tips, thoughts for the other suffers on this forum?
Cheers
Tris
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What is your current blood pressure?
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I have found that good outdoor exercise, and an excellent healthy diet works well for me. As for social drinking ... I am now close to zero as well. My family doctor is amazed, and may take me off of my blood pressure meds. Good Health! :bike-037:
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What is your current blood pressure?
I can't remember The monitor checked every 30 minutes and when I stuck it into the NHS calculator it came out RED or said "dont be stupid, your Diastolic can't be that high" :wink:
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/blood-pressure-test/
Control by diet/exercise/weight reduction will be my preferred solution too P949
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Low sodium diet, cut out caffeine and alcohol and get exercise. All the stuff we already know to do but don't.
Also sometimes diet and excercise aren't enough so implimenting a BP reducing med (there are several so don't be surprised to try a couple before you fine one that works) + possible a water pill for help flush out salt from the system.
Having high BP sucks but not knowing you have it is much worse.
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The very best thing you can do is just walk. It's low impact on your knees, back, hips, etc.
It will not only help your entire body, it will help your mind.
I prefer to walk in the woods, but anywhere is better than not walking at all.
As Peter says, eat right. Oatmeal, banana, for breakfast, lay off the pastry/bagels.
If you have a person to walk with you, great. If not, a four legged companion will just add to the enjoyment.
Turn off the TV :wink:
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.....Having high BP sucks but not knowing you have it is much worse.
And there's the thing.
I was only at the doctor initially as a good friend suggested that I should get a check up - as I rarely see the Doc
Hence I'm interested in the symptoms as whether it was something I should have noticed
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It's called the silent killer.
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It's called the silent killer.
Very true, ALL meds have side affects.
You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain by exercise.
JMO, people lose interest in gym type exercise.
Nature walks are free, the companionship of a walking buddy is priceless.
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Besides regular exercise, cut out sugar-stevia turns out to have a lowering effect on blood pressure too, and it works well if sweet is your thing.
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I'm thin active and have high BP...Started in my 50's so I did all the diet tricks and exercise despite being a constructive worker...None of it worked, I have been taking moderate BP medication and at nearly 72 is all fine...I also have in my generic turd bag a tendency for high blood sugar..I can control it with diet alone however..
I had several friends who never went to doctors and figured their blood pressure was fine because they felt ok.....They are now dead...High blood pressure slowly destroys your internal organs and vascular system..
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Mine was high and I took meds until I lost the belly fat with diet and exercise. I put 15 lbs back on last year and it's up again so the doc wants me back on meds if I don't take the weight off again. He's given me 60 days to get my act together.
Just started a new job where I'll be walking to/from the train so that 4 mi/day of walking should help. Figure out how to incorporate exercise into your daily routine. Maybe park a mile or two away from your place of work or force yourself to eat lunch a good walk away. Eat some fruit or have a big glass of water BEFORE a meal so you'll eat less. Just do something to get more fit and trim and maybe you can get off the meds.
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You don't want your first s symptom to be a stroke. Unless super high or low there will be no symptoms. Something to be said for regular checkups. Diabetes is the other silent killer.
GliderJohn
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And there's the thing.
I was only at the doctor initially as a good friend suggested that I should get a check up - as I rarely see the Doc
Hence I'm interested in the symptoms as whether it was something I should have noticed
Some folks get headaches or blurred vision but generally you feel nothing and no symptoms. The downside is after you get your BP under control you still may feel no differently. This is where people think that BP medication or lifestyle changes really aren't having an effect and stop doing what they are doing. It not like if you have indigestion you eat a Tums and feel better. With high or controlled BP you'll most likely not notice a physical or measurable change.
Years ago my father stopped taking his BP medication because he had no difference in feeling. He eventually had a heart attack and from that day until the day he passed decades later took his BP medication without fail. He got lucky and got a second chance to live another couple decades with no debilitating damage.
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My old man has had high blood pressure from the age of about 25, the tabs do work less caffine more exercise, he's 79 and still active drives the bus for the old peoples home every week (I'm sure there are people on the bus younger than he is) so it can be managed, fortunately I didn't inherit it.
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The top 3 causes of death are 1, heart attacks, 2, cancer, 3, strokes. Most of those who die from cancer have heart disease but the cancer got to them first.
Heart attacks and strokes are the same disease, the only difference is which artery got blocked, one to the heart or one to the brain.
Almost everyone has heart disease. High blood pressure is just a symptom. Don't treat the symptom, go after the underlying cause.
I was well down the same path in my 50's when confronted with heart disease in my parents.
I just started researching as to what could be done that was non-invasive and came across a couple of studies using lifestyle intervention. I thought, what have I got to lose?
I changed cold turkey about 13 years ago. within a few months my blood pressure dropped from 138 over 80 something to 110 over 70. Cholesterol went from 208 to 149.
Both markers have remained at these levels for more than a decade, all with no medication. My stamina has increased.
Sure it is difficult to eat and live healthy in this world. The alternative is having your chest split open for bypass or to have stents inserted and being on multiple medications for the rest of your life.
Still these are only patches and do not address the underlying cause. Re-stenosis usually happens in another 5-15 years and you are in the same boat but maybe with no veins to harvest for another bypass.
The things that are important to me are being able to be physically active like when I was young, ride my motorcycles, and be mentally alert.
I don't care much if I can't have a piece of cheese cake or a burger and fries or what ever rich fatty, sugary salty daily meal or snack.
Seems like an equitable trade.
I am 65 and need no medications. I can not think of a single person my age who is not on several meds.
This is what I do. I have for the last 13+ years.
https://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387 (https://www.amazon.com/Ornishs-Program-Reversing-Heart-Disease/dp/0804110387)
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I never felt other noticed and symtoms. I take my daily HCTZ pill and don't worry about it.
-AJ
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Sometimes it's hereditary and just how your blood vessel system is built. I have high BP (controlled now), and have been on BP meds since my mid 20's and have been making deals with my doc to get off of them (or reducing the dosage) by going extreme almost in the health department then checking back in 6 months etc, I finally gave-in almost 20 years later that I can't really bring it down naturally to where the new norms are. For you/everyone, certainly try the stuff known out there to reduce it (good diet, weight, exercise, meditate, etc) first and see how it goes that will certainly help and give you a good reference point. However, you might have to get on meds, and sometimes two meds as they'll work in conjunction. Also, check BP and various times of the day and after different type activities or meals to get a good understanding and better average on where you stand. There are some nice BP machines these days out there that will send each reading to an app on your phone and chart it out and such (if you like that kind of tech), but that itself could raise your BP when it doesn't connect to your device :azn:
I still maintain a healthy lifestyle, we cook at home with best ingredients, diet mostly Mediterranean based and I take the pills with what I believe no side-effects. Definetly it takes a little time to find the right one/ones for each person, so don't give up. Once you find the right ones, then it's nothing taking them and you'll know that the peaks in BP will be suppressed.
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Heredity trumps lifestyle & habits and I'm certainly no expert on health, but I am an expert on food & cooking. If you don't cook your own food, you are surrendering a lot of health control.
Natural fats can be managed by your natural body. Among other things, engineered fat products help things stick- like flavor components to taste buds. They also stick more effectively to arterial walls... Engineered fats are often more shelf-stable in foods, may be hygroscopic to keep,food moist for longer periods of time, etc, etc. Just because they are plant-based doesn't make them "better." Cholesterol means animal-originated fat and that's all it means. A small amount of animal-based fat is probably no worse and may be better for your health than many engineered fats.
So many purchased assembled-product foods have extra sugars to mask salt content or extra salt to mask sugar content. Both are common strategies to boost flavor experience, especially in convenience product. Lowering your salt and sugar intakes often has less to do with how much of either you add to a dish than the ingredients already in there. By cooking it yourself, you address this issue effectively.
Gluten (somewhat peripheral here but...) is also greatly misunderstood and hyped/promoted. Gluten is an elastic network or tangle of glutenin and gliadin (sp?), specific proteins common to wheat. Other grain products may have similar proteins that create an elastic network of proteins, but if you are sensitive to a specific protein you need to know more than just calling it gluten. Eating gluten free without specifc medical need is a fad.
By cooking your own, you can make a significant impact on what goes into your body. It doesn't have to be all organic, fine dining fancy stuff. Eating better to live better is a win-win. Too bad washing the dishes isn't actually considered to be exercise..
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Walking is good exercise ---- Butt:
bicycle is better when "you spin" No Grinding
Canoeing and Kayaking are better work the belly muscles and better scenery
Rowing and Cross Country Skiing are best more calories burned - less impact and the best scenery
And then there's motorcycle riding for improving your Zen. also the Griso has actually helped my back a lot
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I used to be a diabetic but back in about 2011 I got tired of taking the pills and poking holes in my fingers so I quit being a diabetic.
I began eating more carefully and exercising. My sugar numbers have been acceptable
since. When my leg paralysis stopped me from walking I went to the gym.
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Symptoms......heart attack, or stroke. There are none really.
We know nothing about you so, generally the best thing you can do is Not Be Fat. I'm 5-10 and fairly muscular. If I keep it below 200lbs, I have no HBP. Let go of it for a year and gain 30-40lbs, I'm on the verge of hyper tension. But that's me.
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What a lot of great info and thanks for sharing
My old man has high blood pressure so I'm not over surprised that I have it too I guess
Walking has already started with a mate at work every lunch time
Also started a week or so back weaning myself onto decaffeinated tea
No more munchies at bed time
The tabs start in the morning, and let's see where I am in 6 months time
Thanks again all - I knew that this was the right place to ask :thumb:
Tris
PS I'm 5' 10" and 196 lbs
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As someone whose hypertension was discovered at my army physical at age 18, I have been taking medication for it all my adult life. There are some good lifestyle recommendations here, but make no mistake: they are likely not enough. There is no substitute for lifelong monitoring by a competent physician, who will determine what treatment you should have. You can’t do it by yourself.
The silver lining for me is that because of this, the Army didn’t want me, and I had a very low draft number — would likely have been drafted in a couple of months at the height of the war in Vietnam. I had no intention of avoiding service, but the decision was no longer mine to make.
SEE YOUR DOCTOR.
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Yep... Getting old stinks. like everything else your mileage may vary, but I found that a daily intake of apple cider vinegar (capsule) and that superbeets powder mix brought my blood pressure down.
I used to be very active and a competitive runner, but several injuries to my back hip and knee have taken that away. as a result blood pressure and cholesterol levels went through the roof.
of course the doctors wanted to take away caffeine and Copenhagen and that just was not going to happen :-)
Diet is important and exercise is as well, and I found that a combination of long fast walks and swimming with some bicycling have helped to get me more active, as well as weight training. bottom line 30 minutes of some type of exercise that raises your heart rate causes you to break a sweat is all you really need to maintain some level of activity and health.
But we only have one body all we can do is do our best hope everything works out for you brother.
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My son is an RN ,and works at a dialysis center. He tells me that they have a large number of patients younger than 60 where high blood pressure, undiagnosed for a number of years damaged their kidneys.It would be wise for most of us to get a decent quality blood pressure monitoring machine for at home , and check our own, and family members BP as well. BP needs to be monitored for a number of days to get a real idea of whats going on.
Rick.
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And guess who had a blood test as part of the check up that showed a kidney function that was not quite as the Doc expected so have had a second to confirm!
I'm starting to see this as a big red flag to get my act together PDQ!
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Be cautious about which type of the three three major BP meds out there. I was on a beta BLOCKER for a while and it was BAD. This type puts a rev limiter on your heart which limits how fast your heart is able to beat. I am very physically active and it was way to restrictive for my life style. Right now I'm on Losartan 100-25 and it works good for me with few side effects. Do your research and don't let the doctor do all the thinking when it comes to this issue.
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www.dietdoctor.com
The Keto diet or as I now call it Keto Lifestyle will drop your blood pressure, will likely alleviate type 2 diabetes symptoms and you will loose belly fat. I started 6 weeks ago and have dropped 23 lbs and feel much healthier. I don’t count calories or restrict amount I eat but zero carbs, very little sugar or high sugar content fruit, no beer, lots of natural fats. I have much more energy and I am not hungry and I don’t have the urge to snack. Log into the website and watch the videos, it’s that simple.
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Well - I had to wear a blood pressure monitor for a day and low and behold I have high blood pressure and am immediately going on to the tabs
Its always been at the top limit, but not being a smoker and a light drinker only not considered a big issue. Now at the age of 58 it appears it is!!
As far as I was concerned I was fine - what are the obvious symptoms?????
Any tips, thoughts for the other suffers on this forum?
Cheers
Tris
Lots of good advice here regarding exercise, diet, weight loss etc. but fact is only 15% of people respond to a low sodium diet. A lot of it is simply genetics. My paternal grandmother had it, my father has it, and I have it. There are no symptoms and someone mentioned that this is why is called the "silent killer". Get yourself a blood pressure monitor so you can test at home. Measurements at doctor's office are useless due to anxiety and because they are single point measurements. Your blood pressure will vary throughout the day so you need to measure it yourself on a regular basis at same time each day. I had marginal high pressures (130-140 over 90) and am on low doses of amlodipine (calcium channel blocker) and lisinopril (ACE inhibitor - originally from Brazilian pit viper!) and it works great for me..........so far! These are generic meds and are very cheap. Lisinopril causes a dry cough for a lot of people but it has been fine for me.
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1. Get a dog & be its alpha. The oxytocin, endorphins & exercise will all help.
2. No more cereal. Fruit for brekky. Maybe unsweetened porridge (oatmeal) once or twice a week for its lipo-absorbtive qualities.
3. No more carbs. Even the low Glycemic Index ones like wholemeal or grain bread et. al. Maybe whole Rye/Pumpernickel is OK?
4. Treat all sugars (sucrose, fructose, dextrose etc) correctly as the poisons they are. Antithetic to longevity & good health. This includes fruit juices, which are concentrations of the worst of fruit (the sugars) with all the good stuff removed (pulp, fibre). Eat your fruit raw & unprocessed in any way. Even raw veg is better too!
5. 2 pieces of fruit & 5 veg per day is appropriate for NORMAL health, but for a REMEDIAL diet these quantities should be at least doubled, and carb & lipo intake halved.
6. Plant a dozen or so fruit trees & your own veg patch. For fitness' sake, monetary considerations & because home-grown is just so much tastier, cheaper & BETTER.
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If they put you on beta blockers you will probably be on them for life. They work by regulating amongst other things how fast your heart will pump. Can be a real bear trying to walk up a hill for example, the heart rate stays much the same and you feel utterly exhausted. I was put on them to break a cycle of cluster migraine. I was riding a bike 25 miles each way to work at that time and instead of 45 mins it took 1 hour 20. Awful.
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If they put you on beta blockers you will probably be on them for life. They work by regulating amongst other things how fast your heart will pump. Can be a real bear trying to walk up a hill for example, the heart rate stays much the same and you feel utterly exhausted. I was put on them to break a cycle of cluster migraine. I was riding a bike 25 miles each way to work at that time and instead of 45 mins it took 1 hour 20. Awful.
I take a low dose beta blocker and another low dose non beta blocker...The side effects are barely noticeable...You need to work with the doc on this stuff..If he won't listen, find one who will..
I cut out nearly all carbs to control blood sugar a few years ago....My BP remained the same.....I slowly added a few carbs to avoid a slow but steady weight loss and gravitating towards eating too much fat.... but still like to limit carbs to about 50 grams a day and my blood sugar is normal...I rarely eat fruit other than blackberries but we do consume mass quantities of raw vegetables...A three inch long sweet pepper has more vitamin C than a sugar laden orange..I suck on half a lime every day for citrus goodies...
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If they put you on beta blockers you will probably be on them for life. They work by regulating amongst other things how fast your heart will pump. Can be a real bear trying to walk up a hill for example, the heart rate stays much the same and you feel utterly exhausted. I was put on them to break a cycle of cluster migraine. I was riding a bike 25 miles each way to work at that time and instead of 45 mins it took 1 hour 20. Awful.
Yep. Exactly what I said in my response. It took me about 6 months to figured out why from one week to the next I couldn't do the same intensity work out I had been doing for years. I finally googled "BP meds and PT" and the internet blew up with the information. That's why I said to do your own research and not just follow doctors orders. They are not always right when it comes to YOUR body!
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www.dietdoctor.com
The Keto diet or as I now call it Keto Lifestyle will drop your blood pressure, will likely alleviate type 2 diabetes symptoms and you will loose belly fat. I started 6 weeks ago and have dropped 23 lbs and feel much healthier. I don’t count calories or restrict amount I eat but zero carbs, very little sugar or high sugar content fruit, no beer, lots of natural fats. I have much more energy and I am not hungry and I don’t have the urge to snack. Log into the website and watch the videos, it’s that simple.
This works well-they have great recipes too.
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I was also told by my doctor to stop taking Ibuprophin. She said there was a residual effect increasing my BP even on meds. Too bad- Ibuprophin helped a lot with my arthritis-now I just whine...
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From Knuckle Dragger:
2. No more cereal. Fruit for brekky. Maybe unsweetened porridge (oatmeal) once or twice a week for its lipo-absorbtive qualities.
3. No more carbs. Even the low Glycemic Index ones like wholemeal or grain bread et. al. Maybe whole Rye/Pumpernickel is OK?
4. Treat all sugars (sucrose, fructose, dextrose etc) correctly as the poisons they are. Antithetic to longevity & good health. This includes fruit juices, which are concentrations of the worst of fruit (the sugars) with all the good stuff removed (pulp, fibre). Eat your fruit raw & unprocessed in any way. Even raw veg is better too!
5. 2 pieces of fruit & 5 veg per day is appropriate for NORMAL health, but for a REMEDIAL diet these quantities should be at least doubled, and carb & lipo intake halved.
6. Plant a dozen or so fruit trees & your own veg patch. For fitness' sake, monetary considerations & because home-grown is just so much tastier, cheaper & BETTER.
I know what you are saying but jeez...on that diet I would loose a ton of weight quickly due to eating so little. I have had a life long STRONG aversion to most veggies. There are several veggies that even now will trigger my gag reflex if I try to eat them, even just the smell. A few others I can eat a tablespoon or two of if smothered in cheese and well salted. Unsweetened oatmeal...oh my, not as bad a veggies but close. I can do most fruits quite a bit better.
At least I formally exercise five days a week and that helps a lot and I an less than 10 pounds over from ideal weight but that is usually only a winter time concern.
Staying healthy ain't easy anymore.
GliderJohn
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If one has the genetic make up to have issues like diabetes, high cholesterol and high blood pressure there is no diet that will totally control those issues and least for myself. I have always eat a well balanced diet and a regular exercise regime for the better part of my 66 years. Even now I am 5'10" 160lb, 16% body fat and 32" waist and must take meds for sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure. I came of the meds at least twice and although I could produce a slight reduction was unable to bring the numbers to an acceptable level. I realize there are folks who will testify that they have accomplished this feat and I think that's great however my doctor and medical science disagree. Not getting into any arguments on the subject just saying peoples genetic makeup are different and what works for one may not work for thousands and visa versa.
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When I turned 50 I found out I had high blood pressure. I got a blinding pain in the back of my head, so off to the hospital I went. I had to wear a monitor for 24 hours and was told do everything I normally do. Well it was the night I played tennis wasn't it. I played in 2 competitions 1 after the other, so about 5 hours of playing. The next day I went back to the hospital and they took the readings and then asked me why I wasn't dead. Apparently the highest reading was 250 over 170. I'm still here though.
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. Apparently the highest reading was 250 over 170. I'm still here though.
Shite!!!!!
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Walk, walk, walk Tris. Make it a permanent part of your lifestyle. Always take the stairs. Park as far away from the shops as you can. Follow a sensible diet but dont stress over it. In fact remove whatever stresses you can from your life.
Carry aspirin with you at all times. In the unlikely event you have a heart attack, chewing two or three 80mg aspirin may make all the difference.
It saved a friend of mine......
Nick
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Half measures may or may not be enough - including that 80 mg baby aspirin.
Harvard med...
"Take a regular-strength (325-mg) aspirin pill that is not enteric-coated. Don't swallow it; chew it, and then swallow it with a glass of water.
True...my friend chewed 4 x 80mg, so close to the Harward rec. Saved him from the 'widow maker' (blocked LDA). Stented.
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......In fact remove whatever stresses you can from your ......
Nick
Difficult to get away from stress just now. My wife was diagnosed with a malignant melanoma before Christmas and is now on imuno therapy
However after 4 treatments the lump has shrunk so we're hopeful
So the stress will be around for some time to come, but I can still attack everything else that IS in my control - it can only help
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All the above is good - my experience:
I'm the poster boy for medication side effects - if there's an effect that only one person in a hundred gets, I get it.
So experiment, experiment ... get a good doctor, possibly a cardiologist if you don't easily get results.
I have a list of ten drugs I cannot tolerate or were not effective, but eventually found a combination that works for me that I can tolerate.
Recently my cholesterol numbers crossed over from acceptable to unacceptable for the first time ... a new challenge. No statins for me ...
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Hello. Interesting and timely topic. My blood tests and blood pressure have been normal, since I went on a crazy elimination-type diet last July in 2018. Lost 48 lbs as a side benefit. Lost about 7 - 8 lbs a month without trying hard. Never looked better!
Not for a lot of people though. Basically beef, water, and salt. The Carnivore diet. Vegans hate it, vegetarians are disgusted, and people eating the Standard American Diet (SAD) don't believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isIw2AN_-XU
The above link explains it well. Last year I searched online for as many pro and con articles about the carnivore diet that I could find. You should do the same if you are looking for a 'last' chance attempt dealing with some health issue. This may help you. I took a 30 day 'challenge' to see if it was good for me. It was really good for me - going to stay on it. Benefits beside lower blood pressure: blood sugar levels improve a lot, blood sugar doesnt bounce up and down during the day - and no cravings! Also: no more acid reflux, leaky gut, better skin and gums (really) and better sleep.
Another good vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8P92UstbJM
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Inflamed blood vessel tissues? Here comes the cholesterol to patch up the leaky bits. The inflammation may be caused by some cooking oils.
This is a very good vid on the history and health benefits of modern cooking oils: https://youtu.be/Q2UnOryQiIY?t=30
Got lots more - anyone want more info, send me a message.
Gotta go. Time to eat!
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Walk, walk, walk Tris. Make it a permanent part of your lifestyle. Always take the stairs. Park as far away from the shops as you can. Follow a sensible diet but dont stress over it. In fact remove whatever stresses you can from your life.
Carry aspirin with you at all times. In the unlikely event you have a heart attack, chewing two or three 80mg aspirin may make all the difference.
It saved a friend of mine......
Nick
Yes, we do as much manual labor as possible...mostly because we have time and are cheap.......I can say this, nearly all the people I know that are healthy and active at around 80 years old do nothing special..None are vegetarian, none follow a strict low carb or any other diet, none use tobacco, but some do smoke pot occasionally and none use much alcohol.They vary from slightly thin to slightly overweight.They all see a doc for a check up once a year or whatever.. Everything in moderation. But one thing they do have in common is a passion for something that is a bit of exercise for mind and body like gardening, working in a home shop, craft work and so on...
You can't reverse your genetics but you can make it as good as possible using common sense...
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All I can say here is, I urge caution to those who get their health/dietary/medical advice on YouTube.....
There are decades worth of thousands of well controlled studies of essential hypertension management that give us real scientific guidance here.
Not as much on WG, but on an aviation discussion board I frequent the N=1 health recommendations are frightening.
Let us not fall into that abyss.
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After decades of high blood pressure, I have finally had a breakthrough. I am now down to around 120 over 80 after being closer to 160 over 100.
Diet and exercise are the keys.
Several years ago, I lost 40 pounds by taking up running and "starvation," but my BP remained stubbornly high. BP medication did not work.
Recently, my wife and I went on a SUGAR DETOX for several weeks, cutting out bread, pasta, ice cream, cake, cookies, pie, added sugar... You know, all the things that taste good! We replaced our pre-packaged, sugar-laden, cancer-causing diet with a more Mediterranean/Paleo diet.
I lost another 10 pounds in less than a month, and my BP dropped to around 120 over 80. And I am not even running like I used to, just getting moderate exercise (walking, building stuff around the property, and gardening mainly).
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A guy at my work has been doing this for about 4 years and he says it's been fantastic.
https://thebloodsugardiet.com/the-52-bsd/
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when I first learned I had it years ago, my advice was simply "Put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye"