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Title: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on May 09, 2019, 08:58:54 PM
Saw this on Instagram today.... Can't find any other info, and no pic of a new model is offered...  But this sounds like we are going to see a new Ambo 750 on the V7 platform?? Is that how you are reading this?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxPVXapH6gT/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BxPVXapH6gT/)
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 09, 2019, 09:25:00 PM
I dunno, but we can hope!!!
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Cam3512 on May 09, 2019, 09:59:50 PM
Looks to me to be just a flashback of the original ad.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: JACoH on May 10, 2019, 10:25:12 AM
Yeah, looks like an Instagram from 1969.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Roebling3 on May 10, 2019, 11:03:15 AM
That 'instagram' may be older than you.  R3~
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Tom H on May 10, 2019, 11:12:28 AM
Looks to me like it will have the highly advanced dual leading shoe drum brakes on the front!!! Cool!!!

Tom
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: bad Chad on May 10, 2019, 11:15:27 AM
Yeah,  I think it’s a flashback add too.  Put out when you have nothing new to say I presume.

I do think it’s a bit odd they haven’t put out an Ambo/Eldo Nuevo v7?  It would be super easy and cheap to do and they could likely sell a couple thousand rather quickly.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 10, 2019, 03:02:01 PM
You don't think they're teasing something:

Quote

moto_guzzi_official
A real Italian style ambassador. Introducing the New Moto Guzzi V7 750 Ambassador.
#MotoGuzzi


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#Guzzisti #V7 #V7Ambassador #motorcycle #bike #riders #motor #moto #bikelife #bikers #garage #makelifearide #caferacerxxx #caferacersofinstagram #caferacerculture #caferacers #caferacergram #custom



?!?
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: azguzzirep on May 10, 2019, 03:31:39 PM
I'd love to have a new Ambassador or T 3!!!
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: TimmyTheHog on May 10, 2019, 03:39:06 PM
oh god, if they bring the ambassador back in the new engine platform, my wallet will hurt...

Always love the feel and look of the ambassador
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 10, 2019, 04:11:26 PM
Man, I need to build a bigger garage. 
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 10, 2019, 04:31:32 PM
oh god, if they bring the ambassador back in the new engine platform, my wallet will hurt...

Always love the feel and look of the ambassador

I think your wallet will be safe. Any nuovo Ambassador will bear little resemblance to the original.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Cam3512 on May 10, 2019, 05:15:36 PM
They HAVE put out a nuovo Eldorado - as a 1400.  Even called one of the earlier white 1400’s an “Ambassador”.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Devildog on May 10, 2019, 07:14:53 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/M6BRF6x/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/M6BRF6x)

It could be a very cool bike.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: bad Chad on May 10, 2019, 08:21:22 PM
They HAVE put out a nuovo Eldorado - as a 1400.  Even called one of the earlier white 1400’s an “Ambassador”.

There’s no reason why they wouldn’t put out a 750 version, is there?
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 10, 2019, 08:24:10 PM
There’s no reason why they wouldn’t put out a 750 version, is there?

I'd go further and say there's every reason they should. Especially in this day and age. Maybe millennials are not as worried about some bs perilous correlation between penis size and CCs.

Honestly I love everything about my RK EXCEPT its size (both my ass* and displacement). I would LOVE something smaller but just as stable/comfortable.

Edit--best auto correct mistake EVER. This was supposed to be MASS!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 11, 2019, 07:04:39 AM
I'd go further and say there's every reason they should. Especially in this day and age. Maybe millennials are not as worried about some bs perilous correlation between penis size and CCs.

Honestly I love everything about my RK EXCEPT it's size (both my ass and displacement). I would LOVE something smaller but just as stable/comfortable.

I agree.  My Road Glide is my last big bike.  I physically can't tour anymore and am gravitating toward simple machines.  I am loving the Royal Enfield Himalayan because it opened up so many roads near me that I would never have attempted on the Harley and would be hesitant to take the V7 down.  750cc is as big as i want these days, but I have no plans on parting with the Harley because it is the most comfortable and allows me to expand my riding circle.   
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: oilhed on May 11, 2019, 08:45:50 AM
I'd love to have a new Ambassador or T 3!!!
I think your wallet will be safe. Any nuovo Ambassador will bear little resemblance to the original.
And thats the problem  Don't reinvision just remake with new parts!
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: trippah on May 11, 2019, 09:10:03 AM
That was Triumph's method and it seems to be working; then slowly add new models as needed. :thumb:
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: TimmyTheHog on May 11, 2019, 03:58:33 PM
And thats the problem  Don't reinvision just remake with new parts!
That was Triumph's method and it seems to be working; then slowly add new models as needed. :thumb:

Exactly! Triumph did a wonderful job with its Bonnie series and Guzzi did well with their V7 line up.

Both retained their vintage feel while still have the modern trinkets.
I think your wallet will be safe. Any nuovo Ambassador will bear little resemblance to the original.
Sad but that is likely truth
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: jas67 on May 11, 2019, 04:39:49 PM
Looks to me to be just a flashback of the original ad.

+1
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: jas67 on May 11, 2019, 04:43:36 PM
I'd go further and say there's every reason they should. Especially in this day and age. Maybe millennials are not as worried about some bs perilous correlation between penis size and CCs.

Honestly I love everything about my RK EXCEPT its size (both my ass* and displacement). I would LOVE something smaller but just as stable/comfortable.

Edit--best auto correct mistake EVER. This was supposed to be MASS!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :grin: :grin:

Harley DOES make something similar to your RK, but, closer in mASS and size (but, not displacement) to your '96 RK:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lWWmwe3sRsY/maxresdefault.jpg)

Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 11, 2019, 07:05:38 PM
Harley DOES make something similar to your RK, but, closer in mASS and size (but, not displacement) to your '96 RK:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lWWmwe3sRsY/maxresdefault.jpg)

Are you really gonna lecture me on Harleys lol.

Unfortunately it is lacking the following which you get on an RK:

* Dual front Brembos
* Rear crash bars
* Tubeless cast wheels
* Bigger/better RK bags

But it's close.... Close....
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 11, 2019, 08:25:43 PM
Are you really gonna lecture me on Harleys lol.

Unfortunately it is lacking the following which you get on an RK:

* Dual front Brembos
* Rear crash bars
* Tubeless cast wheels
* Bigger/better RK bags

But it's close.... Close....

When I heard they were going to put out the sport glide I was hoping it was going to have a frame mounted fairing.  Like what this guy created. 
(https://i.ibb.co/vmRnhTv/CE3-E0-ADA-9-DDB-42-DE-B517-C401-E4-FAA6-B6-1547687250566.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vmRnhTv)

(https://i.ibb.co/pWnwgNj/0-DD4-FA75-3-A22-4000-83-B2-E532-C0937-D0-C-1547687274268.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pWnwgNj)

(https://i.ibb.co/PgHQHnL/69079749-9-C9-F-4-F3-A-BE1-A-5-F0-A1-F38-CE94-1547687422420.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PgHQHnL)
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 11, 2019, 08:44:07 PM
Yeah I think the Sport Glide is at the top of my list for the current Softails. If they'd just add an extra disc and maybe a little more FXRT style fairing coverage I'd be very tempted. As long as I could adapt the floorboards too.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on May 12, 2019, 09:35:41 AM
I'm convinced they are releasing an Ambo tribute bike on the V7iii platform...  From the wording of the post. Not providing a picture, and instead putting up 4-5 pics of the original ambo is just par for the course for MG social media...

I will note that these posts appeared on the MG official account, and also on the MG Spain account, but I did not see them on MG americas or other official MG accounts...
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: oilhed on May 12, 2019, 07:15:54 PM
Yeah I think the Sport Glide is at the top of my list for the current Softails. If they'd just add an extra disc and maybe a little more FXRT style fairing coverage I'd be very tempted. As long as I could adapt the floorboards too.

Be still me heart!
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: roadscum on May 13, 2019, 11:26:27 AM
Unfortunately the sport gluide it is lacking the following which you get on an RK:

* Dual front Brembos
* Rear crash bars
* xxxxxxxxxxxx
* Bigger/better RK bags

And at 700lbs it's too damn heavy for my taste. Been there done that, had enough, now my upper limit is 500-550 lbs.


Paul
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 13, 2019, 11:31:58 AM
Unfortunately the sport gluide it is lacking the following which you get on an RK:

* Dual front Brembos
* Rear crash bars
* xxxxxxxxxxxx
* Bigger/better RK bags
 :weiner:

Paul

OOOPS - you are, of course, correct sir, I WAS confusing that with my Objection to the Heritage! (which does sadly come with tubed spokes and even worse bags). While we're at it we can add a lack of driving lamps to the Sport Glide (though the Heritage has them).
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: jas67 on May 14, 2019, 04:33:49 AM
OOOPS - you are, of course, correct sir, I WAS confusing that with my Objection to the Heritage! (which does sadly come with tubed spokes and even worse bags). While we're at it we can add a lack of driving lamps to the Sport Glide (though the Heritage has them).

I do have to agree, I'm not a huge fan of the bags on the Heritage.
If they put cast alloy wheels and RK style bags (albeit, maybe slightly smaller to be to scale if the RK bags on't look right) on the Heritage, would you buy one?
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 14, 2019, 06:20:03 AM
I do have to agree, I'm not a huge fan of the bags on the Heritage.
If they put cast alloy wheels and RK style bags (albeit, maybe slightly smaller to be to scale if the RK bags on't look right) on the Heritage, would you buy one?

I hear there's already a kit to do that with the RK bags.

I'd still require a second front disc.

But yeah I'd be sorely tempted.

That said there's nothing wrong with the RK currently and I can manage the wait fine. Check back in say 10 years.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 14, 2019, 06:32:59 AM
OOOPS - you are, of course, correct sir, I WAS confusing that with my Objection to the Heritage! (which does sadly come with tubed spokes and even worse bags). While we're at it we can add a lack of driving lamps to the Sport Glide (though the Heritage has them).

When I look at the new softail lineup there is something about each and every bike that is a detractor for me purchasing and at the cost of those bikes it doesn't make economical sense to purchase than then make thousands of dollars to change.

IMO the Heritage needs tubeless tires to be a touring bike.  At least they have cruise control and the bags are now hard bags.
IMO the Sport Glide bags are very cheap looking as is the baby batwing.
IMO I love the 70s look of the Low Rider but feel too cramped with the mid controls
IMO I would buy a Slim S 114 in Army Green, and although I don't like tubes, it wouldn't venture too far from home or the trailer. 
IMO the fat rear tire on the Fat Boy and Breakout are not good for the Tennessee twisties.  I could see owning a Fat Boy if I were a city block rider or lived in Oklahoma. 
IMO the Street Bob with it's tube tires and tiny little speedo don't work for me.
IMO the Deluxe is cool looking but no more chrome polishing for me.  Tube tires and I think they dropped the cruise control. 
IMO the Fat Bob is the best of the new Softails but it probably needs mid controls for sporty riding. 
IMO the FXDR is over the top and looked kinda plasticy to me. 

For the local roads where I live good handling bikes with enough suspension travel for exploring are probably best. 
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 14, 2019, 07:09:41 AM
When I look at the new softail lineup there is something about each and every bike that is a detractor for me purchasing and at the cost of those bikes it doesn't make economical sense to purchase than then make thousands of dollars to change.

IMO the Heritage needs tubeless tires to be a touring bike.  At least they have cruise control and the bags are now hard bags.
IMO the Sport Glide bags are very cheap looking as is the baby batwing.
IMO I love the 70s look of the Low Rider but feel too cramped with the mid controls
IMO I would buy a Slim S 114 in Army Green, and although I don't like tubes, it wouldn't venture too far from home or the trailer. 
IMO the fat rear tire on the Fat Boy and Breakout are not good for the Tennessee twisties.  I could see owning a Fat Boy if I were a city block rider or lived in Oklahoma. 
IMO the Street Bob with it's tube tires and tiny little speedo don't work for me.
IMO the Deluxe is cool looking but no more chrome polishing for me.  Tube tires and I think they dropped the cruise control. 
IMO the Fat Bob is the best of the new Softails but it probably needs mid controls for sporty riding. 
IMO the FXDR is over the top and looked kinda plasticy to me. 

For the local roads where I live good handling bikes with enough suspension travel for exploring are probably best.

I get that list... though I wouldn't even look twice at most of the models. For me it's

Heritage - tubeless, better bags, dual discs, crash bars

Sport Glide - (I actually like the bags and could probably live with them) - dual discs, crash bars, floorboards

Fat Bob - mid-mounts or floorboards, add bags and a small shield

Of all those I'm really starting to think the Sport Glide could be the one.

But again, I REALLY have no need to get rid of my RK.

And well, I never thought I'd say this, but if Guzzi comes out with a Ambo on a smallblock platform holy crap, I might own THREE Guzzis at once.

Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: oilhed on May 14, 2019, 07:22:35 AM
Personally, I think the Heritage, Deluxe or even Low Rider would look good with adventure ammo can style panniers.  I like the Low Rider mag wheels (and Tach) it just needs a second disc brake up front.  That said the Road King is perfect.  I could just loose 100 pounds and switch to a mono shock...
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on May 14, 2019, 02:47:13 PM
f***ing harley discussion??? gimmie a break
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: Kev m on May 14, 2019, 05:07:06 PM
f***ing harley discussion??? gimmie a break

Have a beer, relax...
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: bad Chad on May 14, 2019, 11:06:40 PM
It’s in the rules, or it should be, “no excessive Harley blabbering. “
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: twowheeladdict on May 15, 2019, 07:09:12 AM
It’s in the rules, or it should be, “no excessive Harley blabbering. “

IMO there are more similarities between the bikes than differences.  Of course less maintenance with the Harleys though.  Harley has dabbled in liquid cooling though.
Title: Re: A new, V7III based 750cc Ambassador is coming?
Post by: oilhed on May 15, 2019, 10:21:51 AM
Have a beer, relax...
and some BBQ