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Interesting article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ditch-the-gps-its-ruining-your-brain/2019/06/05/29a3170e-87af-11e9-98c1-e945ae5db8fb_story.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab&utm_term=.a677ef23090a
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This article makes a very good point. In a similar vein, I try to avoid using my smartphone calculator to do basic arithmetic functions, preferring to do them in my head simply to keep my brain exercised. Although a cliche, this maxim is valid and applies to more than sex: "Use it or lose it".
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This article makes a very good point. In a similar vein, I try to avoid using my smartphone calculator to do basic arithmetic functions, preferring to do them in my head simply to keep my brain exercised. Although a cliche, this maxim is valid and applies to more than sex: "Use it or lose it".
Fully agree on the mental math...keeps the brain sharp.
I always get a chuckle out of some of the headlines I've seen in the past:
A majority of teenagers not good with math, says study citing 4 out of 10 teenagers kids can't do basic algebra. Just enjoy the smoke coming out of their ears when you give them 5.05 for a 4.05 latte at Starbucks and watch the confusion on their face!!
And my all time favorite: There are 3 kinds of people in this world...those good at math, and those not good at math!
:thumb: :thumb:
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Very interesting read, Charlie. I have a goldwing riding neighbor friend that is so dependent on his GPS, that when it went out on him in the middle of Phoenix, he freaked out and , pulled over, then called his wife at home 225 miles away, so she could "navigate" for him over the phone/bluetooth! :thewife:
I just forwarded the link to this article to my friend "Jim". Im sure he will get a kick out of it.
Rick.
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I use my GPS in the map mode much more than the navigation mode. I can read upcoming streets a lot easier and safer on the GPS than waiting until I can actually read the street sign.
Of course I can take a ride and then go home and retrace my steps on google maps which amazes some people. It is hard for me to find "new" roads, whereas for my wife they are new every time. :)
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Woolaroc can't be located using GPS :laugh:
I still prefer the "ask a local" method of navigation , of course more and more that ends with a local pulling out their smart phone , because they literally can't find their way across town sans GPS :laugh:
Dusty
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If you use the 'avoid highways' and accept unpaved roads, a gps can lead to all sorts of unexpected adventures.
N
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I can still do basic math including long division but can't do a square root. :undecided:
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Thank you for that Link, Charlie. The enemy must be acknowledged. I started my downhill run early this year. It's not at all pleasant.
Never used much more than dead reckoning and occasional hard copies while travelling all over the US and much of Europe by car, motorcycle and truck.
8.37Million miles, not counting MC miles. 65 years were enough. When I retired 4 years ago. I stay rather busy, but I'm losing the ability to do simple math, spell and navigate. I'm second guessing myself all the time. Worst feeling is forgetting the names of long time friends'. My often overly long stories are breaking up, details and 'that wrench was in my hand a split second ago'. Never had a cell phone or GPS. Years ago I tried to convince a colleague not use his GPS all the time. i.e. local trips hundreds of times? Never far from home? WT*!
So far perception/judgment seems not affected. I wanted to be just like Freddie Marsh. Ride something on two wheels 'til at least 101. Not gonna happen. R3~
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If you use the 'avoid highways' and accept unpaved roads, a gps can lead to all sorts of unexpected adventures.
N
If you use it as a sort of "toy", or as an auxiliary to actually finding your way around, I'm sure they can be fun.
But I've met too many people like the Gold Wing guy mentioned above, for whom they are like thumb-sucking, or a teddy bear; they get to where they can't live without them because they've turned into little wussies and let technology run their lives. And I mean guys who used to be secure, self-confident men; they just melt without their phone/GPS. It's like watching a friend who's become a quivering heroin addict and saying "He probably didn't think this would happen to him; damned if I'M going down that road just because it 'seems' OK".
Fay and I did 7500 miles all over the USA last fall with just a Rand-McNally road atlas. You can get just as lost and have just as many adventures that way as with a GPS set to take the "back roads" .... trust me!
Lannis
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If you use the 'avoid highways' and accept unpaved roads, a gps can lead to all sorts of unexpected adventures.
N
Especially if you just pick a spot on the map as opposed to a town or address. :thumb: I do that when I am on the Himalayan.
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The GPS is definitely a useful tool and I use it when necessary, but like Lannis, prefer to go "old school" when I can. Mostly i'm scrambling against the clock to hustle a kid or kids to a hockey game in an obscure ice rink somewhere off the Jersey Turnpike, so in those cases a GPS is a LIFESAVER. But in many cases, like if I'm investigating a tractor or old Guzzi somewhere, I'll draw a map by hand on an 8 x 11 sht of paper, with pertinent info, and use that, especially on the tankbag on my Cal 2. CAN'T STAND fumbling with my glasses to see a GPS clearly, whether in a car or on the bike.
One of my boy's hockey teammate's dad and I are great friends, and we often carpool to games. When he drives, he follows the GPS without question, even when we've been to a particular rink several times, and even when I point out a better way (the GPS route is NOT always the "best"). He always defaults to "Well, the GPS says to turn here...". Many times I've sat in silence gnashing my teeth as we sit in traffic.
I view blind reliance on the GPS and a major dumbing-down and knuckling under that diminishes your ability to make decisions on your own. Please don't become like Rick's Goldwing buddy.
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Woolaroc can't be located using GPS :laugh:
I still prefer the "ask a local" method of navigation , of course more and more that ends with a local pulling out their smart phone , because they literally can't find their way across town sans GPS :laugh:
Dusty
I'm never going to live that down! It's goes into the history file for Cedar Vale. My only defense is the back entrance USED to be open, but apparently the TomTom software hadn't been updated. But the side benefit was we got to ride a bit more, and Prescott's V7 never failed until we got to Woolaroc...so perhaps we should have kept riding and never arrived!
:)
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I was an OTR trucker from 1980-1983 been all over the USA using atlas and state maps and city maps....GPS is a GOD send! Best modern day invention bar none. Yup delivered 80,000 pound loads into LA and NYC with paper maps...you can bet your ASS that GPS beats that all to hell. Surprised you guys accept the little start button on the right twist grip. I used to kick start my motorcycle back in the day also, wouldn’t want to go back to that either.
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Interesting article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ditch-the-gps-its-ruining-your-brain/2019/06/05/29a3170e-87af-11e9-98c1-e945ae5db8fb_story.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab&utm_term=.a677ef23090a
Link comes up and wants me to pay to read the article.
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Have hired young delivery drivers that can’t go anywhere except by following the nav app instructions. If they lose signal or battery they are completely lost.
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I'm an old fashioned paper map guy, still have a collection of over 100+ topographical maps from my whitewater wilderness canoeing days, I like the security blanket of having "real" data or information on a hard copy map on my tank bag for reference.
I haven't made the jump yet, but where I can see the benefit of GPS is being in a new confusing area and having the info readily at hand to get me to where I want to go, without having to stop or being distracted trying to read a map at speed (dangerous & impossible for my eyes).
There is one particular area that I ride in, where there are a bunch of secondary rural roads all coming together from different directions, below Plevna/McDonald's Corners area Highways # 12, # 36, # 509, #506? etc; I've gotten twisted around in that area more times than I can count, I was never lost, I just didn't know where the hell I was,lol. But I always ended up on great riding roads and learned lots about the riding in that area.
Like so many things in life, some of these devices can be great tools, but they are killing our ability to venture out armed only with our wits and sense of adventure and the feeling of accomplishment when you make it home in one piece, jmho
Kelly
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There's a place in your brain that stores places and faces. Mine took a really big hit when I was a kid. I don't recognize faces unless I've seen them often, and still won't if I see them in a place that I don't expect. Sorry if I don't remember you, it's not because I don't care. :smiley: I'd make a very poor salesman or politician..and *don't* ask me to describe that bank robber. :smiley:
That said, I will be going to somewhere I have been many times, and occasionally not remember whether to turn right or left to get there. <shrug> Instead of "falling" dreams, I have "lost" dreams.
Needless to say, I was an early adopter of GPS. Without it, I'd still probably be on the interstates of SoCal trying to find Redondo Beach when I first rode the 1000 SP out there all those years ago.
Also, programs like Waze will route you around traffic jams, tell you where the po leece are lurking, etc. :grin: For me, it is a *great* tool.
That said, I used to be a great speller. Not any more, the computer makes it so easy to get close and let the auto fill complete the word.
Like any crutch, the more you use it, the more you depend on it..
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yeah,
I never use GPS...
Means I actually learn the route for next time
More and more often when I stop to ask locals or other bikers/drivers for directions, they all seem to pull out their phones and look totally bewildered.
The most confusing question of all seems to be something like 'am I heading north on this road?'
It's more pronounced in the states than in europe, but we're catching up quick.
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Fully agree on the mental math...keeps the brain sharp.
I always get a chuckle out of some of the headlines I've seen in the past:
A majority of teenagers not good with math, says study citing 4 out of 10 teenagers kids can't do basic algebra. Just enjoy the smoke coming out of their ears when you give them 5.05 for a 4.05 latte at Starbucks and watch the confusion on their face!!
And my all time favorite: There are 3 kinds of people in this world...those good at math, and those not good at math!
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"A majority" is not 4 out of 10. I guess statistics is dead, too- lol!
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There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those that don’t.
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Pilot work load; always looking for ways to reduce it. Coupled GPS with Bluetooth headset when I spent a week in DC. Sure was nice to spend 100% of my time watching traffic with no worry about navigation.
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I never had a GPS until last week and I like to think I have ridden my fair bit just fine without. My wife and I are flying our BMW 1600 to Europe in late August for a two month exploring ride of former Eastern Europe. We decided adding the BMW / Garmin Nav to the dash panel would help us find our way around. I was able to get the NAV five for $640 CDN and then add all of Europe maps for about $120. I keep my BMW and a KLR in Phoenix and need to get the beemer back to Canada for August to prep her for the belly of the plane. My older son and I left Phoenix last Sunday riding to the Grand Canyon, then Las Vegas, Yosemite, two nights in San Francisco and now working our way up the Oregon coast before turning north east for Canada and home through the Rockies. Having that GPS was sure great for getting some through Oakland and San Francisco. I think it will be a big + for Europe.
PS. BMW of San Francisco were excellent, changed out a worn tire with no notice in a morning, there are a lot of great people out there! :
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It's all in how one uses a tool. Discriminate...and maybe expand your horizons a little. It doesn't discredit the old ways...it expands them.
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I use a GPS a lot now, just to get home, from places that I know a dozen ways to get home from. But the reason is that I'm using Waze to identify traffic jams. There is currently no road near me that does not has some major traffic and construction. Toss in a couple of roads (bridges) that are completely blocked, and Waze has saved me a lot of hours.
Aside from the construction headaches, I use a GPS mainly as a moving map. I have ridden with people often that study a paper map for hours before a trip. Yet in the end, they realize that I found some more interesting roads then they would have ever been on by just looking at a paper map. When riding, I seldom let the box do the A to B, just a good map on the screen is all.
Using the GPS when in the RV helps a lot. Knowing what lane you need to be in long before a highway splits is a good thing.
But then, I have seen people use a GPS, and still not know north from east, or even what state they are in at the time. Everybody's brain works differently.
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There are 3 kinds of people in this world...those good at math, and those not good at math!
Hey now, That's not funny. I'm in the third half of that group!
Paul B :boozing:
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I use my GPS in the map mode much more than the navigation mode. I can read upcoming streets a lot easier and safer on the GPS than waiting until I can actually read the street sign.
Of course I can take a ride and then go home and retrace my steps on google maps which amazes some people. It is hard for me to find "new" roads, whereas for my wife they are new every time. :)
I really like this benefit of the GPS when searching for road names without worrying about someone running up behind me...That said I started out in Geographic Planning at School and had several Cartography classes....lol OMG has the world changed since stereo plotters and pinning together sets of aerial photos to make maps!
I love maps and have held on to every one I've used...cracks me up that some cartographers can have a sense of humor and place made up names such as Goblue and Beatosu just south of the Michigan border....everythin g you see on an old printed map may not actually be there lol
I have great respect for the early surveyors that mapped the US...if you are interested and have time the next time you are at your county seat stop in the register of deeds and look up the original local survey books....you can typically find notes that include how the crews managed to be out for months at a time...with shopping list including salt pork, beef, and grains to keep the men well fed...and typically ending each day with a Polaris reference shot to aid in their next days survey! Cool stuff
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I use my garmin when I travel for work all week, it’s great for finding specific addresses and knowing exactly when you’ll arrive at a destination for an appointment, never had an appointment at willowroc however. But on weekends and or on a motorcycle ride, it’s kind of a buzzkill for me. Last thing I want to do is gawk at another damn screen. I like a map.
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Someone has to say “dead reconing” eventually 🤔
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I'm surprised nobody has used the word "sextant."
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Geeze Pres get your mind out of the gutter :grin:
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See my early post 6/7 @ 3:42pm. + I've a great friend with a 46' sail boat , - currently. That man can reckon. R3~
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On road trips in the dodge caravan we still use microsoft streets and maps. On a 15" screen you can see a lot, or zoom in to see the little roads. I have gpx files for blm, national forest and coe camp grounds. We look at the map before starting out in the morning to get general direction in the morning, then follow gps to a campground some time after noon. 40000 miles over any road that had enough ground clearance.
On motorcycle I use gps on my phone a couple times a year, mostly to find if I should turn left or right to find on my way home.
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I still enjoy the mental exercise of putting a route together and committing it to memory . Yesterday I checked the road closings in Tulsa , the site neglected to mention that the Northbound side of US 75 was completely closed for several miles from the point I needed to access it just Northwest of downtown . Ended up in a neighborhood that was somewhat familiar , stopped for a moment and did a mental calculation of where I was , then found a way to US 412 based on dead reckoning that took me West of Tulsa then on to Cedar Vale . The biggest obstacle was a bicycle race happening in and around downtown , the city had closed several surface streets , requiring calling up a mental image of a map of the area , it helped to have the compass points in my head , and recognizing some landmarks like the old Union train station . As long as you have at least one compass point in your head , navigating isn't that difficult , and can be satisfying to work out .
Dusty
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That is pretty impressive Dusty, you manage to pull off your pilgrimage from Muskogee to Cedar vale three or four times a year 👍. Not bad for someone your age. I’m sure it helps rubbing cyber-elbows with all the geniuses here too 😀
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I used to believe in that conventional wisdom, until I had to find pre booked accomodation in Berlin 2 hrs after dark in the rain.
I never really missed the paper map.
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That is pretty impressive Dusty, you manage to pull off your pilgrimage from Muskogee to Cedar vale three or four times a year 👍. Not bad for someone your age. I’m sure it helps rubbing cyber-elbows with all the geniuses here too 😀
Yeah , but I piece together a different route every time :tongue: Dealing with Tulsa has become a nightmare , the roads and bridges are crumbling , toll roads everywhere , hate those things . Problem is , the best way around Tulsa requires using US 69 for several miles , then US 412 for a few miles. 69 looks like it has been bombed , and crazy people drive 412 :laugh:
Dusty
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I'm sure there is a way for you to get from Muskogee to Cedar Vale via Woolaroc...I've heard there is a back entrance they'll let you go thru if you can prove you are using mental GPS and not one of those foolhardy TomTom devices!
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I'm sure there is a way for you to get from Muskogee to Cedar Vale via Woolaroc...I've heard there is a back entrance they'll let you go thru if you can prove you are using mental GPS and not one of those foolhardy TomTom devices!
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There is , and I was at the store we stopped in on the West end of Bartlesville just yesterday . But going straight South of Woolaroc take you into the heart of Tulsa . If there hadn't been a Bassa in the back of the Nissan , and there had been more than 2 hours of daylight left , would have gone over to Claremore , then down HW 88 . Hate driving after dark , especially when the headlights are looking into the sky :grin:
Next year we'll take a route thru B'ville over to Eastern OK , will show you a fun road going South to take you home .
Dusty
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. Could someone find me a route from Chadwick, mo to Willard with some straight road? These curves down here are killin’ me :wink:
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That’s just mean John.
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Last weekend my daughter and I went camping in Anza Borrego desert east of San Diego. I'd been to borrego springs a few times and intended to take the sate route 67 up through Ramona and Julian and drop down from the mountains on the sr 79. She was convinced that her navigational gps program was faster so I humored her. We drove up to escondido winding through valley center and the sr76... and at least an hour longer. Any time spent with my kids, all grown now, is good time. But we reached Fish creek wash and split mountain at 5:30, just enough time to setup camp. Great trails and hiking the next morning :smiley:
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Last weekend my daughter and I went camping in Anza Borrego desert east of San Diego. I'd been to borrego springs a few times and intended to take the sate route 67 up through Ramona and Julian and drop down from the mountains on the sr 79. She was convinced that her navigational gps program was faster so I humored her. We drove up to escondido winding through valley center and the sr76... and at least an hour longer. Any time spent with my kids, all grown now, is good time. But we reached Fish creek wash and split mountain at 5:30, just enough time to setup camp. Great trails and hiking the next morning :smiley:
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Nice. When I hear the word "wash" my first thought was I hope they checked the weather forecast. Now a days you can do that on your smart phone, but I guess it would be better to read the sky in the morning and the wind and barometric pressure and work out the weather forecast for yourself so you can keep your mind sharp. :thumb: We all know that is what Dusty does. :shocked:
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Nice. When I hear the word "wash" my first thought was I hope they checked the weather forecast. Now a days you can do that on your smart phone, but I guess it would be better to read the sky in the morning and the wind and barometric pressure and work out the weather forecast for yourself so you can keep your mind sharp. We all know that is what Dusty does. :shocked:
Obviously you haven't ever met me , ask some of the Cedar Vale attendees about my relationship with the weather .
Dusty
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The Rain Goddess likes Dusty. A lot.. :evil: :smiley:
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When travelling I perferto wander in the general direction toward a not so well defined destination with out getting directions from my GPS. But I won't leave home to tour without it. It's the perfect tool to help me find gas, lodging, food, etc. when I need those things. Nut'n more frustrating then not finding a bed, a beer, or a burger whenya need it.
Paul
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When travelling I perferto wander in the general direction toward a not so well defined destination with out getting directions from my GPS. But I won't leave home to tour without it. It's the perfect tool to help me find gas, lodging, food, etc. when I need those things. Nut'n more frustrating then not finding a bed, a beer, or a burger whenya need it.
Paul
When I am wandering I have it on breadcrumb mode so I can zoom out and see the circuitous route I took to get nowhere.
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The Rain Goddess likes Dusty. A lot.. :evil: :smiley:
Are you saying Dusty is misnamed? Muddy would be more appropriate?
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I can still do basic math including long division but can't do a square root. :undecided:
Doesn’t matter whether it’s square or round, as long as you get one.. :wink:
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Maybe one of the cows can read the signs for him ..... ?
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That cartoon reminds me of the time I rode from Portland OR to Pennsylvania for a rally. Somewhere in Missouri it was getting late, a big storm was coming in and I was tired after another 800 mile day on the slab. I plugged into the GPS where I wanted to go, and it directed me through a town and onto the back streets. I figured I must have told it to go the most direct route, so just did what it said even though it seemed pretty strange, eventually turning into gravel. Out in the country on this very crowned gravel road with a strong cross-wind at night. The wind would get the bike edging over to the ditch on the ball-bearing gravel, so I had to ride on the opposite side of the road. It went on and on and on. Eventually I found a place near a power station to set up the tent and figure it out in the morning. I probably went fifty or sixty miles out of my way with that mistake, but it was nice camping and watching the fireflies that night. Hadn't seen them since I was a kid visiting my grandma's farm in the Ozarks in the early 60s.
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Ya'll know that those GPS databases get updated, right. Garmin does four a year, I believe. An update should be sought before any trip to points unknown. Also, I've found that navigation units take a while to orient themselves when first powered up.
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Ya'll know that those GPS databases get updated, right. Garmin does four a year, I believe. An update should be sought before any trip to points unknown. Also, I've found that navigation units take a while to orient themselves when first powered up.
Fair points...all true. Just updated my TomTom again last week...
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When I used GPS on the bike, me and a buddy took a trip to the Virginia National Rally. He never noticed I had the GPS and I didn't mention it. We went from SW Missouri to the rally and never looked at a map one time. He asked me how I knew where the rally was, I just shrugged my shoulders and handed him a brew.
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My friend Carl and I did three laps in the Williams River Wilderness Area (WV) following his GPS, finally ended up asking some locals how to get out to WV39. Another lap and my XT500 would have been out of gas.
Then there's the time my friend Joseph left the Cass BMW Rally for Elkins, WV to attend Mass at 11 am and didn't return until 11 pm. His GPS set on "direct route" not only sent him down FR44 (two-track dirt, Forest Road) through Monongahela National Forest, but down a "short cut" that was gated (7 miles in and 7 back out). Did I mention he was riding a '72 Eldorado? :grin: Elkins is roughly 45 road miles from Boyer Station.
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I can credibly claim to be an 'original' GPS user having used the military 'plugger' system in Desert Storm some.....oh holy lord....28 years ago....wow. Was essential to success in the featureless Rhub al Khali desert. There were three whole contour lines on my map. That said, have always been a map guy. Can spend hours looking at them.
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So, no @#$@#% there I was, a Lieutenant Colonel in an Airborne Brigade in Italy and a Lieutenant asks where a good camping area is. I pulled out a province map and showed him the spot and explained the route and the kid looks at me and says "um...ok Sir..do you just have an address I can plug into my GPS?" I don't recall exactly what I said, but it was something like 'you're a light infantry officer, map reading and navigation is one of you're fundamental skills'...or...words to that effect. Mentoring, that's the word for it. :violent1:
I do find my smart phone gps helpful when navigating a city I don't know tho.
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This article makes a very good point. In a similar vein, I try to avoid using my smartphone calculator to do basic arithmetic functions, preferring to do them in my head simply to keep my brain exercised. Although a cliche, this maxim is valid and applies to more than sex: "Use it or lose it".
Waaaayyy back when I was a young pup (maybe late 50s?), I acquired a recent copy of Playboy magazine. I wanted to read the articles. Therein I found a short story which I have remembered my whole life. Far in the future, our protagonist was sitting bored at office meeting conference table. He was doodling with a pencil and numbers and realized that he could mentally compute addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. He quickly pulled out his mandatory pocket computer and verified that the numbers he was coming up with in his head were actually accurate. He started to share his trick discovery with co-workers, friends, relatives, etc. Eventually he was committed as a lunatic and life for the rest went on as normal.
How much presage is that???
I wonder if the publisher has a historical, digitized library and the short story could be discovered? I'll try. It may be some time before I report back as there may be various distractions.
Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
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My friend Carl and I did three laps in the Williams River Wilderness Area (WV) following his GPS, finally ended up asking some locals how to get out to WV39. Another lap and my XT500 would have been out of gas.
Then there's the time my friend Joseph left the Cass BMW Rally for Elkins, WV to attend Mass at 11 am and didn't return until 11 pm. His GPS set on "direct route" not only sent him down FR44 (two-track dirt, Forest Road) through Monongahela National Forest, but down a "short cut" that was gated (7 miles in and 7 back out). Did I mention he was riding a '72 Eldorado? :grin: Elkins is roughly 45 road miles from Boyer Station.
User error. You should always look at the GPS and make sure it is going to navigate you to where you want to go. There is some common sense involved with using a GPS. It is a tool, and like any tool when in the hands of a qualified user can provide great results.
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Maybe one of the cows can read the signs for him ..... ?
The riders says his Navi has no power and his cell phone is also empty. He's lost!! Moo.
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I used to navigate by Thomas Guide around town. It’s a book of maps with pages, grids, and an index. Look up the street name, it gives you a page and grid. LA county is about 200 pages of maps.
I trained all kids and employees on how to use it. Put the page and grid on all my maps.
It’s dead now. To buy Thomas guides for 5 or 6 counties probably cost more than a simple GPS.
GPS is great for around town on a bike.
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I lived temporarily in Los Angeles during the early 80s and did moving and hauling part time. Never could have done it without the Thomas Guide. That was how you did it back then.
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The riders says his Navi has no power and his cell phone is also empty. He's lost!! Moo.
Well, quite, but I think that the point of the cartoon is that he is sitting right under 4 road signs that point in every direction, and yet he's STILL lost because he's forgotten what signs do ..... !
Someday we'll be chimps flying airplanes and will have forgotten how they're made ....
Lannis