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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ScepticalScotty on June 08, 2019, 06:26:33 PM
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Theres been a few things online and in the press here - its getting very good reviews. No its not as good off road as the KTM790, but its pretty good and its a LOT cheaper. Its also less "on it" than the KTM, and easier handle for those inclined to bimble or pootle, rather than fang. So it looks like the wait was worth it after all.
Still, I'd have the V85TT. :grin:
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Me too. The Tenere seems a bit too much of one thing & not enough of the other. Great in the dirt, but a bit of a slug on the road. Gimme an old-school DR650 & I can spend the change on getting it ready for long distance outback touring: big tank, subframe strengthening, bags etc.
Or the V85TT. Just needs a new midpipe, a cored original can, sealed spoke nipples & you're already there!
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Me too. The Tenere seems a bit too much of one thing & not enough of the other. Great in the dirt, but a bit of a slug on the road. Gimme an old-school DR650 & I can spend the change on getting it ready for long distance outback touring: big tank, subframe strengthening, bags etc.
Or the V85TT. Just needs a new midpipe, a cored original can, sealed spoke nipples & you're already there!
Slug? I had a FZ-07. It is no Slug! The engine is amazing in those bikes. The rest of the FZ-07 was budget oriented though.
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To qualify: a slug when loaded up for touring/camping. In reality, without having ridden one yet, it's mere conjecture on my part, but on the open road there's "no replacement like cubic displacement".
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Sometimes, smaller and lighter is a good thing..."Less is more!" :laugh: :grin: :wink: This is a nice ride! :cool: :thumb:
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This seems to be a pretty good assessment. It looks like a fun bike though that will do well in the rough.
https://youtu.be/WppunsAeEKg
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Unless one is riding steadily over 100 mph, or in really heavy cross winds there is no need for more power or weight.
This is my opinion after putting 30,000 miles on a Concours 1400 and another 10,000 miles on a Trophy SE 1250 triple.
(https://i.ibb.co/kqm2XZB/002-Givi-Luggage.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kqm2XZB)
Now, if you are going to exceed the weight rating, then maybe something with a larger capacity is needed.
To qualify: a slug when loaded up for touring/camping. In reality, without having ridden one yet, it's mere conjecture on my part, but on the open road there's "no replacement like cubic displacement".
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My 800XC was way over weight for off-road use. If the 660 Tenere had been available I would have bought that instead.
I'd consider this bike once there is some positive feedback about the luggage and subframe. Seems like all the reviews are about its dual sport capabilities and not about its touring capabilities. It's odd that few reviewers ever consider these attributes on a touring bike.
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My 800XC was way over weight for off-road use. If the 660 Tenere had been available I would have bought that instead.
I'd consider this bike once there is some positive feedback about the luggage and subframe. Seems like all the reviews are about its dual sport capabilities and not about its touring capabilities. It's odd that few reviewers ever consider these attributes on a touring bike.
I don't think the Tenere 700 would be considered a touring bike. 4 inch wide seat, no cruise control, and not even sure what its carrying capacity is. I'm sure you can put a giant loop or wolfpack luggage on it which is all I would consider if using the bike for what it is intended for.
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I don't think the Tenere 700 would be considered a touring bike. 4 inch wide seat, no cruise control, and not even sure what its carrying capacity is. I'm sure you can put a giant loop or wolfpack luggage on it which is all I would consider if using the bike for what it is intended for.
If it isn't an Adventure touring bike then what is it? At 450 lbs. it's certainly not a dual-sport....certainly not one that I'd want to spend the day picking up. That's even heavier than the KLR 650!
My 800XC doesn't have cruise control and it's marketed as an "ADV touring" bike.
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If it isn't an Adventure touring bike then what is it? At 450 lbs. it's certainly not a dual-sport....certainly not one that I'd want to spend the day picking up. That's even heavier than the KLR 650!
My 800XC doesn't have cruise control and it's marketed as an "ADV touring" bike.
I just went to Triumph's website and only see your bike classified as an Adventure bike.
Go take a look at the KTM 790. It has a more touring oriented seat and provisions for hard luggage and it is classified as an Adventure bike.
While Yamaha does use the term Adventure Touring when describing the Tenere 700 even though with that 4 inch wide seat the touring better be single track touring because you will be standing as much as possible.
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/adventure-touring/models/tenere-700
This would be a bike to do the TAT on, and if you are a prior competitive off-roader can handle off road like all the videos show. Definitely would not want to spend time on the interstate or sitting down for long on this bike.
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Nice review of the Tenere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MrZzVOroPE
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I just went to Triumph's website and only see your bike classified as an Adventure bike.
Go take a look at the KTM 790. It has a more touring oriented seat and provisions for hard luggage and it is classified as an Adventure bike.
While Yamaha does use the term Adventure Touring when describing the Tenere 700 even though with that 4 inch wide seat the touring better be single track touring because you will be standing as much as possible.
https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/adventure-touring/models/tenere-700
This would be a bike to do the TAT on, and if you are a prior competitive off-roader can handle off road like all the videos show. Definitely would not want to spend time on the interstate or sitting down for long on this bike.
I don't see any issues with the seat on the Tenere. Then again I've crossed half the US on a stock DR650 seat. I'd ride that bike (on the stock seat) to South America if it weren't for the weak 3rd gear.
It's starting to appear that the Tenere 700 is some sort of giant, over-weight...dual sport(?). I'm not sure how much dual there can be though at that weight. My Tiger sure wasn't suitable for anything more than double track and gravel roads.
I do believe that factory heated grips, factory 3 piece luggage, factory heated gear outlets and factory "touring" windshields DO make the Tiger an "Adventure Touring" bike.
This bike blurs the lines further...not that they were never very clear to begin with. When I bought the Tiger 800XC I thought ADV bikes were dual-sports. Lol! I sure don't think that now. I bought the instructional videos, read the how-to books and practiced for hours and hours. I got better with the 475lb. Tiger off-road but it never turned into a "dual sport". At the end of the day it was a fragile, heavy, street bike with an insatiable appetite for knobby tires.
The new Tenere looks like more of the same...minus 25lbs.
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I don't see any issues with the seat on the Tenere. Then again I've crossed half the US on a stock DR650 seat. I'd ride that bike (on the stock seat) to South America if it weren't for the weak 3rd gear.
It's starting to appear that the Tenere 700 is some sort of giant, over-weight...dual sport(?). I'm not sure how much dual there can be though at that weight. My Tiger sure wasn't suitable for anything more than double track and gravel roads.
I do believe that factory heated grips, factory 3 piece luggage, factory heated gear outlets and factory "touring" windshields DO make the Tiger an "Adventure Touring" bike.
This bike blurs the lines further...not that they were never very clear to begin with. When I bought the Tiger 800XC I thought ADV bikes were dual-sports. Lol! I sure don't think that now. I bought the instructional videos, read the how-to books and practiced for hours and hours. I got better with the 475lb. Tiger off-road but it never turned into a "dual sport". At the end of the day it was a fragile, heavy, street bike with an insatiable appetite for knobby tires.
The new Tenere looks like more of the same...minus 25lbs.
I went from a DRZ-400S Dual Sport to a KLR650 Adventure bike, to a KLX250S. For me the closer to 200 lbs the better when it comes to dual sports. Now I have the Himalayan 400 and am really enjoying the lower seat height and mule like capability.
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Even a 300 lb dual sport is too heavy if your goal is serious off-road adventure. However, if you wish to explore Forest Service roads or other graded/unpaved roads, something like this bike is pure gold. I can see traveling through national parks and forests on a bike like this...it can even get you there. In a world of 625 lb ADV behemoths, the 700 Tenere is a refreshing change.