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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: frans belgium on June 24, 2019, 07:23:08 AM
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I’ve been riding bikes for longer than I care to remember, and Guzzi for almost the last 20 years, 3 years of Beemer excluded.
I’ve been a member of this forum since the days it still had the akward question-response shape (must have been end of 1990).
I own a V85 TT for 2 months now, rode 2/3 of this period (been abroad) and now have 3000 km+ in all sorts of conditions. Alone, with pillion, all kinds of weather and terrain.
I’ve beenI praising the V85 endlessly, on almost all of its aspects, and given detailed riding reports.
And yet, up to now, I got no attention and no questions.
Every day, I'm reading people asking questions on things I already dealt with.
Fine with me, and really, really, don’t get me wrong – I really do NOT want attention.
(If you don’t believe that, that’s fine with me).
But I recently read a
report from a US countryman that everybody jumped on.
So, hence my question
Do you really need to live or ride in the Us or be a well known Australian to get read ont his board?
Don’t you trust my riding reports? ;-)
Fine with me.
Go out and ride the V85 yourself, extensively.
This thing might backfire on me when the V85 finally turns out to be a pita.
But up to now?
Great bike and certainly the best Guzzi I ever rode (And I rode a few) !
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I think you need to post more pics! :thumb: :boozing:
But I'm all ears.
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How comfortable is the seat and do you like riding with a passenger for extended distances?
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I don't recall reading any detailed ride reports from you?
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Of course we trust you Frans , although like Cam I don't remember any detailed report from you , could be lost in the shuffle . Now is you chance to enlighten us :thumb:
Dusty
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I'm glad it's everything you hoped it would be. I think it is a well thought out and executed design. Seems Aprilia's influence will continue to be a good thing for the brand,
(fingers crossed) It's funny, your observation regarding the forum responses, reminds me of when the 1400's first hit the sight. There was very little mentioned of a really huge shift for MG design. It wasn't until one had a glitch that people started chiming in. Seems most people prefer to comment on a brands flaws way more than it's successes on these forums. And I don't think that's all bad intentions, probably the opposite, around here anyway. This seems to largely be a group of folks who truly want to help others in any way they can. Many here are severely mechanically inclined and enjoy the challenge of helping to solve problems simply by sharing their knowledge and experience. I think that's why so many more responses pour into problem related threads vs ones full of great news. I will just add that it's nice to see members here ,like yourself ,with a long history of motorcycling and having owned many geese and other brands giving such high marks to the new 85.
For me personally my square fin 850 is my favorite Guzzi motor to date. I can only imagine how much better the new motor must be. I hope to get a test ride soon but in the meantime I have really valued all of you v85 owners sharing your reviews , even if this is my first reply. Please keep them coming!
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Don't take it personal. Nobody reads or comments on anything I post either <shrug> I like the V85 but I know I won't be getting one so therefore I don't have much to say.
Keep posting, why not??
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I enjoy reading your posts.
Some of the big fish in our little pond, post a lot, we all know their names, nothing wrong with that. Frans, I think your stuff get read a lot more than you think.
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I’ve been riding bikes for longer than I care to remember, and Guzzi for almost the last 20 years, 3 years of Beemer excluded.
I’ve been a member of this forum since the days it still had the akward question-response shape (must have been end of 1990).
I own a V85 TT for 2 months now, rode 2/3 of this period (been abroad) and now have 3000 km+ in all sorts of conditions. Alone, with pillion, all kinds of weather and terrain.
I’ve beenI praising the V85 endlessly, on almost all of its aspects, and given detailed riding reports.
And yet, up to now, I got no attention and no questions.
Every day, I'm reading people asking questions on things I already dealt with.
Fine with me, and really, really, don’t get me wrong – I really do NOT want attention.
(If you don’t believe that, that’s fine with me).
But I recently read a
report from a US countryman that everybody jumped on.
So, hence my question
Do you really need to live or ride in the Us or be a well known Australian to get read ont his board?
Don’t you trust my riding reports? ;-)
Fine with me.
Go out and ride the V85 yourself, extensively.
This thing might backfire on me when the V85 finally turns out to be a pita.
But up to now?
Great bike and certainly the best Guzzi I ever rode (And I rode a few) !
I have REALLY enjoyed your posts on the V85, it is encouraging me to take a look at one, so I am grateful and hope you will provide more info as you ride it. It does sound like a home run for Guzzi, which is cool!
And as others have said, I think a lot of this board focuses on negatives or failures rather than positives, not sure what that is about but I do enjoy the posts that say something positive about the brand.
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I think it has a lot to do with the number of posts. F B has just over 1000. The more frequent posters have 10X or 20X or more than that, so they're just better known.
Rich A
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I have REALLY enjoyed your posts on the V85, it is encouraging me to take a look at one, so I am grateful and hope you will provide more info as you ride it. It does sound like a home run for Guzzi, which is cool!
And as others have said, I think a lot of this board focuses on negatives or failures rather than positives, not sure what that is about but I do enjoy the posts that say something positive about the brand.
VERY TRUE^^^a negative post will go on forever! I have to come up with one now and then to see if my computer works :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Write about Belgium beer, you will get loads of replies.
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What is a V85 ?
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Jeez, that’s not what I thought it would be Frans.
I feared it may have been a comment on how you seemed to have been discarded by me on the Thursday because events transpired to make an arrival impossible.
I’m glad it was not...
Peter.
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I went back and looked at your posts Frans and yes you do post about how great the V85 is and I don't know why that isn't commented upon as much as other reports. I believe you (and need to since mine should be in my hands within two weeks) and appreciate what you find with the bike and second the comment about more pictures :gotpics: .
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I think you need to post more pics! :thumb: :boozing:
I like pictures :gotpics: :gotpics: :gotpics:
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Frans, I enjoyed your detailed write-up on the V85 in the threadfest and glad you posted it. More evidence that Guzzi is building a bike people like. I didn't reply, because I've got no plans to buy one (yet) and I didn't have any questions. Maybe it didn't get as much attention because it was in 55 pages of other posts? I don't know. Still it's good information.
Here's hoping your liver heals! :boozing:
and yet another vote for :gotpics:
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Once we actually take possession of our bikes in the USA, then the comments will flow. Getting close. Rest assured your posts have been read.
Speaking of red, mine is the red and white as well. So, we have at least that much in common, oh yeah, and both in our middle 60's.
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Oooops. Almost forgot. I do have a question for you. Have you had the opportunity to confirm that the red/white ones are actually the fastest compared to the other colors?
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Oooops. Almost forgot. I do have a question for you. Have you had the opportunity to confirm that the red/white ones are actually the fastest compared to the other colors?
Hope so, that's the one I'm waiting on too.
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How comfortable is the seat and do you like riding with a passenger for extended distances?
Stock seat is impeccable and my long term companion (wife) says she feels like being in her sofa at home (her words, not mine). Best pillion seat ever for her. I DID have the pillion rests swapped for the Wunderlich pegs I had on my Bmw. These are adjustable. They are put a bit higher and slightly more forward, which makes it easier for the pillion to mount (especially with all the cases) and her toes don't get in the way of my heels. Hours of uninterrupted riding.
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Jeez, that’s not what I thought it would be Frans.
I feared it may have been a comment on how you seemed to have been discarded by me on the Thursday because events transpired to make an arrival impossible.
I’m glad it was not...
Peter.
:grin:
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Everybody wants pics?
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Write about Belgium beer, you will get loads of replies.
My favorite
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Hi Franz,
Glad to hear that you are happy with your V85. I got one last week and have put 450 miles on so far. I would agree with all your sentiments. I'm particularly impressed with the ride / handling package on the usual bumpy UK roads. For me the only downside is that the gearbox is a bit clonky around town. But then it's shaft drive and I suppose that's the trade off. Once out of town it's fine.
Where are you in Flanders Franz? I have customers in Waregem and Deinze who I'm planning to visit next week.
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Nice photos frans and Glawster! Thanks for them. Based on your comments frans I'm guessing you find the stock screen adequate for your riding? I'm going to leave off buying the taller touring screen as I want to see how the stock screen performs and what other companies come up with if I need to change the stock one out.
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I enjoy reading your posts.
Some of the big fish in our little pond, post a lot, we all know their names, nothing wrong with that. Frans, I think your stuff get read a lot more than you think.
+1
And I have tried the v85 and agree, it's a very nice bike, and I really want it, but I just can't let my Griso go (and I want juste one bike, as I ride too little jo justify being a multibike-owner)...
If the v85 had 110 bhp and 17 inch wheels, the griso would be gone, though...
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Where are you in Flanders Franz? I have customers in Waregem and Deinze who I'm planning to visit next week.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48125019722_6f96f28a7f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gjDiHm)20190619_203706 (https://flic.kr/p/2gjDiHm) by Derek0812 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/79848745@N02/), on Flickr
You've got mail ...
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Based on your comments frans I'm guessing you find the stock screen adequate for your riding?
Stock screen is fine with me. But I'm only 1.72 m and barn door screens never were my thing.
The only Guzzi stock screen that I was happy with, was the one on my Norge.
The V85 screen is good enough, keeps the pressure off the chest and shoulders and no buffetting, which is the most important for me.
Now and then you meet a kamikaze fly that splatters all over your helmet visor, though ;-)
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Hi Franz,
For me the only downside is that the gearbox is a bit clonky around town.
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Yes, it can be clunky, especially 1-2-3 up.
If you shift very carefully, exactly at the sweet spot, you might get lucky.
But that does not particularly bother me, as otherwise it shifts quite smoothly.
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My favorite
(https://i.ibb.co/sgr102f/orval.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sgr102f)
That's better.
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Yes, it can be clunky, especially 1-2-3 up.
If you shift very carefully, exactly at the sweet spot, you might get lucky.
But that does not particularly bother me, as otherwise it shifts quite smoothly.
Tried any clutchless upchanges yet?
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Franz, You Tube has featured many videos from their Sardinia launch and I am afraid they have overshadowed forum members accounts. I'm sure most of us understand your frustrations.
I am sitting on the sidelines as a spectator, the seating position seems too upright, hence no questions from me. Still hoping for a V85 LeMans someday.
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I haven't noticed your posts but I have been gallivanting a bit lately so I could have easily missed them. Also, if your reviews have gotten lumped into the merged V85 thread, they could have easily gone unnoticed by me and perhaps others. It has grown to the point I quit keeping track of it. Merged threads segment responses because of post date. They get intermingled with each other, (sorted by date), and that makes them difficult to follow, so I don't. Although I understand the reasoning behind merged threads, I don't particularly care for them for the reason stated above.
But, NO, you are not chopped liver. :grin:
John Henry
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I've been enjoying your posts, but I'm just a bit quiet over here as I don't have a Guzzi any longer nor do I have much to add!
Really think they did a good job on the V85, from your reports and others, despite it not being a technological marvel, etc.
I'll be moving back to Germany this Fall, won't be terribly far from Belgium, maybe we'll meet someday!
Until then, I'll just keep reading your posts on the V85! When I'm financially more stable we might consider getting some bikes again, a V85tt is nice, or maybe a LeMans if they do it. :)
-Joe
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Nut'n wrong with liver..... :weiner:
I'm always glad to hear others experiences. BRING IT, PLEASE.
What do you feel are the 3 best things and the 3 worse things about your V85? :popcorn:
Paul
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I've also enjoyed your reviews Franz.
I am curious about the V85 frame. What would Guzzi have to do to build a road bike version - build a new frame entirely or merely change the subframe (which doesn't appear to be bolted on as is common these days) and forks etc?
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Everybody wants pics?
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OK , now I remember , always have been better with faces than names :laugh: Nice bike :thumb:
Dusty
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My favorite
(https://i.ibb.co/sgr102f/orval.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sgr102f)
Now ya talkin. :boozing: :grin:
Seriously, I do read your posts as I find them both interesting and informative. Sadly, although from what I have read to date, the V85TT would suit me just fine but the reduced income from being retired means it will never be. I really love my little Breva fortunately, as it will realistically be my last bike until I cash my chips in, slide off the perch and generally become deceased.
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Frans, since you actually have one of these, can you tell us what the fuel capacity actually is? (I have read and heard conflicting reports.) Please enlighten us.
John Henry
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Frans, your wife was also on the Stelvio, my wife thinks thats the best there is, the V85 has little foam thickness and width there, so I suspected little comfort for my wife what is crucial to get het on board. Did you do long distance days two up?
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Went to the local shop to order a tire and Don was prepping his first TT. The saddlebags weren't yet delivered, so the new owner is delaying his pick up. Don was installing a center stand and hand protectors. He's has some interest with other potential buyers who want to seethe bike first.
Have to say, it's probably the best looking adventure bike, but perhaps not the best looking Guzzi.
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Went to the local shop to order a tire and Don was prepping his first TT. The saddlebags weren't yet delivered, so the new owner is delaying his pick up. Don was installing a center stand and hand protectors. He's has some interest with other potential buyers who want to seethe bike first.
Have to say, it's probably the best looking adventure bike, but perhaps not the best looking Guzzi.
Most small dealers in our country sold at least ten until now. He should at least have one as demonstrator.
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Have to say, it's probably the best looking adventure bike, but perhaps not the best looking Guzzi.
Putting aside the V85, is there a good looking Adventure Bike? Maybe the Africa Twin? IMHO, it seems aesthetics was not a requirement, like the GS, Tiger and Multistrada.
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My favorite
(https://i.ibb.co/sgr102f/orval.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sgr102f)
I generally love the Belgian trappist beers, but had problems getting the best out of the Orval. Seems it should be served even warmer than the others. Serving at 12-13C seems to do the trick.
Or what do you say, Frans? :boozing: