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Title: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: vintage53 on July 02, 2019, 10:00:02 PM
Find a copy of his Book, you will not be disappointed.   

Started his career as an Engineer at Ford, and made it to the top.

The Mustang, and Minivan.  Saved Chrysler!
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: ohiorider on July 03, 2019, 06:25:08 AM
Find a copy of his Book, you will not be disappointed.   

Started his career as an Engineer at Ford, and made it to the top.

The Mustang, and Minivan.  Saved Chrysler!
Thanks for posting this notice.  For some reason I missed it on the news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Iacocca

Bob
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: Darren Williams on July 03, 2019, 06:35:58 AM
Agree his book was a good read.  I have a lot of respect for his sensibilities in design and management. And I forgave him for the minivan thing, after a while.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: JJ on July 03, 2019, 06:57:16 AM
Find a copy of his Book, you will not be disappointed.   

Started his career as an Engineer at Ford, and made it to the top.

The Mustang, and Minivan.  Saved Chrysler!

Agree...his book is a great read...R.I.P. Lee...Father of the Mustang....and Godspeed...he made it to 94...A true icon of the car industry...


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Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: Two Checks on July 03, 2019, 08:18:16 AM
Ford rejected the minivan and what became the K car. (Yes, the Chrysler minivan was derived from the K)
Ford rejected both concepts.



Bad move, Henry.


Lead, follow or get out of the way.
If you can find a better car, buy it.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: blackcat on July 03, 2019, 09:06:14 AM



Bad move, Henry.




“If a guy is over 25 percent a jerk, he’s in trouble,” Mr. Iacocca later said. “And Henry was 95 percent.”

Ford "...fired Mr. Iacocca in July 1978, saying he just did not like him. He never gave more detailed reasons. The company posted a $1.8 billion profit that year. Some industry observers said Mr. Ford could not tolerate a nonfamily rival, especially one of Mr. Iacocca’s brass. In his memoir, Mr. Iacocca detailed a long struggle between them, and called Mr. Ford a man of limited vision with ethnic and racial biases."

Lido was a visionary, Ford was an entitled jerk.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: fatbob on July 03, 2019, 08:56:36 PM
I remember when many were trying to persuade him to run for President.   Don’t remember the year though. 
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: canuck750 on July 03, 2019, 09:09:20 PM
A great man, he had the leadership and vision when both Ford and then Chrysler most needed it.

My first car was a 65 Mustang 2+2, Lee Iaccoca is credited with the leadership of developing and launching the car. Really no more than a Ford Falcon with sexier sheet metal, it was Iacocca's understanding that a good looking everyman's car would be a success, he repeated it with the many iterations of the K car, remember how special the K Car convertible was when it was released?

I still remember seeing the first K Car based min van's displayed in a shopping mall and the crowds gathered around.

Iacocca repaid the US Government bail out of Chrysler 7 years ahead of schedule and he did while not taking a salary until Chrysler was back in the black.

Think about that,

what CEO would do that today?
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: Gliderjohn on July 03, 2019, 09:18:19 PM
But the K cars were sooo ugly and a POS. But it did save Chrysler.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 03, 2019, 09:26:06 PM
Brilliant man.

He was among the first CEOs to obtain notoriety by gouging $ scores of billions after his company was bailed out by the US taxpayers. Gordon Geeko should be proud.

And who can forget the exploding Pinto and all those great Fords, Mercs and Lincoln Marks from the 1970s?  And certainly all you fans want to find a pristine (not rusted to dust) K-Car for your collection- perhaps with Corinthian leather?

Let me find some snakeoil to mix in my drink to continue this love fest.   :evil:
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: Roebling3 on July 03, 2019, 09:53:55 PM
Iacoca did a fine job leading the funding and restoration of the Statue of Liberty. Also his 1st wife was a type 1 diabetic and died from the complications; he raised awareness and funding for greater research into finding better treatments and care.
He didn't take a salary until Chrysler was in the black; according to Wikipedia.  R3~
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: oldbike54 on July 03, 2019, 10:08:57 PM
 Nope .

 Dusty
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: oldbike54 on July 03, 2019, 10:22:39 PM
 Can we discuss this sans hostility ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: rocker59 on July 04, 2019, 12:01:57 AM
 
And who can forget the exploding Pinto and all those great Fords, Mercs and Lincoln Marks from the 1970s?   

1972 Mark IV is pure art.  Fantastic 460 V8-powered personal luxury coupe at its best:


(https://i.ibb.co/3YQBkdY/1972.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3YQBkdY)

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Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: Rough Edge racing on July 04, 2019, 08:13:14 AM
   The so called exploding Pintos were not really more of a risk an a Toyota of that era...The big deal was the memo from Ford saying it would be cheaper to pay off lawsuits rather than redesign the gas tank...That sealed their fate...
 By the 70's US cars were  poor build quality, struggling to deal with emission controls and the increase in imported cars...it was a tough time and I believe Iaccoca did a good job with what he had to work with..
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 04, 2019, 08:56:06 AM
1972 Mark IV is pure art.  Fantastic 460 V8-powered personal luxury coupe at its best:


(https://i.ibb.co/3YQBkdY/1972.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3YQBkdY)

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absolutely gorgeous, as well as it's corporate cousin, perfect car for the fuel crisis and 55mph speed limit. 

(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/FORDThunderbird-2485_5.jpg) 
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: rocker59 on July 04, 2019, 09:41:25 AM
absolutely gorgeous, as well as it's corporate cousin, perfect car for the fuel crisis and 55mph speed limit. 

(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/gallery/FORDThunderbird-2485_5.jpg)

'72 was the ultimate year.  Those 5mph bumpers really hurt the styling, '73 onward, thanks to Uncle Sugar.

(https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/03/TB-1024x536.png)
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: kirkemon on July 04, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
The movie comes out in November
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyYgDtY2AMY
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 04, 2019, 10:40:46 AM
'72 was the ultimate year.  Those 5mph bumpers really hurt the styling, '73 onward, thanks to Uncle Sugar.

(https://blog.consumerguide.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/03/TB-1024x536.png)

More that a car.

Lovely Landau Roof with Trim Bar.  And that Crushed Velour says luxury.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: Seventy One on July 04, 2019, 02:03:41 PM
Brilliant man.

He was among the first CEOs to obtain notoriety by gouging $ scores of billions after his company was bailed out by the US taxpayers. Gordon Geeko should be proud.

And who can forget the exploding Pinto and all those great Fords, Mercs and Lincoln Marks from the 1970s?  And certainly all you fans want to find a pristine (not rusted to dust) K-Car for your collection- perhaps with Corinthian leather?

Let me find some snakeoil to mix in my drink to continue this love fest.   :evil:

Just the other day I was thinking about how much fun it would be to run out and buy an '83 Plymouth Turismo but the local dealers were fresh out of 'em. How weird is that?

You'd think low cost economy cars would last forever and ever and ever.

I am shocked (shocked!) that 40 year old economy cars are no longer with us.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 04, 2019, 02:23:51 PM
Just the other day I was thinking about how much fun it would be to run out and buy an '83 Plymouth Turismo but the local dealers were fresh out of 'em. How weird is that?

You'd think low cost economy cars would last forever and ever and ever.

I am shocked (shocked!) that 40 year old economy cars are no longer with us.

For sure, you should only be looking at new Plymouths on showroom floor.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: bad Chad on July 04, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
Some of you kids have smoke in your eyes.  70s Thunderbirds were not what you think you remember.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: JJ on July 04, 2019, 05:34:30 PM
Some of you kids have smoke in your eyes.  70s Thunderbirds were not what you think you remember.

C'mon now!! :laugh: :grin: :wink:  Ford's version of the 4-wheeled ORCA!! :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin:

Large...low...heavy ...and all metal!  Imagine plowing into one of today's subcompacts with one of those at 70 mph?!?
 
("Doooooohhhh!!") :shocked: :shocked: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: sidecarnutz on July 04, 2019, 07:16:28 PM
We owned a convertible K car for three years and it was a lot of fun. Had an issue with the belt tensioner and the cruise control switch stalk. And that was all that wore out while we had it. I got it used with 40k miles.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: rocker59 on July 04, 2019, 07:42:25 PM
Some of you kids have smoke in your eyes.  70s Thunderbirds were not what you think you remember.

So, what WAS a 429-powered 1972 Thunderbird?
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 04, 2019, 07:48:24 PM
So, what WAS a 429-powered 1972 Thunderbird?

actually a 460, still a dog
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: rocker59 on July 04, 2019, 09:41:02 PM
actually a 460, still a dog

For 1972 Thunderbirds:  429 standard.  460 optional.

Taken in context, the cars were not "dogs".  They were popular, beautiful, and worked well for their intended mission. 

Honestly, I don't get the hate.  My dad had a 1976 Mark IV new in 1976.  Not nearly as beautiful as the 1972 models, it was a sweet machine.  Heavy, comfortable, powerful (for its time with 225 Net HP), and a really enjoyable cruiser. 

Horses for courses.  A 1972 Corvette is a better sportscar than a Mark IV.  The Mark IV is a better luxury car than a Corvette...

Like him, or not.  Good guy, or not.  Lido was an influential player.  He had his hands on design and development of some landmark cars.  We should all be so lucky.

Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: ohiorider on July 04, 2019, 10:14:48 PM
I thought Lee I. was extremely talented, and obviously knew how to move a board of directors in his direction. 

Bob
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 04, 2019, 10:20:42 PM
For 1972 Thunderbirds:  429 standard.  460 optional.

Taken in context, the cars were not "dogs".  They were popular, beautiful, and worked well for their intended mission. 

Honestly, I don't get the hate.  My dad had a 1976 Mark IV new in 1976.  Not nearly as beautiful as the 1972 models, it was a sweet machine.  Heavy, comfortable, powerful (for its time with 225 Net HP), and a really enjoyable cruiser. 

Horses for courses.  A 1972 Corvette is a better sportscar than a Mark IV.  The Mark IV is a better luxury car than a Corvette...

Like him, or not.  Good guy, or not.  Lido was an influential player.  He had his hands on design and development of some landmark cars.  We should all be so lucky.

Hate is such a strong word and I never called it an Orca.

My pop had a 74 Grand Marquis and a 72 460 Ranchero.   I stand pat.
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: JJ on July 04, 2019, 10:40:37 PM
Hate is such a strong word and I never called it an Orca.

Just a joke now...take it easy... :laugh: :grin: :wink: 

I owned and drove a few whales in my youth as well:

* '67 Pontiac Bonneville convertible
* '69 Old Delta 98
* '65 Cadillac Coupe de Ville
* '75 Cadillac El Dorado
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 04, 2019, 10:50:24 PM
Just a joke now...take it easy... :laugh: :grin: :wink: 

I owned and drove a few whales in my youth as well:

* '67 Pontiac Bonneville convertible
* '69 Old Delta 98
* '65 Cadillac Coupe de Ville
* '75 Cadillac El Dorado

Wow, I loved the Bonnie for all the wrong reasons.  What a beautiful car.  Funny that the earlier cars are more desirable. 
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: JJ on July 05, 2019, 09:50:35 AM
Wow, I loved the Bonnie for all the wrong reasons.  What a beautiful car.  Funny that the earlier cars are more desirable.

Mine was just like this one...same color and all!! :cool: :thumb:

* Power convertible top with glass rear window
* 389 cu. in. Tri-Power motor
* Automatic with console, with vacuum gauge
* Bucket seats
* Heavy...but it would "Get Up And Go" on a 70 mph kick down!!


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Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: LowRyter on July 05, 2019, 12:58:59 PM
Beautiful car
Title: Re: RIP , Lee Iaccoca
Post by: Idontwantapickle on July 05, 2019, 09:55:05 PM
Ford rejected the minivan and what became the K car. (Yes, the Chrysler minivan was derived from the K)
Ford rejected both concepts.



Bad move, Henry.


Lead, follow or get out of the way.
If you can find a better car, buy it.

Bad move, eh? Chrysler has been bankrupt more times than I can remember and now gets sold off every few years. Ford? Not so much. And the thing with daring people to find a better car? Best thing that ever happened to Toyota and Honda. Cause they did. He certainly saved Chrysler but it wasn't because the product was any good! It was mostly snake oil.  :laugh:

Hunter