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Title: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Dimples on July 18, 2019, 06:56:21 PM

I'm curiously watching this eBay auction to see if the 1100 Sport is still so undervalued. I prefer the carbureted version myself, but this looks as good as you could hope to find for sale (one owner--not me).

I've owned all the Le Mans bikes through to the Nero Corsa, and these Sports are the shit! Especially considering they could (or can) usually be had for small change! I know there are a handful of riders on this forum who would agree with that experience.

Let's see what all the money is these days:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1997-Moto-Guzzi-1100i-Sport/293151531774?hash=item44413162fe%3Ag%3AL64AAOSwiQ9dKmRc&LH_ItemCondition=3000
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Cam3512 on July 18, 2019, 07:09:41 PM
Dang that’s clean.  And in NJ...
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Dave Swanson on July 18, 2019, 07:17:33 PM
I have been salivating over that bike also.  What a peach!!  Amazing condition.  Must be one of the best anywhere.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MHFT4cjx/guzzi1100sport.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

If I didn't have my V11S I would be going for it.  Dang it is beautiful even in yellow!

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kv5cHjBL/IMG-3381.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzzdtkmM)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: LowRyter on July 18, 2019, 07:57:04 PM
I am sure the two I own are the most undervalued.   :cheesy:
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Huzo on July 18, 2019, 07:58:47 PM
I am sure the two I own are the most undervalued.   :cheesy:
Yes.
But not by you I’ll wager.. :thumb:
My Norge is “worth” about AUD 6,000
But you couldn’t buy it for 30,000
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Huzo on July 18, 2019, 08:03:08 PM


(https://i.postimg.cc/Kv5cHjBL/IMG-3381.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzzdtkmM)
A fraction more fairing and I would rate that thing as perfect...(for my purposes)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: LowRyter on July 18, 2019, 08:20:49 PM
Yes.
But not by you I’ll wager.. :thumb:
My Norge is “worth” about AUD 6,000
But you couldn’t buy it for 30,000

This one is worth a fortune

(https://g4.img-dpreview.com/732BF77978EF4C7F9F1A60AEECA8DC91.jpg)

This one is worth two

(https://g4.img-dpreview.com/13D5E09C700C4FA6B10155D617354EBB.jpg)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: sdcr on July 18, 2019, 08:29:52 PM
I've seen this one in the flesh, about as " new " as a used bike can be.

The only flaw that I see, is it hasn't been ridden enough. The Sports are one of my favorite Guzzi's.

I have been salivating over that bike also.  What a peach!!  Amazing condition.  Must be one of the best anywhere.

(https://i.postimg.cc/MHFT4cjx/guzzi1100sport.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

If I didn't have my V11S I would be going for it.  Dang it is beautiful even in yellow!

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kv5cHjBL/IMG-3381.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzzdtkmM)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: tazio on July 18, 2019, 08:44:05 PM
I hear those Sporti/Spots make good entry level Iron Butt bikes..
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: rschrum on July 18, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
The Centauro seems undervalued. Wonderful bikes, once sorted. Although there are haters lurking.
(https://i.ibb.co/thf1VMt/20181031-165813.jpg) (https://ibb.co/thf1VMt)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: MedicAndy on July 18, 2019, 10:46:40 PM
I'm curiously watching this eBay auction to see if the 1100 Sport is still so undervalued. I prefer the carbureted version myself, but this looks as good as you could hope to find for sale (one owner--not me). 

This bike is (or was) for sale on MGNOC for $7.9k and an ADV for $7.5k.  I would like to see this bike sell for at least $7.5k, especially since the milage is low, he has the full Staintune exhaust, the original exhaust, and the Creedon chip.

I think that the new owner, if it sells, will need to install a set of new tires, since the seller didn't state that the current tires were new, so I assume that they could be very low milage older tires, which is no big thing. I also have two yellow 1100's, and the wheels needed to be powder coated on both bikes, since the original silver paint turned over time into a creamy concrete color........ which doesn't look good. This eBay bike's wheels also seem to have lost their silver shine. (But, I could be wrong). Either way, it's no big deal either. Let's say that the new owner, at the most, is possibly looking at spending $1k total to get this bike flawless.

I also think that the times for finding nice lower milage 1100 Sports are coming to an end. The lowest milage Sport I own is a black 1997 with 1388 miles on the clock. The miles on this bike won't increase since I don't ride it.

So lets hope that this bike will sell for big $$$, and more importantly, it's going to a buyer who will appreciate and take care of this bike.

My yellow 1997. I finally got her license plates and insurance today, so today was the first day since I bought her two years ago that I took her for a ride.

(https://i.ibb.co/5TWQft8/fullsizeoutput-218be.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5TWQft8)


This is my 1997 with 1388 original miles

(https://i.ibb.co/X4dsWs0/146-IMG-1399.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X4dsWs0)


A couple of the 1100 Sport herd:

(https://i.ibb.co/Nts0yQ2/fullsizeoutput-21bd1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Nts0yQ2)


One of each available factory color:

(https://i.ibb.co/4Sk36Dt/fullsizeoutput-21bb9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Sk36Dt)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: RinkRat II on July 18, 2019, 11:00:56 PM


    Thanks for chiming in on this Andy, I was wondering if you were one of the bidders or not. If the price stays reasonable someone will get a great bike!

        Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Turin on July 19, 2019, 12:10:25 AM
I'd say the most undervalued Guzzi would be this sexy beast





(https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/sites/motorcyclistonline.com/files/import/header_images/122-1206-01-o%2B1999-2000-moto-guzzi-quota-1100-ES%2B_0.jpg)

Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Litre1000 on July 19, 2019, 07:19:25 AM
The Centauro seems undervalued. Wonderful bikes, once sorted. Although there are haters lurking.
(https://i.ibb.co/thf1VMt/20181031-165813.jpg) (https://ibb.co/thf1VMt)

I really dig the Centauro! Bold styling with a racy chassis. There’s one for sale on cycletrader that appears to have a Daytona engine in it. Can you even get parts for that any longer?!
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: JJ on July 19, 2019, 07:42:38 AM
I really dig the Centauro! Bold styling with a racy chassis. There’s one for sale on cycletrader that appears to have a Daytona engine in it. Can you even get parts for that any longer?!

Would agree...the poor, unloved Centauro was either a LOVE IT or HATE IT from day one...  They never sold well in the marketplace either...

Nice, sorted, "needs nothing" examples today fetch between $5500-$6500  :cool: :thumb: :smiley: :wink:

I've owned 5 Guzzi's in my time, and this is by far, my favorite! :cool: :boozing: :thumb: :smiley: :wink:


(https://i.ibb.co/p0hNvmS/IMG-E8996.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p0hNvmS)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Cam3512 on July 19, 2019, 07:46:10 AM
I really dig the Centauro! Bold styling with a racy chassis. There’s one for sale on cycletrader that appears to have a Daytona engine in it. Can you even get parts for that any longer?!

I thought the engines WERE the same.  If not, what's the difference?
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: rocker59 on July 19, 2019, 07:57:33 AM
I really dig the Centauro! Bold styling with a racy chassis. There’s one for sale on cycletrader that appears to have a Daytona engine in it. Can you even get parts for that any longer?!

Daytona RS and Centauro are the same, under the skin.
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Tusayan on July 19, 2019, 08:49:32 AM
Daytona RS and Centauro are the same, under the skin.

Very similar but not identical.  RSs sold in many markets have different internal engine tune, mainly different cams.  US/Swiss etc RS engines have the same cams but still a different engine number series for reasons unknown to me.  All RSs have a 9000 rpm red limit set point versus 8000 rpm on the Centauro.
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: bad Chad on July 19, 2019, 11:36:11 AM
Stop micro managing this fellas.  Every street going Guzzi since at least the intro of the T series is undervalued!  Anybody who has ever tried to sell one can vouch for that.
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: JohninVT on July 19, 2019, 11:45:57 AM
An 1100 Sport was the first Guzzi I ever rode and I would swap my 1400 Touring for a pristine 1100 Sport in a heartbeat.  However, I’d have a hard time laying out $7,500 cash for one.  You can almost buy two very nice 900SS’ for that much.  You can find an immaculate 900SS for under 6k and lots of decent examples for under 4K.  Unless you’re a Guzzi collector the pricing on Sport’s makes no sense. 
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 19, 2019, 12:33:34 PM
Undervalue means to underestimate the value of something.  My take on that meaning would be when you value something at x dollars, and it sells for x + y dollars. 

What I am reading here is that you all are overvaluing these Moto Guzzis because the market says they are actually worth less.   
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: twowheeladdict on July 19, 2019, 12:37:06 PM
This bike is (or was) for sale on MGNOC for $7.9k and an ADV for $7.5k.  I would like to see this bike sell for at least $7.5k, especially since the milage is low, he has the full Staintune exhaust, the original exhaust, and the Creedon chip.

I think that the new owner, if it sells, will need to install a set of new tires, since the seller didn't state that the current tires were new, so I assume that they could be very low milage older tires, which is no big thing. I also have two yellow 1100's, and the wheels needed to be powder coated on both bikes, since the original silver paint turned over time into a creamy concrete color........ which doesn't look good. This eBay bike's wheels also seem to have lost their silver shine. (But, I could be wrong). Either way, it's no big deal either. Let's say that the new owner, at the most, is possibly looking at spending $1k total to get this bike flawless.


The latest review of those tires I could find was from 2003. 
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Devildog on July 19, 2019, 06:17:19 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/YbB744y/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YbB744y)

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An 1100 Sport was the first Guzzi I ever rode and I would swap my 1400 Touring for a pristine 1100 Sport in a heartbeat.  However, I’d have a hard time laying out $7,500 cash for one.  You can almost buy two very nice 900SS’ for that much.  You can find an immaculate 900SS for under 6k and lots of decent examples for under 4K.  Unless you’re a Guzzi collector the pricing on Sport’s makes no sense.
I have both bikes, great low mileage condition bikes that I would value much the same money, but if I were selling both the Ducati would probably attract a bigger buying audience, and is the more practical choice being lighter weight and much easier to ride. Quoting Mr Roper: 'the Sport 1100 was a dinosaur when it was new", so it's popular to a small niche market.
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Idontwantapickle on July 19, 2019, 06:39:20 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/YbB744y/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YbB744y)

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I have both bikes, great low mileage condition bikes that I would value much the same money, but if I were selling both the Ducati would probably attract a bigger buying audience, and is the more practical choice being lighter weight and much easier to ride. Quoting Mr Roper: 'the Sport 1100 was a dinosaur when it was new", so it's popular to a small niche market.

Welcome to Jurassic Park!!  :grin:


(https://i.ibb.co/sq7yJt9/fullsizeoutput-21bd1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sq7yJt9)
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Bulldog9 on July 19, 2019, 06:53:06 PM
It saddens me to see how cheap Griso's are  going for. No idea how the Griso Rates as opposed to others, but in a world where leftover V7's and even new from the crate MGX's go for 60% of original MSRP, other than the latest HOT commodity the V85TT, what Guzzi isn't undervalued???
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: tazio on July 19, 2019, 07:26:57 PM
Welcome to Jurassic Park!!  :grin:


(https://i.ibb.co/sq7yJt9/fullsizeoutput-21bd1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sq7yJt9)

:laugh:
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: MedicAndy on July 20, 2019, 07:09:28 PM
This Dinosaur didn't do too bad after all!


(https://i.ibb.co/SBtGcmD/1997-Yellow-1100-Sport.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SBtGcmD)

Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Lumpy Idle on July 20, 2019, 07:31:06 PM
This Dinosaur didn't do too bad after all!


yeah, classic ebay bidding technique. if you really want the item then you program in a bid to come in at the last second and a half of the bidding period and you make your bid significantly higher than the previous high.  $7500 for a sporti that clean is going to become the new normal. of course there is really no "normal" in such a scarce market.

ry
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: sdcr on July 20, 2019, 07:32:31 PM
About time. These are excellent Guzzi's, and have long been undervalued.

This Dinosaur didn't do too bad after all!


(https://i.ibb.co/SBtGcmD/1997-Yellow-1100-Sport.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SBtGcmD)

Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: canuck750 on July 20, 2019, 07:54:14 PM
I'd say the most undervalued Guzzi would be this sexy beast

(https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/sites/motorcyclistonline.com/files/import/header_images/122-1206-01-o%2B1999-2000-moto-guzzi-quota-1100-ES%2B_0.jpg)

Amen to that!

I have been offered a red one just like this for $3K, I just can't day no.... stay tuned

And I think the Sport is gorgeous
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Turin on July 20, 2019, 08:47:05 PM
Had a black one. I put 60,000 miles on it and sold it when I found a red one with 18,000 miles. It's still my favorite all around bike.
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: Travman on July 20, 2019, 09:30:49 PM
I’d say the 850T/T3 are the most undervalued. No resale value at all. You would be lucky to get $1,500 for one in great running condition and no issues.
Title: Re: The Most Undervalued Guzzi
Post by: willowstreetguzziguy on July 21, 2019, 04:54:02 PM
Why pick one model...The ENTIRE BRAND is undervalued in my opinion!!!