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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gliderjohn on July 26, 2019, 10:26:46 PM
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I started riding regularly on the street in 1979. I started flying in 1985. No brag here just personal observation, but I have found that I react to the "unexpected" in a calculating working through it way without any panic feelings to speak of. Not to say that I may not have a WTF self moment and retrospect knee knocking afterward.
My pilot training drilled into me to always keep trying to work through whatever the problem is and not to give up. So...how much is innate and how much is training? How much is luck or guardian angels? Is the above similar for those of us that have survived many years and miles on motorcycles and other adventures in life? Just having curious thoughts this evening. :popcorn:
GliderJohn
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Never give up! When things go bad they can go to,real bad in a hurry. Keep your head in the game is what I try to practice
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I see what you mean GJ.
I sometimes am accused of being overly pedantic when pointing out ambiguity in explanations. I have worked on being able to explain concepts within my own level of expertise, (such that it is), so the person I’m dealing with can have the best chance of grasping the thrust of what I’m telling him.
Here’s an example from a different sphere.
On a freeway near my home is a sign points to the left that says “Narre Warren Only”
I said to Old Mate “that’s ambiguous”
He said “How so”
My reply
“Does it mean this road only goes to Narre Warren”
Or
“If you want to go to Narre Warren, only this road will get you there”
A seemingly trifling point to argue, but indicitave of the desire to detect ambiguity.
I’m sure that pilot training fosters this desire for succinctness and Gliding Instructors need to try to adopt the principle.
You’re right..
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I read something years ago about Freddie Spencer. He said he was constantly thinking through what ifs, practicing, and learning. He said each practiced routine was like a packet hanging on a wall in his brain, and when he faced something on a track or on a ride, his brain would just select the right packet and execute the prescribed actions. Prepare well, practice, and hang a lot of packets and you can get yourself out of a lot of oh, shit moments.
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I read a book about how to be clutch in sports business or whatever. Essentially it explains that in panic situations when you have no time to think your brain goes with what it knows whether it is right or wrong. Practice for muscle and brain memory
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I've been in three absolute life or death situations. And I mean CLOSE calls. When the chips are down, and I realize that in the next ten to thirty seconds I'm going to either be dead or alive, and the odds are maybe 50/50, I hunker down, stay calm, and do the best I can to preserve my own life. Nothing is to be gained by panicking.
That said, I'm a lot happier not rehashing these instances at a later time (shudder).
Just one of the three situations was on a motorcycle.
Certainly no James Bond, though. I wear a full coverage helmet, riding jacket and pants with armor, and when I approach any intersection where there's a possibility of some moron pulling in front of me (several per ride), I'm on serious edge.
So, I suppose I'm as big a chicken as you'll find, but in an extreme situation, I somehow cope.
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I started riding regularly on the street in 1979. I started flying in 1985. No brag here just personal observation, but I have found that I react to the "unexpected" in a calculating working through it way without any panic feelings to speak of. Not to say that I may not have a WTF self moment and retrospect knee knocking afterward.
My pilot training drilled into me to always keep trying to work through whatever the problem is and not to give up. So...how much is innate and how much is training? How much is luck or guardian angels? Is the above similar for those of us that have survived many years and miles on motorcycles and other adventures in life? Just having curious thoughts this evening. :popcorn:
GliderJohn
I am pretty damned sure my pilot training (started in 1991, Multi-Comm-IFR) has saved my ass a few times. I was taught to be 30 seconds ahead of where I currently was. Always have a back up plan, and a back up to the back up. Always think about 'what-if', and what I might do if the what if happens. Always check the weather. And if its going to be a long x/c, check the weather for several days before to get an idea of what's been happening and what I might expect enroute. Head on a swivel. Situational awareness. Prefight. <-- That has caught several things that could have been bad news 20 miles down the road.
When I was flying, after prefight and before engine start, I would sit in the cockpit, couple of deeps breaths, think about what my mission was, make sure my charts were in place, approach plates in place, alternate airport plates in place. etc etc. I still do that. But its tailored to fit the bike. It annoys the spouse to no end, some times, but that minute or so helps me get into motorcycle mode.
The 'head on a swivel' and 30 seconds ahead has kept me from hitting several deer, 2 elks and momma bear and her 2 cubs and has kept me out of the path of lots of debris and errant vehicles.
Or maybe its all just luck??? Because sometimes, you get that weird goose bumpy, hair raising on the back of your neck feeling and you slow down, and Oh, a cop! a dead deer in the middle of the lane on a blind curve! traffic stopped all of a sudden!....etc.
lol
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My pilot training drilled into me to always keep trying to work through whatever the problem is and not to give up.
A pilot I know says their flight instructor told them " Fly the plane until there is dirt in your mouth ".
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As a former SCUBA instructor trainer, enriched gas instructor (NITROX), and cold deep zero vis instructor, we were drilled day after day on panic and how to control it. Some of the best lessons of my life to date.
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+1 on pilot training being a big help with dealing with emergencies. I also feel my pilot training has helped me handle emergencies w/o panicing over the years.
IMHO, one of the best examples of good pilot training and remaining calm in an emergency, is SW1380 pilot Tammie Jo Shultz's handling of the engine explosion that caused a sudden decompression, killing one passenger. She is a former Navy pilot, which I'm sure helped a LOT. Listen to the audio of the ATC exchanges with her. She is calm and steady as a rock. RESPECT!
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovZCaqZlLmU[/ur]
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I just poop myself and scream a lot. I'm still alive! :evil:
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And yet how many of us roll out down the driveway with no idea exactly
what our tire pressures are setting at...
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On a street bike you may have less than a few seconds in an emergency..The car that suddenly makes the turn directly in front you you...Brake or go left or go right...A situation that injures or kills many bikers because it's unique to bike riding and difficult to practice for it.
My last panic riding sisuation was a few years ago and happened on a Guzzi. I had just a few hours riding experience on the bike....Riding the "cafe" Cali 2 pacing a friend on a narrow road.. He went into a sharp blind right hand turn, about 50 MPH...I was running faster than him into the turn and my bike ran wide..Either because the Guzzi required more rider input than I expected or I was stupid, I did not increase the lean angle and instead applied the front brake.. The bike stood up so to speak and ran even, wider almost off the outside of the curve....I never crashed and the memory of that is a good lesson...
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the "what-ifs" I guess really have both helped and hurt my life.. the heightened anxiety can be a pain is social situations, but does help dealing in a panic because you have already written out that mental flowchart in your brain. Im ALWAYS 5 steps ahead... That's really the best because you head off most issues before they happen. The ones that just happen... a millisecond of anger/panic flips the switch, and I normally do pretty well.
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Weather one is talking about riding a motorcycle, driving a car or any other activity there is one thing for sure that I can attest to from working the mean streets for 30 years. When there is NO TIME TO THINK a human has only two options, 1- training will kick in and take the proper action or 2- panic will take over and that can end badly.
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IMHO, one of the best examples of good pilot training and remaining calm in an emergency, is SW1380 pilot Tammie Jo Shultz's handling ...... She is a former Nazy pilot, which I'm sure helped a LOT.
Not only calm and cool, but in her 90s at least! Most of them didn't survive the war .... ! :grin:
Be that as it may, a good example of how a pilot should act in that situation, for sure .... :thumb:
Lannis
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And yet how many of us roll out down the driveway with no idea exactly
what our tire pressures are setting at...
That used to be me. Not any more. One of my bikes tells me what the tire pressure is, and the others are all parked within reaching distance of the pressure gauge and air hose .....
Lannis
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I been through a firefighter academy of a major city. It's an interesting place. During your training they teach you to deal with your panic or walk due to not be able to handle it.
Several things that occur are dealing with tight spaces, heights(100 for ladder climb) not being able to breathe, getting stuck and having to work out of it.
When you dealing with medical emergencies you must remain calm. This is really hard to do with kids, you are no good if you panic. There is a lot more that goes with this training than mentioned but the overall thing you learn is be calm, don't give up, think through the problem stay oriented and if possible prevent the mishap.
This goes hand in hand for me and riding a motorcyle.
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I think you'll find that most of us here behave similarly in panic situations. Most of us are older and there's no way we could have survived this long doing the dangerous things we have by freaking out. It's true, training and practice helps, but an important aspect is the individual's emotional 'orientation'. Some people are normally fearful, others are basically angry or bored, and those emotional levels aren't particularly conducive to handling emergencies well. They probably wouldn't put themselves into a dangerous situation anyway. The higher the emotional level, the quicker the reaction time and the better they're able to confront the situation at hand. Being able and willing to confront the possible outcomes of a situation can require will power, and predicting consequences isn't a strong point either for those lower emotional levels either - it also requires taking a certain level of responsibility as well. When the chips are down, if you don't keep trying, only luck will carry you through. I wouldn't want to have to depend on that alone!
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I think you'll find that most of us here behave similarly in panic situations. Most of us are older and there's no way we could have survived this long doing the dangerous things we have by freaking out. It's true, training and practice helps, but an important aspect is the individual's emotional 'orientation'.
I've never been through any aviation, military, or first-responder training, but as you say, many of us are getting old enough to have seen a lot of situations and have an idea of how we would do in a crisis. Over the years, I've been the "first in" to two car wrecks, and I was happy, in retrospect, with how I responded.
Get the ones involved out of immediate fatal danger (such as a fire or arterial bleeding), but don't touch or move them otherwise until a trained EMT gets there. If there are other folks around trying to help, direct their activities if you're more capable of doing that than they are; as has been mentioned, like directing traffic or expediting professional help. If a victim is conscious and hurting, stay with them, hold their hand, talk to them, let them know that help is on the way. And when the experts get there, step back and get out of the way.
An optional step in this day and time might be to smack the camera out of the hand of some ghoul who is filming it all instead of helping ...
Lannis
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Think of it like this : you are on the edge of disaster , what happens next is up to you.
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And yet how many of us roll out down the driveway with no idea exactly
what our tire pressures are setting at...
That used to be me. Not any more. One of my bikes tells me what the tire pressure is, and the others are all parked within reaching distance of the pressure gauge and air hose .....
Lannis
👍 Same here.
And just knowing pressure isn't enough. Rode last night w/ a friend that keeps his front and rear at 50psi because his wife is on the back of bike most times
:rolleyes:
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This emergency had nothing to do with us, we had no chance to help and I do not want to start a gruesome recollection of terrible events on this thread but....
My wife, I, and my two children (ages 9 & 14) were out on Moriches Bay, NY in our boat on July, 17, 1996 at dusk. We saw Flight 800 explode in the air and rain down onto the sea, several seconds later, we heard the muffled explosion. We radioed to the Coast Guard Station (we were no more that 1/2 mile from it at the time) and were the first call of record. We had no idea what it was...fireworks? After a brief conversation with the CG and a lot of chatter on the radio, we realized that something very bad had happened...it was a quiet boat ride home. All I can remember is that it felt like a punch in the throat at the time. The FBI showed up at our house two days later to ask questions and gave us the final news...230 souls. It was a very quiet evening at our house by then we were just numb. We rarely talk about it and it still feels surreal.
I've seen two fatal car accidents happen right in front of me and (believe it or not), one person shot to death, no more than 20 feet away. In those incidents, I felt a huge adrenaline rush and attempted to help. That night on the bay, there was nothing but helplessness and sadness. It was not the same when one is so far removed from the event, even though we saw it in real time.
Be well,
DougG
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Most "real" MC riders are mechanically inclined and think in engineering term. By "real" I mean longer term and regular. They also are the ones who do a certain amount of their own maintenance and checking. There are a lot of other activities that are similar, such as flying.
Having observed and studied human tendencies for a while now, I would say the folks described above will generally think more in system and process terms than people who are not active or interested in these types activities. I think that is why so many here bang on millennials, since so many are not mechanical by nature.
If your tendency is to work through problems and you think in terms of analyzing iterations, odds are that you will react that way in unexpected situations. Also, how deep your talent stacks are will give you more options to consider, which can lead to better decisions and see possibilities others would never consider.
Of course, as we get older our reaction speeds slow down. That can cause us to stay on the throttle through a small patch of unseen sand in a corner like a pro. :cool:
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Not only calm and cool, but in her 90s at least! Most of them didn't survive the war .... ! :grin:
Be that as it may, a good example of how a pilot should act in that situation, for sure .... :thumb:
Lannis
Smart a**! Typo. :embarrassed:
NAVY polit.
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My opinion from observing others in situations is 100 percent training and repetition.
Whenever I meet some adult who shows an interest in riding I mention taking the MSF course before even considering buying a motorcycle. I also suggest they dust off the bicycle and get in a few weeks of riding before taking the class.
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That’s a fascinating question John. Great thread idea.
Speaking for myself, and I am not trying to brag or sound tough. Just honestly explaining. I learned early on that I simply don’t react the way most people do in these situations.
Time seems to slow way down for me. I’m conscious I need to make decisions. But the pervading feeling is more like “wow, this is an interesting experience,” as opposed to “OMG I’m going to die.” No feeling of fear, or concern about pain.
Well afterwards I may get shaky and consciously reflect on how bad the deal may have turned out. But at the time it’s almost a feeling of bemusement. I don’t freeze up, but instead think and excute on a plan.
For example, I low sided a Yamaha RD350 in a sharp right curve in Atlanta when I was 16. I slid across the two lanes of traffic in the oncoming lane. Easily could have been run over. Even today, 40 years later, I can distinctly remember the thought/feeling of “Gee, I’ve never seen oncoming cars from this perspective; hope they don’t hit me, well, doesn’t look like they will, I think I must have grounded the right footpeg, need to look at that later.”
I’ve had many such experiences. For a long time I felt kinda guilty about it, was concerned that I was an abnormal freak, or had a “death wish.” I have not had any military, EMS, or flight training. I’ve decided that some people are just wired that way.
My youngest daughter, however, is the exact opposite. At even the faintest beginnings of a potentially perilous situation, she completely freaks out, freezes up, and can’t even speak coherently for several minutes.
And one thing I can’t stand is heights. Gives me the willies. Can’t even watch stuff on movies of people dealing with heights.
Go figure.
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NAVY polit.
Navy politicians are no better than any other politicians ... This gal must have you all shook up!! :laugh:
Lannis
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all shook up!! :laugh:
Lannis
Ah ha ha,
Ah hey hey.
Yeah...Yeah... Yeah...
(Elvis has left the building...)
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I was learning self hypnosis from a therapist. She had undergone 2 surgeries without any anesthesia and she had the video to prove it. One surgery was a brief 20 minute hernia and the other was a 90 minute gynecological surgery that was surely quite delicate and painful.
She teaches how too go into a trance. She holds herself there, aware of her surroundings yet in a trance. I asked her what would she do if there was an acute emergency type of problem, like a bleeding issue or even heart problems. Her response was the same; she would remain in the trance. She said if she got upset and came out of the trance it would only make everything worse.
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Man , some of you guys live dangerously :shocked:
Dusty
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I was learning self hypnosis from a therapist. She had undergone 2 surgeries without any anesthesia and she had the video to prove it. One surgery was a brief 20 minute hernia and the other was a 90 minute gynecological surgery that was surely quite delicate and painful.
She teaches how too go into a trance. She holds herself there, aware of her surroundings yet in a trance. I asked her what would she do if there was an acute emergency type of problem, like a bleeding issue or even heart problems. Her response was the same; she would remain in the trance. She said if she got upset and came out of the trance it would only make everything worse.
That's interesting. I've been operating on people for about 15 years and have never had anyone opt for no externally-derived anesthesia. I'm pretty certain that my hospital wouldn't allow a patient to self-anesthetize via trance (or any other method for that matter) for a proper surgery. Maybe after filling out a pile of paperwork and having a slightly annoyed "oh you bet I'll be saying I told you so" anesthesiologist on stand-by? Again, it's never come up. I had one guy who refused sedation for his colonoscopy. Went surprisingly well. He didn't have any metaphysical zen-like aspirations, no, he just wanted to be ok to drive later that day for a date. Seriously.
Nate
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Dunno , I recently had my sense of humor removed , no anesthesia was used .
Dusty
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I always figured I had a few seconds to react to a situation and shift into plan B. When a ladder came out from under me. There was no seconds for grabbing a gutter to hang from ect. In a millisecond I was on my ass.
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"I had one guy who refused sedation for his colonoscopy. Went surprisingly well. He didn't have any metaphysical zen-like aspirations, no, he just wanted to be ok to drive later that day for a date. Seriously."
And everyone in attendance thought, " What an asshole!"
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Time seems to slow way down for me. I’m conscious I need to make decisions.
I wondered if I was the only one.. :grin:
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And everyone in attendance thought, " What an asshole!"
LOL
This discussion has taken a turn into different territory - but I'll comment.
I've got a friend who gets his teeth worked on without Novocaine. I tell the Dentist to go light on it, but there are times I have to have more.
I recently spoke with a person who works in health care and is caring for her mother with Alzheimers. She said it's common and frequently happens that after anesthetics, older people come down with Alzheimers. Her mother broke a hip and afterwards lost her short term memory. That's the first time I'd ever heard the connection made between those two things.
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back to subject........emer gencies are a common risk to those who drive 2 wheels as we are greatly outnumbered by 4 wheel cages driven by many who have poor skills. when riding, practice [situational awareness[[/b]. easily learned...that where do I point if this or that happens ahead of me. Soon it will become a habit and that is a great start to managing the risks of riding. The only experiences I have had have shown I do well assisting others in emergencies and am less tractable when I am hurt. War, Prison-work, and First Responder experience have given me a little trauma history. Interesting topic.
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My number one area of danger I try to avoid doing alone is high voltage electrical work, 120 volt a.c. and higher. Don't get that "next" 30 seconds to work thru the instantaneous disaster.
I did the flight training continue flying while working thru the situation in flight school. It is good training and has stuck with me.
Overcoming the adrenaline rush is tough though. Fortunately it is very short and if you are aware of this fact and know to react with some foresight from training, it can be a life saver and or prevent further injuries or damage.
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Sometimes you get squashed so quickly all you can hope for is time to heal
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That’s a fascinating question John. Great thread idea.
Speaking for myself, and I am not trying to brag or sound tough. Just honestly explaining. I learned early on that I simply don’t react the way most people do in these situations.
Time seems to slow way down for me. I’m conscious I need to make decisions. But the pervading feeling is more like “wow, this is an interesting experience,” as opposed to “OMG I’m going to die.” No feeling of fear, or concern about pain.
Well afterwards I may get shaky and consciously reflect on how bad the deal may have turned out. But at the time it’s almost a feeling of bemusement. I don’t freeze up, but instead think and excute on a plan.
I heard on a radio show (BBC 4) about this as it has also happened to me on several occasions especially when in a real dangerous situation on the bike. It doesn't happen to me in every dangerous circumstance unfortunately.
A Neuroscientist was saying that when facing extreme danger the brain shuts down a lot of external processes and inputs to concentrate all resource only on the immediate life threatening problem.
He also stated that this accelerated/heightened processing is often felt by the subject as a slowing down of time, or of everything going into slow motion
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Dunno , I recently had my sense of humor removed , no anesthesia was used .
Dusty
Perhaps you are naturally numb? :laugh: ..
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I heard on a radio show (BBC 4) about this as it has also happened to me on several occasions especially when in a real dangerous situation on the bike. It doesn't happen to me in every dangerous circumstance unfortunately.
A Neuroscientist was saying that when facing extreme danger the brain shuts down a lot of external processes and inputs to concentrate all resource only on the immediate life threatening problem.
He also stated that this accelerated/heightened processing is often felt by the subject as a slowing down of time, or of everything going into slow motion
Yep, that describes it all right. I have always wondered why it happens to me. It has happened more than once.
Let me describe the infamous crash and burn of the old V700.
We're going into a corner.. not fast, it's a V700 for heaven's sake :grin: when suddenly it high sides just like it hit a patch of ice. As we were going off on the low side, I thought, WTF? and saw the crash bar touch. Sparks started flying, and "Whoomp" a big fireball lit up. I thought, "Well, that's strange..there has to be fuel available for that to happen. Maybe the fuel crossover came apart and dumped fuel on the rear tire? Hmmm. Better prepare to crash. Double up my fists and cross my arms over my chest. Keep my legs together.. don't want to run into a post .. (!!)"
All this happened as I was leaving the bike. Probably in real time less than a half second.
All this happened in the time it took to leave the bike and hit the pavement.
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All this happened in the time it took to leave the bike and hit the pavement.
Truth of it is, this IS the shadow world, just as the native Americans and others believed. It's as real as we make it. Time is relative and just a measure of how much is happening per unit of it. Without any motion there is no time. I've heard that during WW2, there were people who spotted planes to determine who and what they were. it was discovered that everyone comprehended at different rates, and the really fast ones were used as spotters.
I've experienced that same phenomenon - time slowing down in an emergency. I think it's an ability we all have, but have agreed not to use it. Gotta have a game, you know? We've all heard about the mother who lifts a car off her infant child. Where'd she get the strength for that? Same thing.
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In my set of marking laps around the local star (42 down, heading for 43 this fall) I've had a couple occasions where, yes, time slowed way way down...
The most memorable was September 14, 2015... the day of my first, and to date, only:
Motorcycle wreck
Motor vehicle accident involving another motor vehicle (I've hit deer, those don't count)
Ambulance ride (1/2 mile from the wreck site to the field where they set the chopper down)
Helicopter ride (Terrible service, no in flight movie, no Coke, no peanuts, wouldn't even let me sit up to look out the windows)
So, yeah, you get the idea.... it was a bad day. Point being, I was cruising along on a two-lane blacktop road, minding my own business, heading to work on a sunny Monday morning. The road was straight, clean, no visibility issues at all... The red pickup made a left turn in front of me, and he never signaled. I saw him start to turn... and time got slow. For the rest of the world, it was all done in 1-2 seconds. For me... it felt like about half a minute.
I braked... locked up the rear, released it and got back on it. (Later confirmed by the state trooper whom I had go check for the evidence of where I said I was when the truck pulled in front of me) Got about half way to the wreck and realized I didn't have enough time or distance to stop... I did the last thing I could... I tried to veer left to get around behind him. That's when the guy driving the truck saw me and stood on his brakes. I saw my front tire hit his rear wheel. Then the rest of the bike and all of me piled into the side of the truck between the wheel well and the tailgate.
The impact knocked me out for a few seconds, and I woke up, laying on my back. Woke up, realized I'd been in a wreck, so I consciously did not move... did the quick self assessment, ie, wiggled fingers and toes, felt they were all still attached, and about that time the guy who had been out mowing his lawn came up to me and asked "Sir, are you okay?" I replied, rather calmly, "No, I believe I've been in a motorcycle accident, please call for an ambulance." He stood there for a few seconds with a look of disbelief on his face... Turns out he's an EMT, and had never seen someone wrecked who was that calm and composed.
Anyways, people ask how did I stay so calm? Well, I think part of it is genetics. Members of my family have this gift that when things happen, we go into a very calm, but very high, mental gear. We can be calm because we're processing everything that's going on around us, and we deal with it one step at a time. It just... happens. The other part is, yes, training. The MSF course, a bunch of training with the Boyscouts, and, self training for the Gunsite "Color Code"
White - Unprepared, this is the mental stage where if something happens, about all you can do is scream and run away.
Yellow - You're aware that threats exist, and you're looking for them, but there are currently none on your "radar."
Orange - Something done by some person caused you to label them as a potential threat. You still keep watching everything, but you're paying more attention to this one individual because of their behavior.
Red - The Orange threat that got your attention has turned actively hostile towards you. Time to do something...
I've found this can apply not just to "social engagements" but to driving, riding my motorcycle, basically ANY situation that involves other people. While the Color Code was developed as a set of loose guidelines that ends with you drawing a weapon to defend yourself, the mindset can be applied to a lot more of life.
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In all cases Do not let yourself touch something hard like a culvert, bumper, etc for that's where you get hurt. Ride it out. In helicopter aviation we said you can ball 'em up but you cant wad them up. think of it like a sheet of paper. if you take that sheet and crumple it up into a ball, you can unfold it into a fair facsimile of a sheet of paper. If you wad that sucker up into a tight ball it destroys its structure and will be difficult to unwad into a sheet of paper. so if things turn to shite and you can avoid hitting something or avoid having it hit you, you can walk away. hit something and you will get hurt. Another thing from helicopter aviation is termimology. the correct phrase is: " Oh Shit, Oh dear" if bad things happen and like Chuck, you need to get out the "ball of Flames" checklist
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White - Unprepared, this is the mental stage where if something happens, about all you can do is scream and run away.
Yellow - You're aware that threats exist, and you're looking for them, but there are currently none on your "radar."
Orange - Something done by some person caused you to label them as a potential threat. You still keep watching everything, but you're paying more attention to this one individual because of their behavior.
Red - The Orange threat that got your attention has turned actively hostile towards you. Time to do something...
I've found this can apply not just to "social engagements" but to driving, riding my motorcycle, basically ANY situation that involves other people. While the Color Code was developed as a set of loose guidelines that ends with you drawing a weapon to defend yourself, the mindset can be applied to a lot more of life.
And there are little ditties that go along with these. I know two of them ..
White - "When in danger or in doubt, Run in circles, scream and shout"
Orange - "When in doubt, whip it out."
Lannis