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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ncdan on August 13, 2019, 07:08:22 PM
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Hey guys, I just ordered a 3/4 light weight fiberglass helmet. I’ve only worn 1/2 helmets since my motor years, so 40 years. I thought I’d try a 3/4 for cold weather riding. Just curious as to what you guys prefer to protect your noggins.
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Full for me. Always.
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Since my Victory has a fairing and a windshield I wear a half helmet (Bell Pit Boss) over 90% of the time. If I'm not wearing the half helmet I'm wearing a Shark Evoline full - 3/4 helmet. The convertible/modular Shark may get replaced at the end of the year. If it does, I may be looking for a good 3/4 helmet that fits my round/oval head shape. Both the Bell and the Shark have a drop down sun shield so any new helmet will have to offer that option as well.
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I've worn a 3/4 helmet for most of 45 years riding, I also have a half helmet I wear when temps are over 90. I recently purchased a Fly Tourist helmet, chin piece removable, but still able to eat, drink, spit with the chin piece in place. It's flo green and gets pretty good attention from drivers. :bike-037:
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3/4
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Full
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Started regular sweet riding in 1979. Always wore a 3/4 helmet. I was introduced to a Nolan back in the late 80s I think. Tried it on in the showroom and it seemed to confining. A few months later I decided to try it and quickly got use to it. My last generation Nolan and my current Schuhberth have come a long way from then. Wouldn't ride without them.
GliderJohn
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since 1981 - Full.
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Always full.
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I like to hear whats going on when I ride.
(https://i.ibb.co/yBGQZX6/IMG-2254.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yBGQZX6)
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Full since I ripped my face up on a concrete culvert back in 72.
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I like to hear whats going on when I ride.
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I wear ear plugs because I value my hearing. :tongue:
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I wear full or modular. Once in a great while I will put on the 1/2 helmet for a short slower speed ride.
I prefer to ride in the clean air instead of behind a windshield and since I have had a few things cut off my skin I try and stay completely covered these days.
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Full-Modular on the street.
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Great responses!!!!
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I've always wore 3/4 or 1/2 till a couple years ago. I bought a shoei notec 11 , took awhile to get used to it , but now I wouldn't ride with out it
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since 1981 - Full.
The full for safety reasons or because you ride without a shield or fairing?
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I've worn only full face Arai since 1990. Don't recall what it was before that, but pretty sure they were full face as well. I ride year-round and want the weather protection since none of my bikes have more than small sport fairings. But even in summer the full face helps insulate from the hot furnace blast. Only in stop and go traffic do I heat up. When I hit an elk fifteen years ago and went over a twenty-foot embankment, landing on a boulder, the visor was pretty scraped up. Glad I had the full face.
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Always Shoei Neotec (modular) or Rf1200 (full).
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NC - in 1981, I was an assistant manager in a drug store making $200 per week. I bought my first bike, a Kawasaki 250CSR (pretend cruiser). I bought a Nava Helmet (remember those, I think they morphed into Nolan) for myself and my wife for a week's pay ($100 each). I had done some reading but it simply seemed to make sense to me that if you came off, you had a better chance in a full face. The Nava did have a large face area with much better vision than the Bells and other full faces of the time. I have also found them to be quiet using ear plugs and of course there are advantages in rain and cold. All of the above applies to me only, no judgments just my opinion.
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Full modular
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I used to always wear a full-face helmet and still try to make myself do it for longer trips. But in the last two or three years I've fallen in love with a 3/4 helmet. No windscreen, either. I don't much mind the bugs on my face anymore. I really like the feel of the wind and sun.
I'm not arguing for my practice.
Moto
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I've been crying here about a new modular for the last week.
that's a one and half. :violent1:
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I have a modular for touring, a 3/4 for the heat of summer, and full-faced for the rest of the time. I really like having some flexibility...
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Full modular for me.
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Full
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Full because I like them.
Glenn
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Always full. Even on the Vespa. I like my teeth.
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Full Face for me 95% of the time. I can't stand the wind in my eyes, even with my big chunky glasses. Sensitive eyes- same reason I cant wear contacts or deal with the 'air jet blast in the eye' during optical exams.
I do have an open face~3/4 helmet I wear occasionally, but for around town or short local runs... Only wear that if I'm sure to keep it at about 55mph or below!
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3/4 for day rides, full for long trips when rain and extreme cold is a potential factor. Both Nolans. Even the full is convertible into a 3/4 in short order.
I love the wind in my face, and HAVE to flip up the visor at every opportunity when wearing the full.
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I wear an HJC half shell for putting around in my small town. For everything else, I wear a 3/4 LSI Spitfire. Clean, comfortable, and has a retro look I like with modern tech.
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NC - in 1981, I was an assistant manager in a drug store making $200 per week. I bought my first bike, a Kawasaki 250CSR (pretend cruiser). I bought a Nava Helmet (remember those, I think they morphed into Nolan) for myself and my wife for a week's pay ($100 each). I had done some reading but it simply seemed to make sense to me that if you came off, you had a better chance in a full face. The Nava did have a large face area with much better vision than the Bells and other full faces of the time. I have also found them to be quiet using ear plugs and of course there are advantages in rain and cold. All of the above applies to me only, no judgments just my opinion.
Absolutely very good reasons Blu and the responses we are wanting to see from riders. Thanks!!
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Full face... because when you have a face like mine, you dare not make it any uglier by sliding it along pavement. Also full face helmets for my wife and kids, not because they're ugly, but because they have faces worth protecting...
Also, at the MSF course, they showed us the slide of where the human head hits the pavement in a motorcycle accident...
The chin area takes an awful lot of impacts... so yeah, full face for me and mine.... thank you very much.
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Always full. I don't even own one that isnt
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I've always worn full face, especially when going at higher speeds and longer distances, which is 90% of my riding. If I rode like a LOT of the Harley and Boutique guys (no judgement) into town to go to a restaurant or the weekly gathering, I might consider a 1/2, but normally I am out on the road, at speed, even when 'commuting' and have never wanted to risk it. Though the MGX screams "wear a half helmet'.... we will see....
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Full modular, HJC IS MAXII 2nd one I like them!
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All of the above?
I have a 3/4 with shield that I use it for around town/local trips.
I have a modular for traveling.
I have a full for winter.
That said, my new Nolan N100-5 modular will probably rid me of the 3/4 and the full.
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I figure if I am going to wear one it might as well give me the best protection, therefore full face. When I was young I wouldn't wear them because I hated having one on. As I have aged I am now wearing one in spite of my dislike.
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I figure if I am going to wear one it might as well give me the best protection, therefore full face. When I was young I wouldn't wear them because I hated having one on. As I have aged I am now wearing one in spite of my dislike.
I felt similar in my first riding incarnation, but after five years helmet free I went to full helmet and never looked back.
They are so much better now than the buckets we grew up with.
And somebody said " Only wear as much helmet as your head is important " or words to that effect.
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We wear Shoei-RF 1200 full face helmets with Sena SMH10 intercoms %100 of the time. We're thinking of modular with the sun shield and possibly built in Bluetooth for the next pair of helmets. I'm thinking a lighter color might be a wise choice also. Our helmets are black and get toasty when it's sunny out. I would like to talk my wife into a hi-viz color..
We don't listen to anything with the Bluetooth, but it's nice to be able to talk (warn) my better half of upcoming obstacles.
richy
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And somebody said " Only wear as much helmet as your head is important " or words to that effect.
Old guy in a motorcycle shop said it like this, "I sell $5 helmets to people with $5 heads."
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Full Modular 100% of the time.
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Full or Full Modular (Chin bar is ALWAYS DOWN when moving)
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Since it's often warm down here I mostly wear a high quality half for casual riding on my Cali. 1100EV sidecar rig. I wear a full on any highway rides, due to blowing sand, bugs, noise, rain, etc. I wear a full always on my Duc. 851, as you just can't trust that beast.
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Full - Arai, family owned, hand made (mostly), Snell approved.
When your as pretty as me, why take a chance? :thumb:
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Neotech 2 modular... down for most riding, up when at a stop or around town.
I sometimes ride the Excelsior around town with a 1/2, but rarely at highway speeds.
I keep my roached Arai Quantum in my shop to remind me of what happens when you hit a deer and face plant at 60mph. It's why I'm still here.
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Full face helmet always, and ear plugs. At my MSF class the instructor said there is a saying:
"Open Face helmet, closed coffin". I thought that was a bit harsh, but I want max protection.
Also, the instructor said that with a full face helmet always wear ear plugs. The noise at speed with the full face is much higher than OSHA limits, louder than without the helmet!? They have done studies that noise causes much fatigue. And I did an "experiment" riding with and without ear plugs with my full face helmet. It is LOUD without the ear plugs. So I guess there is something to it.
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Full face
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This is the 3/4 I just ordered. I’ve only rode in 1/2 helmets for 40 years. This brand advertises the smallest non mushroom helmets available. They actually use two shell sizes. One for small and medium and a larger shell for large and X large sizes.
(https://i.ibb.co/bzsz3WY/4-AA376-CF-967-A-44-A0-9-ED0-0-A36-B17-B2042.png) (https://ibb.co/bzsz3WY)
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This is the 3/4 I just ordered. I’ve only rode in 1/2 helmets for 40 years. This brand advertises the smallest non mushroom helmets available. They actually use two shell sizes. One for small and medium and a larger shell for large and X large sizes.
(https://i.ibb.co/bzsz3WY/4-AA376-CF-967-A-44-A0-9-ED0-0-A36-B17-B2042.png) (https://ibb.co/bzsz3WY)
I hope you like it!
Moto
P.S. If you don't, Bell's Custom 500 helmet uses five different shell sizes!
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I hope you like it!
Moto
P.S. If you don't, Bell's Custom 500 helmet uses five different shell sizes!
Wow, I didn’t realize any helmet company made a shell size for every size! I expect the Bell would cost quite a bit more than this one, 89.00. It weighs in at 2# and has a fiberglass shell. The Carbon fiber series is 160.00 but only weighs 1/2 pounds less. Thanks for the info Moto👍
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You're welcome. The regular Bell Custom 500's, in five shell sizes, go for $119.99. I don't know what they weigh. If the one you ordered fits your head really well I'd just keep it. :thumb:
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I used to wear a full face. I switched to a modular when I could no longer ride with out prescription glasses and found that putting them on with the full face was a pain to do. I am on my third or fourth Nolan. They just fit me better than most other brands.
I still have a 3/4 that I used on short rides when I had an EV. Just switched to a Norge and have not tried the 3/4 with it.
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Full face. Been a Shoei customer since the eighties.
... and now I wouldn't buy a helmet that wasn't pinlock ready.
Riding in heat isn't an issue up here but fogging lenses can be.
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So many options.
(https://i.ibb.co/K9FNrsW/reasy-rider.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K9FNrsW)
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Full only since the original Bell Star in the 70's. When I hit a deer 5 years ago the helmet saved my face. Saved for what I don't know, but at least I still have it.
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Full - Arai, family owned, hand made (mostly), Snell approved.
When your as pretty as me, why take a chance? :thumb:
Pictures requested! Not you buddy, the helmet 😂 just funning, thanks for the response 👍👍
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Eldo Jon used to have three full face helmets hanging in the garage. All had serious rash on the chin bar. "You about always land head first.."
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Eldo Jon used to have three full face helmets hanging in the garage. All had serious rash on the chin bar. "You about always land head first.."
He's going to run out of helmets...or luck :rolleyes:
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A rough statistical analysis (this is Norman math, I get to make the rules), counting mixed preferences as half scores and with arbitrary rounding, comes out something like this:
2% half helmets
24% three quarter helmets
74% full face helmets
Modulars were either ignored or counted as full face helmets.
Complaints regarding statistical techniques may be forwarded in PM. A complaint processing fee will apply.
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A rough statistical analysis (this is Norman math, I get to make the rules), counting mixed preferences as half scores and with arbitrary rounding, comes out something like this:
2% half helmets
24% three quarter helmets
74% full face helmets
Modulars were either ignored or counted as full face helmets.
Complaints regarding statistical techniques may be forwarded in PM. A complaint processing fee will apply.
Lol Norm, I ain’t seen this done before on here but darn good idea. Im in the 2% category, is that a bad thing😂
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I think it's just fine right up until ... well, let me quote my volunteer fireman roommate at the scene of a motorcycle / telephone pole fatality ...
" It was low speed - He'd probably have been okay if he was wearing a full face helmet."
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I think it's just fine right up until ... well, let me quote my volunteer fireman roommate at the scene of a motorcycle / telephone pole fatality ...
" It was low speed - He'd probably have been okay if he was wearing a full face helmet."
Sometimes there’s no rhyme or reason for the outcome of a motorcycle accident. Ive investigated two MC fatalities where the riders were wearing Bell helmets, one full face and one was a 3/4. Go figure.
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3/4 for me. I have 4 vertebrae fused in my c-spine. My peripheral vision has been reduced due to lack of movement in my neck. A full face is too restrictive for me. After the surgeries I put my AGV full in the trash. I guess if I ever crash I'll be taking it on the chin and that's a risk I'm willing to take.
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I ordered my 3/4 fiberglass helmet today. It was a difficult decision on the color issue as they had several to choose. All my helmets over the past few years have been flat black or white, for visibility purposes (white). However I’m changing my image from my evil HD past and getting more guzziest. I went with titanium (grayish)
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This one..(I’ve got two of them..)
I sometimes look at the 120 km/h 1/2” grit belt sander whizzing past my boots and wonder if I really need protection over my face and chin..
I always end up with the same answer... :rolleyes: :bike-037:
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And no, that’s not me..(there’s a story as usual)
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" And no, that’s not me..(there’s a story as usual) "
Round up the usual suspects !
I saw a helmet once that was donated to a traffic school instructor by the surviving occupant - it was ground off about 3/8" on the temple. Made a believer out of me. The previous owner said he remembered hitting his head seven times before he lost consciousness.
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I began riding with 3/4 helmets over 40 years ago, moving on to full face for several years after that, mostly to keep my face warm. But, since I used to wear glasses for most of my adult life, I found that I was destroying and replacing my glasses more often than helmets every time I put a full face on; my glasses were always more expensive to replace than helmets.
So, it has been 3/4 type helmets for the last 20 years, with a short clear visor and an internal sliding dark visor. Quite a few models out there are available in this design. I also have windscreens/ fairing on all 3 machines.
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" And no, that’s not me..(there’s a story as usual) "
Round up the usual suspects !
Sorry, over my head.
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mostly 3/4 with a shield and a windshield
sometimes full (naked bike or cold weather)
no modulars
no halfs
not yet
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Wore 3/4 helmet for years until I saw someone who went face down with one - not pretty. Been using full helmets since and modulars for the last 5-6 years. Will be switching to an ADV style helmet to get the broader field of vision soon. Maybe the Scorpion ADV modular if it fits well.
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Sorry, over my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXuBnz6vtuI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiXdPolca5w
The usual suspects ...
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Always full. Shoei RF 1000- 1100- 1200.
Till now I picked up a Shoei Neotec with the Sena made for it. When it’s hot fueling etc, flipped up.
Best helmet I’ve ever had
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45 years 3/4 helmet with sun visor,you can't put a sun visor on a full face helmet.Also I like the wind in my face and I find I can hear and see better,more aware of whats going on around me.I do have one full face I use on occasion ,rain or very cold.
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No one here will argue that the open face helmet provides acceptable protection for the sides, top and back of your head in a crash..
Why do the devotees of open face, feel that your face will not be removed in a front on crash ?
If it were legal to do so, would you ride in a full face helmet with no back ? One would think not because you’d remove the rear of your skull in a trip down the road.
Where does the reasoning lie, with the people who take a fatalistic attitude towards the prospect of sliding face down on a road at 100 km/h ?
The remnants of teeth, jawbone, nasal cavity and eyeballs wiped along a section of highway, would be a tasty feast for the waiting crows or other opportunistic scavengers..
So not everyone loses I guess.
Also the reasoning for adopting open face helmets because you were having to buy glasses due to the fact that you hadn’t worked out that putting them on AFTER you’ve donned your helmet is the way to go, is quite frankly infantile.
Did I read that this guy favoured cheaper open helmets because he got tired of buying new glasses ?
He won’t need to wear glasses if he removes his nose in a crash because there’ll be nothing to rest them on..!
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Also I like the wind in my face
What face ?
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Full face.
Been saved to many times from, birds, stones, bees, wasps, bogong moths, locusts and hail to even contemplate anything less.
To each his own.
Cheers
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No one here will argue that the open face helmet provides acceptable protection for the sides, top and back of your head in a crash..
Why do the devotees of open face, feel that your face will not be removed in a front on crash ?
If it were legal to do so, would you ride in a full face helmet with no back ? One would think not because you’d remove the rear of your skull in a trip down the road.
Where does the reasoning lie, with the people who take a fatalistic attitude towards the prospect of sliding face down on a road at 100 km/h ?
The remnants of teeth, jawbone, nasal cavity and eyeballs wiped along a section of highway, would be a tasty feast for the waiting crows or other opportunistic scavengers..
So not everyone loses I guess.
Also the reasoning for adopting open face helmets because you were having to buy glasses due to the fact that you hadn’t worked out that putting them on AFTER you’ve donned your helmet is the way to go, is quite frankly infantile.
Did I read that this guy favoured cheaper open helmets because he got tired of buying new glasses ?
He won’t need to wear glasses if he removes his nose in a crash because there’ll be nothing to rest them on..!
To your point Huzo, I responded to a motorcycle accident where a high dollar Bell racing helmet was removed from the deceased rider. However to your point my friend, his face was unscathed.
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To your point Huzo, I responded to a motorcycle accident where a high dollar Bell racing helmet was removed from the deceased rider. However to your point my friend, his face was unscathed.
Yeah mate.
You’ve seen more than I ever will and I understand that amazing incidents can occur in isolation. I also allow that it’s everyone’s choice. We ride bikes because there’s an element of danger or we’d all go and buy a Hyundai Getz and live forever.
It’s when you base your decision to go open face, so as not to have to buy new glasses...?
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Yeah mate.
You’ve seen more than I ever will and I understand that amazing incidents can occur in isolation. I also allow that it’s everyone’s choice. We ride bikes because there’s an element of danger or we’d all go and buy a Hyundai Getz and live forever.
It’s when you base your decision to go open face, so as not to have to buy new glasses...?
I hear ya brother and a legitimate point👍
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What I find even more astonishing is the numbers of cyclists in alien jurisdictions that wear no helmet at all! Not even small children! Not even in urban areas! Talk about abysmal parenting, let alone the appalling example it displays and the risk to life involved. Even a simple tumble over a car bonnet or curb can easily kill without cranial protection.
Parents won't allow their children to walk to school any more, yet routinely let them loose on a bicycle amongst city traffic without any basic PPE at all. Lock the callous, irresponsible bastards up I say. Like voting, it should be mandatory: not just for the intelligent, mobile & informed, but for lazy idiots, the handicapped, scumbags, no-hopers, vagabonds, chavs & bogans too.
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I've always worn full face, especially when going at higher speeds and longer distances, which is 90% of my riding. If I rode like a LOT of the Harley and Boutique guys (no judgement) into town to go to a restaurant or the weekly gathering, I might consider a 1/2, but normally I am out on the road, at speed, even when 'commuting' and have never wanted to risk it. Though the MGX screams "wear a half helmet'.... we will see....
This would be the perfect Full Face Helmet to go with your bike.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/simpson-ghost-bandit-carbon-helmet
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I hear ya KD, times has changed. I can remember as a kid we rode back from the fields sitting on the tailgate of a pickup. We worked the fields in the blazing sun wearing just shorts not realizing we would get skin cancer later in life. We drank from the garden hose and at 16 I smoked camel non filter cigarettes which were known as humpbacks. My first issued bullet proof vest was comfortable after I removed the Kevlar panels from the vest (probably not a good idea). Change comes slowly to some and some still reserve the right to make their own choices regardless of what others think.
Now back to which type of helmets we prefer. 👍
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... Like voting, it should be mandatory: not just for the intelligent, mobile & informed, but for lazy idiots, the handicapped, scumbags, no-hopers, vagabonds, chavs & bogans too.
I'm against mandatory voting for lazy idiots, scumbags, no-hopers, and vagabonds. Don't know about chavs and bogans, though.
Moto
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We should all be driving automobiles with roll cages and in full race gear.
Motorcycles are waaaaay to dangerous.
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hahahaaaa it's a wonder any of us are still alive.........
So, on this weekend past, I discovered my new mower at my Daughter's place. This is my 10 year-old Granddaughter at the controls. One of the neighbors took exception to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7za-pWx6A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7za-pWx6A)
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I'm against mandatory voting for lazy idiots, scumbags, no-hopers, and vagabonds. Don't know about chavs and bogans, though.
Moto
We should vote on it. :thumb:
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I'm against mandatory voting for lazy idiots, scumbags, no-hopers, and vagabonds. Don't know about chavs and bogans, though.
Moto
But then we would be down to a one party government. :popcorn:
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We should all be driving automobiles with roll cages and in full race gear.
Motorcycles are waaaaay to dangerous.
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hahahaaaa it's a wonder any of us are still alive.........
So, on this weekend past, I discovered my new mower at my Daughter's place. This is my 10 year-old Granddaughter at the controls. One of the neighbors took exception to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7za-pWx6A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw7za-pWx6A)
No safty goggles, hearing protection, boots, or even sunglasses? :evil: All fun and games until someone gets hurt, or sun cancer and hearing aids 40 years from now. :weiner: :copcar: :thewife: :thumb:
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Ok guys, how about them helmets 😂 y’all crack me up... dang I love this forum ❤️
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From Ncdan:
Ok guys, how about them helmets 😂 y’all crack me up... dang I love this forum ❤️
I take it that you are also a fan of the Marx Brothers? :evil:
GliderJohn
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Are "no helmets" still an option in the land of the free & the home of the brave? That "medical exemption" escape clause was rescinded in Oz sometime in the late 70s/ early 80s from memory.
We're all adults (even 'though I'm frequently accused by family of behaving otherwise), so apart from the drain on national fiscal & medical resources of road trauma, does the "own risk" rule still apply in other jurisdictions?
I've been likewise culpable myself, with rare & occasional "easy rider" wind-in-the-hair cranial nakedness around the farm & the odd bush track. Justifiable on the premise that I'm assuming responsibility for my own personal idiocy & irresponsibility.
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From Ncdan:I take it that you are also a fan of the Marx Brothers? :evil:
GliderJohn
Yep.
Richard Marx, Karl Marx...Skid Marx
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Full face for me. :thumb:
Too many miles with the old jet style. Sick of black eyes from bumble bees, black eyes from kicked up stones, wind burn, shredded face from hail, eyes full of fruit flies. Yeah, full face rule! :thumb: