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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mayor_of_BBQ on September 29, 2019, 11:39:55 AM
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I keep my Tiger for times like this :thumb:
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Hate to hear things aren't working for you, man. I don't have any sage advice. The world was pretty great when we were standing around & just talking at the Greenhouse.
I've got the same problem, just in reverse- multiple running bikes but no time or anywhere viable to go because I'm so buried & obligated here. It's become so normal that I don't even have a tag on any of them right now. That's part of the reason I'm building my loop project. It fits when I have any rare spare time I can find without having to leave the property.
Anytime you need to bitch or vent- Guzzi or otherwise- feel welcome to give me a buzz.
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That's why I'll never get rid of my 850 T. 1975 must be a great vintage, because I've never been stranded by one of those old Tontis and riding them since 1991.
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Mayor, I hear your discontent. I recently obtained a 83 Honda CB1000C for a second bike. No ECU, no FI, no thrills and frills, old school basics. It’s always good to have a plan B. Hang in there buddy!
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V 7-3 no more no less! Most bullet proof yet
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That's crazy that the clutch is out at 19,000. Wow. I have no words of wisdom. If you go the Kawasaki route I wish you the best. You should still come to our meet and greets of course! Keep us in the loop!
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Mayor,
How do you know the clutch is toast? That would be unusual for 19K. Also what are your electrical issues with the V65?
There are a smart bunch of guys here who will help you sort it out and stick with you till it is sorted.
I myself would be hesitant to invest $1000 in the Breva with the hope to get $3500 for it. If you like the bike and want to keep it it would be a different matter.
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You have my sympathy. I’ve been there myself. Kinda there right now because my V7 is down again with some crank position sensor fault.
Consider getting a completely different bike. You could go modern Japanese or Triumph to get reliability.
I’ve got a 16 Triumph Street Triple that has been flawless in terms of reliability. I don’t like it nearly as much as my Guzzi, but I have to admit it has never stranded me or given me problems.
I’ve also gone in the other direction with an old carbed Ducati. It has been totally reliable so far after replacing some worn components. And it has the benefit of having carbs and a crude inductive Ignition system which I at least understand and can field test.
Just curious. What’s the starting problem with your V65?
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How much trouble has the Breva been other than this clutch issue? Brevas are thought of as quite reliable, on the other hand V65s have never been known as bulletproof.
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I cant believe the clutch is out already?? Are you sure? Im not doubting your word, just checking, and what electrical problem are you having with the other bike?.
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Thanks Cliff, when it's good its very good... But it seems those times are fleeting. I started having these feelings after I won Outstanding Retro Modern with my v65 cafe at The Meltdown, and then the next day it wouldnt start lol
btw i checked out your site & youtube videos, the stone work is incredible.. amazing stuff!
I had some of the same turmoil with my V7 Sport & chased electrical issues for the first couple of years I rode it. Even had it die (again) in Asheville during a bachelor party, sent it back here to the shop in the back of a station wagon and went home to TN on an F1B Ducati. Eventually got it sorted, then had to do more & go completely through the bottom end of the engine. Finally got it great after that marriage crashed. Now it's waiting on me...
I don't do 50k a year on all vehicles combined (probably not even 25k) much less 50k on a bike. I like old bikes because they're cheap and simple enough that they can be fixed by me or another regular guy that I can afford. Some are even great reliable machines.
Thanks for the good words. I make everything except money. Anytime you're down this way, stop in.
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Bummer. I hate electrical issues, but have you considered a new harness on the V65? Weird that the clutch went on the big Breva with such low mileage. What exactly is that thing doing?
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There is a good tech in Black Mountain. He worked at the Aprilia dealer in Hendersonville up until they went out of business and then he went on his own. I can get his info if you like.
He is also a Guzzi guy.
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Similar position, been waiting on the clutch for my V11 Sport for over a month now, looks like it's on a slow boat from Italy so getting a bit frsutrated with no bike especially as the weather's been greta in Wellington for the last few weeks.
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Sorry about the Breva. The Kaw is a cool looking bike.
Send photos. :thumb:
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Guzzi has been making mechanics out of riders since 1921, but evidently failed on you. :cry:
You've gotten me really interested in the V65 electrical problem. The hell of it is, even if we figure it out, it requires you getting us the data and you fixing it.
I really like fixing my own vehicles - eliminates hauling it somewhere, leaving it in their care, waiting for them to get to it, paying shop rates and markup on parts,, wondering if it was repaired properly and to my high standards, and hauling it home.
Doing it myself, there's only the wait for pats to arrive and making time to work on it. Of course, I've collected tools over my lifetime so have pretty much everything needed for most jobs.
I guess I've been pretty lucky with my three guzzis - they've all been dependable once the problems resolved. I worked on the clutch in each one, but for different reasons. Even when things weren't right, they still got me around. But I do understand your frustration and know how it is having multiple vehicles just to ensure at least one is operational, and having them all down at the same time. Really sucks!
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My Jackal almost broke me for the brand.
I got rid of my B11 at 15k and my little bro (who bought it) lost the clutch by 20k. And hell my B11 was otherwise better than my Jackal.
My V7s have been bordering on flawless by comparison.
We added the MKIII cause the MkI was so good. Looked at a duty Twin too, but glad we went with the Guzzi.
But ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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A fried clutch at 19k would be very unusual unless abused, but I no from reading your posts over the years that doesn’t fit you. I hope you find out it’s something different than a ruined clutch.
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A fried clutch at 19k would be very unusual unless abused, but I no from reading your posts over the years that doesn’t fit you. I hope you find out it’s something different than a ruined clutch.
Dunno.
I’d settle for the clutch.
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Dunno.
I’d settle for the clutch.
It's a particularly pricey job on a CARC Guzzi.
Parts were expensive and then there's crabbing it if you don't go the work yourself.
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It's a particularly pricey job on a CARC Guzzi.
Parts were expensive and then there's crabbing it if you don't go the work yourself.
Yeah Kev.
I’ve got it coming to me at some stage..$$$$$
But at least I can back myself to get through it largely unscathed. It’s maps, computers and that stuff where I’m clueless.
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I just post a reply-----damn it disapeared---I('m not goin thro that again (typing) :boozing:
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Been there and I gave it a good fight. I easily spent more time wrenching on my Guzzis than riding them. My BMW R1200R is a great all rounder and gives me that big twin torque. Handles quite well. I picked up a Honda CB1100 this year just because. Spectacularly smooth and beautifully put together. Get yourself something reliable (hint: red, wing logo, five letters starting with H and ending with A) and get out there on the open road.
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Get yourself something reliable.
Excellent advice there. My Guzzis have been very reliable but if they hadn't been I would've moved on. Maybe keep one.
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Could be worse. You could be into old Nortons...Or Buells...or Urals! All joking aside, it is nice to have a Japanese bike in the mix as your go-to bike when nothing else seems to want to work. I have a saying by Peter Egan stuck to my shop wall...."There's no such thing as too many motorcycles, only too many batteries!"
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It's a particularly pricey job on a CARC Guzzi.
Parts were expensive and then there's crabbing it if you don't go the work yourself.
It is? How so? I know a bloke in a wheelchair who with a bit of assisting with lifting can have the gearbox of a B11 on the floor in 2.5 hours. When I made a rod for my own back with a 1200 Sport and had to get the gearbox out three times n the last time I think it took me 40 minutes! But that was practice and the need for it was all my own fault! :grin:
Pete
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I have thrown in the towel on Guzzi ownership at least 4 times now. Sold every nut and bolt, copies of books and spares. There is always someone willing to scoop up your Guzzis/parts for a song. :wink: Last 2 times I've had a "Coming to Jesus" Guzzi moment (line stolen from Michael D, :grin: ) I have bought Triumph or Yamaha. I get less of a grin and satisfaction with BOGS (Bikes Other Than Guzzi, t.m.) but they start when I go to the garage and wanna ride. The real attraction with Guzzis is the outstanding people you get to hang with, and the joy of ownership when they are running right. Many of us will no longer be able to ride in a decade, give or take. I decided that riding was more important than rolling on the floor earning Guzzi "cred". This ain't the MGNOC. Noone will disown you if you buy a BOG. :grin:
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With so many other bikes to buy out there why stick with something you find to be unsatisfactory for you and what you want to get out of riding motorcycles? Its not like MG is the only option you have. I have been riding Guzzi for almost fifty years now and have had many issues but I keep riding the brand because I like the total package of people and the smile the bikes have given me for all of these years. It is simply a matter that what I want in riding is served by the bikes and I keep doing it because it makes my day. Problems and all. And yes Shorty I am a life long member of the MGNOC. And I don't look down on anyone for what they ride or what type of riding they are into. Guzzi is a very small side bar in motorcylcling and is surly not for everyone into riding. All of the Guzzi events I have attended in the many years I have been riding the brand have been open to all brands of bikes and a good time time has been the order of the day. The brad is what it is and if the problems that come along with that are not what you want then by all means go out and find what will make your riding experience what you want it to be. As others have noted your time is best spent doing what you find to be the best for you.
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So what exactly is this clutch doing to make you think it’s buggered?
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It is? How so? I know a bloke in a wheelchair who with a bit of assisting with lifting can have the gearbox of a B11 on the floor in 2.5 hours. When I made a rod for my own back with a 1200 Sport and had to get the gearbox out three times n the last time I think it took me 40 minutes! But that was practice and the need for it was all my own fault! :grin:
Pete
Good to know, but he's done it a few times and had a good mentor. The shops around here were reluctant to tackle it and charged Jay significantly both in parts and labor IIRC.
Story as old as time in the Guzzi world, at least here in the US.
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I'll spare you (most of) the details, but I know the feeling and you have my sympathy
2 of my 3 having been giving me the fits and the 3rd took a while to sort out.
That said once they are sorted because they are reasonably simple engines and gearboxes my experience is that they are pretty reliable, perhaps not Japanese reliable but good nevertheless
The problem with the 2 I'm currently battling with is they came out of the factory around 99-2000 and the quality control at that time was appallling at best, I hope it improved.
One with less than 10k needing the cylinders relined and one with less than 5k and some sort of low oil pressure/high oil temperature
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Last time Guzzi was my main ride was around 2006. It was an SP III. It was a nice enough bike, but I have several pics of it dismantled by the road. Replaced it with a 05 Kawasaki Concours and never looked back. Have 70K on the C-10 now and no issues. Still have and ride Guzzi's.....but.
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I have had my V9 for 3 months and 1,000 miles and my horn doesn't work. The other day I found my tail-light and brake light don't either.
My nearest dealer is 2.5 hours away or so.
I'm looking forward to the excellent warranty service that Moto Guzzi is known for. :clock:
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There's a rumor that Luap is going to change the name of the forum to
GUZZI ANONYMOUS
Next we'll have GA meetings. :sad:
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What is the clutch lever end-play on the Breva?
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What is the clutch lever end-play on the Breva?
Hydraulic clutches don't have an adjustment or generally even a specification. The play is determined by the clutch master cylinder bore and stroke.
I guess a knackered slave or master cylinder would prevent it from fully releasing allowing the clutch to slip and burn.
At this point I don't THINK there's anything more that can be checked without disassembly, but Pete can correct me if I'm wrong.
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After I did a bit of thinking about "Yep, I've been there; yep, I've felt that frustration" (as many of us have with out Guzzis, I suspect), I stepped back and took a larger view.
We're talking about a 12-year-old Italian motorcycle, and a 35-year-old Italian motorcycle here.
I mean, what sort of 35-year-old ANYTHINGS will take you back and forth to work with little or no trouble?
The issue could just as easily be about a 12-year-old Fiat and a 35-year-old Dodge pickup truck, or a pair of Honda motorcycles. Like, what are we expecting out of our Italian exotics these days?
We all know about, and love to hear about, the folks that have 250,000 miles on their Guzzis, and there are quite a few. But their level of mechanical and electrical expertise, or their access to the same, is commensurate with the performance their getting out of their antiques .... ?
Just maundering.
Lannis
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Worn clutch plates, from what I just read. I had one at 15K mi or some such mileage. He had come off a Aprillia Mana and was sitting on hills riding the clutch at lights. It wore out. Maybe before you got it this had happened. The thing has those crappy, come apart, plates in it.
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So sorry you are frustrated, and unable to ride. I made a similar decision with my old Yamaha's back in the early 90's. Didn't/couldn't trust them anymore for daily riding. I bought a C-10 Concours. Because I couldn't let go of my XS11, and lets be honest, it wasn't and still isn't worth squat to sell, I kept it. It's been in storage since 2012, and hope one day to get it running again and ride locally.
I'm relatively new to Guzzi, bought my first (a 2007 Griso) in 2015, added a Norge, then a Stornello, and recently traded the Norge for an MGX (jury is still out on that decision). I've put almost 8K on the Griso, 4K on the Stornello, 10K on the Norge and 3K on the MGX so far and all have been completely trouble free other than an initial problem with the Norge that once sorted was a very nice bike.
Before giving up on the brand, maybe try one of the newer models? Or if you go to something else, keep the one Guzzi you really like, get it sorted and running and know you have at least one reliable bike. I really like the new CB1000 R and CB1100, though the Kawasaki Z900 looks to be the best of the retro Japanese bikes.
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It is kinda strange , reports of Jackals being unreliable , exploding clutches , all kinds of electrical issues with certain models . Not doubting anyone's statements , these things aren't a Honda , but I have had pretty good luck with the '01 Jackal , as did the PO . Yeah, it needed a transmission bearing at 80K miles , and she started getting kinda tired at about 140K miles , but the old girl just kept going . Hoping now that the Bassa is beginning to get sorted that it will make 100K miles W/O any real drama . As always , YMMV . Just my 2 cents worth .
There was the broken green wire incident that required sleeping on the ground next to the old Jackal , but that didn't really cost anything to fix :laugh:
Dusty
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Let me first say, I have clutch fluid, it's full & clean. The lever is not fouling anything on the bars, the little widget is activating the clutch lever switch, and the clutch seems to be engaging, as you can (sorta) change gears.
I rode the bike to work, it seemed fine, has been working perfectly.
When I went to leave work, I start the bike and put it in first, give it throttle and let off the clutch, but the bike barely wants to roll.... That's weird, engine sounds normal but when you pull in the clutch, the normal dry clutch clackty chatter seems very subdued--deff not loud as normal.
Again pull the clutch, check that i'm in first? Where is neutral?, I think I'm now in first... revv it up and let off the clutch... bike rolls lazily, but deff doesn't bite and take off?? Now I am crossing the parking lot at 5k rpm and barely doing 15mph. Pull the clutch, click gears up & down trying to find positive engagement... 2nd and 3rd SEEM to be there, but still not positively in gear it feels?
Big hill to roll down, so I clutch & hunt around, trying to get into a gear that will propel me forward... Rolling home, cannot climb even a mild hill... For all the world it feels like I am riding with the clutch pulled in 2/3 of the way and it is just slipping at the engagement point.... As if I am slipping the clutch constantly.
I only live a couple easy miles from work, wife is at work, no one to call so I try to limp home.
I ride home, 5-6k rpm in second & third (never went higher) because I'm going 20mph with the engine roaring. Now i smell clutch. I can feel the heat radiating off the engine & trans. Again, if feels like I am riding with the clutch pulled in 1/2 way and it's just slipping at engagement point.
Make it home, oh boy i can really smell clutch now... coast into driveway and around the side of the house to garage. Stop the bike, the heat off the engine & trans are intense. Can't touch either for more than a split second (i am a chef and have excellent hot hands).
After it cools I check engine, trans, and final drive fluids plus clutch fluid... all are full and in good condition. Pull the timing plug and try to see in the bell housing, looks clean and dry in there and the gear is in perfect shape.
So those were my symptoms... any advice is appreciated.
My opinion, the bike suddenly got a clutch release issue...You tried to ride with the the clutch partially engaged..It smoked and likley glazed and needs replacement whether it did or not before...Might be other defective parts inside...It sucks that's for sure...
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Try backing off the adjustment. Quite possibly that's the issue. Like brakes, if the master cylinder piston covers the return hole, the brakes will lock on. So if the clutch master is somewhat engaged all the time, the clutch will be activated.
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Try backing off the adjustment. Quite possibly that's the issue. Like brakes, if the master cylinder piston covers the return hole, the brakes will lock on. So if the clutch master is somewhat engaged all the time, the clutch will be activated.
Good idea :thumb:
Dusty
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Mayor,
So sorry to read about your frustration. But as has already been posted, Moto Guzzi is not the only fun motorcycle brand. On this forum Moto Guzzis obviously hold special power over some. Put the least amount of money as you can into your current Guzzis and either trade them off or sell them and move on. Either that or move them to a corner of the garage for some time in the future when you're looking for a project. As you know, even in a small niche brand, neither of your two current Guzzis hold any particular value because they're not collectible, so the less additional money you pour into them the better.
Life is way too short to have so much frustration with a hobby item. Motorcycling is an amazingly enjoyable activity. Don't let a particular brand or model ruin it for you. Remember, every brand and most models of motorcycles have internet forums with dedicated owners who love what they're riding. Explore a little, increase your enjoyment and reduce your stress. All will be well again, it really will.
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gee, you are really not lucky....
the main reason i ride a guzzi is the reliability, i run a v65 as a daily transport hav been doing so for years...
first a V65TT, now a lario.
combined over 200.000 km.
basically you need a good mechanic
there is nothing in a smallblock complicated enough to need to be repaired twice.
even a clutch change shouldnt take more than half a day.
having said that , the only time i managed to destroy a V65 clutch in 20kkm was when using my V65TT for off road racing.
even then , the clutch plate was not worn , but had rattled to bits
makes me wonder what happened to your breva , to cause the clutch to fail.
I know your frustration , i once used a cagiva 900 elefant as a daily transport, basicaly spent most of my weekends on maintenance and repairs, just to see it break down when i needed it..
not funny....
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I have had my V9 for 3 months and 1,000 miles and my horn doesn't work. The other day I found my tail-light and brake light don't either.
My nearest dealer is 2.5 hours away or so.
I'm looking forward to the excellent warranty service that Moto Guzzi is known for. :clock:
Have you checked your fuses? Has any work been done on the bike for its first service yet. Sometimes things can happen when a new bike is serviced that might have caused an issue.
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Let me first say, I have clutch fluid, it's full & clean. The lever is not fouling anything on the bars, the little widget is activating the clutch lever switch, and the clutch seems to be engaging, as you can (sorta) change gears.
I rode the bike to work, it seemed fine, has been working perfectly.
When I went to leave work, I start the bike and put it in first, give it throttle and let off the clutch, but the bike barely wants to roll.... That's weird, engine sounds normal but when you pull in the clutch, the normal dry clutch clackty chatter seems very subdued--deff not loud as normal.
Again pull the clutch, check that i'm in first? Where is neutral?, I think I'm now in first... revv it up and let off the clutch... bike rolls lazily, but deff doesn't bite and take off?? Now I am crossing the parking lot at 5k rpm and barely doing 15mph. Pull the clutch, click gears up & down trying to find positive engagement... 2nd and 3rd SEEM to be there, but still not positively in gear it feels?
Big hill to roll down, so I clutch & hunt around, trying to get into a gear that will propel me forward... Rolling home, cannot climb even a mild hill... For all the world it feels like I am riding with the clutch pulled in 2/3 of the way and it is just slipping at the engagement point.... As if I am slipping the clutch constantly.
I only live a couple easy miles from work, wife is at work, no one to call so I try to limp home.
I ride home, 5-6k rpm in second & third (never went higher) because I'm going 20mph with the engine roaring. Now i smell clutch. I can feel the heat radiating off the engine & trans. Again, if feels like I am riding with the clutch pulled in 1/2 way and it's just slipping at engagement point.
Make it home, oh boy i can really smell clutch now... coast into driveway and around the side of the house to garage. Stop the bike, the heat off the engine & trans are intense. Can't touch either for more than a split second (i am a chef and have excellent hot hands).
After it cools I check engine, trans, and final drive fluids plus clutch fluid... all are full and in good condition. Pull the timing plug and try to see in the bell housing, looks clean and dry in there and the gear is in perfect shape.
So those were my symptoms... any advice is appreciated.
Just PM'd you. I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is and how to fix it.
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Have you checked your fuses? Has any work been done on the bike for its first service yet. Sometimes things can happen when a new bike is serviced that might have caused an issue.
I was about to do the 1,000 mile service yesterday. The horn is ALSO out, which I suspect is a relay. I did check the fuses, after checking the voltages supplied to the tail-light and brake light, which were pitifully low, on the order of millivolts. The one filament for the tail-light was broken, while the brake light was still functional (testing with 9V and continuity).
My point is, that's two electrical problems too many for a 1,000 mile bike.
I hope it's just teething, but I'm aware of another V9 with the tail-light issue.
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Just PM'd you. I'm pretty sure I know what the problem is and how to fix it.
Rear main seal leaking?
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I'm guessing the hydraulic clutch reservoir is faulty. Does it have a breather hole on the cap? Is this blocked perchance?
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Personally, I’d crack open the hydraulics somewhere and see if it is under pressure even though the clutch lever isn’t depressed. Maybe releasing pressure on clutch hydraulics would show you that you now have full clutch engagement. Can you put it on a centerstand and rotate the rear wheel to gauge clutch function?
I like the suggestion that the lever doesn’t have enough free travel to uncover the other port. I once eliminated a bit too much “free travel” on the rear brake on a BMW F800S. Seemed fine at first. But slowly the pressure built up until the rear wheel was locked up due to brake pressure. Turns out that this system needed a fair bit of free play to uncover the other port and release pressure.
Your symptoms sound like the clutch equivalent of my rear brake adventure.
Of course, now it’s possible you really do have clutch problems due to all the slipping and heat from trying to get home. Or maybe not. I suspect these things may be pretty tough.
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Personally, I’d crack open the hydraulics somewhere and see if it is under pressure even though the clutch lever isn’t depressed. Maybe releasing pressure on clutch hydraulics would show you that you now have full clutch engagement. Can you put it on a centerstand and rotate the rear wheel to gauge clutch function?
I like the suggestion that the lever doesn’t have enough free travel to uncover the other port. I once eliminated a bit too much “free travel” on the rear brake on a BMW F800S. Seemed fine at first. But slowly the pressure built up until the rear wheel was locked up due to brake pressure. Turns out that this system needed a fair bit of free play to uncover the other port and release pressure.
Your symptoms should like the clutch equivalent of my rear brake adventure.
Of course, now it’s possible you really do have clutch problems due to all the slipping and heat from trying to get home. Or maybe not. I suspect these things may be pretty tough.
This is my theory.
I'm betting that the plunger on the clutch lever has wound itself out, pushing the piston in and not only blocking the bleed port but also engaging the clutch mechanism. While stopped heat soak-back has made the fluid expand making a bad situation worse.
First thing to do is pull the remote bleeder hose out from under the seat, get a 14mm spanner and a 10mm spanner, point the nipple away from the bike or anything you don't want squirted with brake fluid and crack the bleed nipple. If it ejaculates a squirt of brake fluid you may even hear the plates thump back into engagement. Now stick it in gear ad push it fore and aft, (Don't touch the clutch.). If it thumps against the gear dogs and tries to turn the motor you know the clutch is now home and must of been being held in engagement by hydraulic pressure. The cause for that is almost certainly that bloody adjustable plunger on the clutch lever itself.
Pete
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Yup …..they're not for everyone.
That's why I love em :grin:
Ciao
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Thanks for your post Mayor , I’ve had some pretty interesting times myself over the years but can’t seem to give Guzzi the goodbye kiss . My first was a 1000SP used and the main seal started puking oil after about 2000 km . Sold it to a fellow enthusiast who had the talent and time to get it back on the road . Bought a new 07 Norge , no problems , then a new 09 Griso that ticked along just fine . Traded it in on a new 012 Stelvio that left me on the side of the road 3 times , once on Hwy I-5 60 miles from Seattle and was flat bedded to Dave Richardson’s shop in Seattle . 2 more failures later with lots of dealer time in between but the problem was never solved . Sold it with full disclosure and just saw it back on the market last month . The new Stelvio let down really burned my confidence in Guzzi and I held on to that resentment for a longtime . Guess it was just my turn for a lemon . Best luck so far is with my 04 V11 Ballabio and a wonderful 73 Eldo restored by George Dockray a few years back . Great bikes with no let downs so far . I thought I’d give a Yam FJR a chance last year but it just put me to sleep . Sold it shortly after. I probably should be in therapy but thank goodness for like minded owners on this site who understand this damn obsession . We are not alone !
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I feel your frustration in not being able to ride.
I'm not a mechanic or electrician either, but realistically, for myself if I expect my bikes to run well, I know I'll have to figure it out and do the work myself. The so called "shaved apes" have taken over most of the service shops in my area, the prospect of running bikes back and forth to have shoddy work done at premium prices is more frustration than I can bear.
It sounds like you have at least one good mechanic in your area, I'd line him up in the off season to get rid of the gremlins; having 5 different mechanics work on something, sounds like a nightmare.
That special spirit that you mention about guzzis, it's alive in the community as well,,, I think they've already solved your clutch issue as outlined above, hopefully the plates aren't knackered and it ends up being an easy fix, and you can get back out for some wind therapy.
Re your V65 if the carbs are clean & flowing fuel, your valves adjusted to speck, good battery, points, condensors, coils, spark plug & wires, starter interruptus relay, and good clean connections throughout and it still won't start,,, I'd do what KiwiRoy recommended to me, when I faced those same circumstances with my CX100,,, replace the 35 yr old ignition switch. wag fwiw ymmv
Good luck with them and hope you get riding soon.
Ps UJM's do nothing for me, but that new Z900rs ? that you're eyeballing is the sweetest of the ujm retro's imo :thumb:
Kelly
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My 07 Norge has over 60,000 miles on the original clutch.They have basically the same drive train as your Breva. I wonder when you last changed the fluid in the slave cylinder (its so easily done with the remote bleeder hose that's under the seat.) ,if its dirty it could sure cause the problems with the clutch not engaging as has been described.Unfortuna tely I think you have ruined the clutch by riding your bike 2 miles with the clutch half engaged.
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Randy. I disagree. There's a problem but it's not the owner's fault.
Pete
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That's crazy that the clutch is out at 19,000. Wow. I have no words of wisdom. If you go the Kawasaki route I wish you the best. You should still come to our meet and greets of course! Keep us in the loop!
The clutch went out on my 2006 Breva 1100 around 20k miles as well.
The friction material delaminated from the discs.
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Randy. I disagree. There's a problem but it's not the owner's fault.
Pete
Would you have ridden the bike with a badly slipping clutch? :wink:
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No, but the problem pre-existed the riding and he felt he had to get home. Would I have done it? No. But I'm not a chef, I'm a mechanic.
As for delaminating plates? Yes, that is a possibility but from the information given it doesn't gel with the problem.
Pete
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What you need to do is buy an old Norton, it will make your Guzzi problems seem very insignificant. :wink:
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What you need to do is buy an old Norton, it will make your Guzzi problems seem very insignificant. :wink:
Or a new Ural :laugh:
Dusty
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Chad.. I know it is a *long* way for you to travel, but bring your V65 here, and I will fix it for you. I remember very well when you offered that bike to me for free to put the Aero engine in it. I'll fix it for free, too.
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I am going to have him look at it soon, if i can't get it sorted with his help, I may well take you up on that!
Man, I'd get that thing on a trailer and head North to Indiana.
Did you read Chuck's journal on his complete electrical maintenance process on his V65? Every circuit and connector taken apart and made right, you'd never be fighting electrical problems again.
And one nice porchetta is all it would cost!
Lannis
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I vouch for Chuck, he road my v65 once and told me exactly what the minor problem I was having! Don’t let the fact that gravity as kept his height in check. If brains and a good heart had anything todo with it, he’d be seven feet tall.
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I vouch for Chuck, he road my v65 once and told me exactly what the minor problem I was having! Don’t let the fact that gravity as kept his height in check. If brains and a good heart had anything todo with it, he’d be seven feet tall.
Back away from the bong, Chad.. :grin: but thanks.. :embarrassed:
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I vouch for Chuck, he road my v65 once and told me exactly what the minor problem I was having! Don’t let the fact that gravity as kept his height in check. If brains and a good heart had anything todo with it, he’d be seven feet tall.
Yeah ...
Back away from the bong, Chad.. :grin: but thanks.. :embarrassed:
I agree with Chad , no bong needed .
Dusty