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Title: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: bigbikerrick on October 30, 2019, 12:39:36 PM
Hello folks, I ran into this interesting sidecar setup when browsing Craigslist this morning. CBR 600 motor mounted inside sidecar driving both rear wheels....Yeah Baby!!  I think I could get into some trouble with that rig!
Rick.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/d/venice-sidecar-motorcycle-bmw/7009945228.html
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: John A on October 30, 2019, 02:50:28 PM
That is interesting, Rick.  It looks promising, I’d at least go look at it if it was closer.  I’d like to see how he set up the rear drive.
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: ratguzzi on October 30, 2019, 04:08:42 PM
I had an idea for years that I haven't made anything out of yet. A hybrid sidecar. The sidecar with motorized wheel and battery packs to propel it, solar panels on the body and if you run low, start the regular motorcycle motor and drive/recharge the batteries.
JB
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: Lannis on October 30, 2019, 04:49:18 PM
I can't get past ads with gross and explicit keyword spamming, that bring any motorcycle-related search to the ad even if you have no interest ...

"Surely, in vain the net is spread In the sight of any bird ..."

Lannis
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: Roebling3 on October 30, 2019, 04:53:06 PM
K75's are slugs w/out a side car. A side car with a driven and sprung wheel, w/brake?, will be worse. The entire notion demands lengthy,  serious research and clever analysis; if you move forward. R3~   
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: bigbikerrick on October 30, 2019, 05:44:10 PM
Quote from: Roebling3 on October 30, 2019, 04:53:06 PM
K75's are slugs w/out a side car. A side car with a driven and sprung wheel, w/brake?, will be worse. The entire notion demands lengthy,  serious research and clever analysis; if you move forward. R3~

You are very correct , R3.I would love to see the drivetrain setup up close. I would think with both driven wheels,and a differential It would handle somewhat like my goldwing trike......but "different" , maybe much different! :grin:
  I showed it to my son, he said "badass!", I showed it to my wife,and she said "deathtrap"!  :thewife: :thewife:
 :thewife:Rick.
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: bigbikerrick on October 30, 2019, 05:46:28 PM
Quote from: ratguzzi on October 30, 2019, 04:08:42 PM
I had an idea for years that I haven't made anything out of yet. A hybrid sidecar. The sidecar with motorized wheel and battery packs to propel it, solar panels on the body and if you run low, start the regular motorcycle motor and drive/recharge the batteries.
JB

Thats a great idea, John. The battery packs would serve as ballast, and it would be totally stealthy in "E" mode!
Rick.
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: John A on October 30, 2019, 07:27:15 PM
Quote from: Roebling3 on October 30, 2019, 04:53:06 PM
K75's are slugs w/out a side car. A side car with a driven and sprung wheel, w/brake?, will be worse. The entire notion demands lengthy,  serious research and clever analysis; if you move forward. R3~


But the underpowered beemer engine isn’t even there anymore, it’s powered by a 600 CBR engine in the sidecar.  Even that will be down on power for the minimum one hp per lb. it’s an interesting approach but I’d use a couple of Griso or similar engines. 
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: Rusnak_322 on October 31, 2019, 03:18:12 PM
from the ad "Sidecar does not lift in turns stays flat on the ground"

what is the point of a sidecar if you can't run it up on two wheels around the turns?
Title: Re: An interesting approach to sidecar propulsion! (NGC)
Post by: guzzisteve on October 31, 2019, 04:08:32 PM
A friend of mine and Mfg of my sidecar rides a Volks rig. For years he built Trikes from VW's, trailers, sidecars. I met him in 78 while running the farm. I went to pass a sidecar rig to find out there was no motor in the HD frame, I waved and dropped back behind him. At the stop sign I learned the motor was in front of the trans under the chair. He had 2 truck tarp strap's to the bars to help steer it to one side. He is still riding that rig, I have seen front motor, rear motor, 2WD & 1WD which it is now.  It's quite the bike.