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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: GonzoB on November 15, 2019, 03:50:54 PM
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Hi All.
Most of my bike travels are touring with pillion, so on my newly-acquired '07 Breva I needed to accommodate some luggage.
The bike came with the Guzzi quick-release rear bag:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/guzzibag.jpg)
but it's not very big, so I made a quick-release coupling for the tank:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/quick-release.jpg)
The idea is that I can remove and replace it quickly when refueling. I think I'll remove the coupling when I'm not touring (2 screws). With the bag in place it looks like this:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/tankbag.jpg)
Next, I made a rack adapter for another bag I had:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/rearrack.jpg)
and mounted the bag:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/rearpack.jpg)
Finally I made pannier bag support frames for the quick-release Givi E21 panniers I had from my previous ride:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/e21.jpg)
The whole bike now looks like:
(https://gonzos.net/guzzi/luggage.jpg)
I had to juggle the position of the panniers to clear the mufflers and to allow room for my pillion's boot. It ended up that making them the same angle as the mufflers met all the requirements and looked OK.
Gonzo
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Well done. That'll work.
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Love the homebrew mounts. Great feeling when you devise something and it just works.
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Love the homebrew mounts. Great feeling when you devise something and it just works.
Apparently Guzzi make a similar quick-release adapter that fits on the tank cap bracket. A friend told me about it, but I haven't seen it, so I had to imagine what it might look like. I 3D printed the grey bracket side plates and used some alum tubing, but it wasn't quite "it just works" - I needed a couple of iterations to get it right.
Gonzo
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The manner in which you side-to-side stabilized the "borse lateralli" - saddle bags - is impressive. The support frame ties one saddle bag to the other and to the rear of the bike - and the stabilizing bar from muffler support to muffler support looks stout (and it is straight). Also, the stabilizing / mounting bar contacts the saddlebag frames right through the likely centre of mass of the respective bag.
Cool.
Did you use a MIG torch for welding, or ??
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Thanks,
I wanted to get a 3-point mounting and the rear rack bolting points plus the footpeg were in just the right places. The Guzzi pannier frame is only two-point and has its lower mounting point higher up than the footpegs, which I think is less than ideal. My biggest worry was that the rear rack is only rated to 3 kg, but I know that these things are notoriously under-rated. I think it's strong enough.
The frames are oxy bronze-welded together, including attaching the left-to-right cross-piece to the packrack. That bit was a problem, as I welded it off the bike (naturally), during which process the rack stress-relieved itself with the heat and wouldn't bolt back onto the bike. More heating and bending (and swearing in Italian) was required.
The test will be next weekend when it gets its first outing.
Gonzo
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Apparently Guzzi make a similar quick-release adapter that fits on the tank cap bracket. A friend told me about it, but I haven't seen it, so I had to imagine what it might look like. I 3D printed the grey bracket side plates and used some alum tubing, but it wasn't quite "it just works" - I needed a couple of iterations to get it right.
Gonzo
On the GRiSO ghetto, there's a whole slew of threads on tank bags & mounts, and one of the members there (Onur) manufactures them for GRiSOs and some other Guzzis. I note that the Breva tank cap surround looks the same as that on some other Guzzis. Check it out for an elegant solution when your tank bag reaches its use-by date.
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Hey Gonzo, if you ever need a replacement for the plywood adapter plate, made out of plastic, give me a shout.
Dave
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Funny you should say that Dave. I've recently replaced the plywood with a cut-down plastic chopping board! UHMWPE I think.
Thanks for the offer - great minds....
Gonzo
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Funny you should say that Dave. I've recently replaced the plywood with a cut-down plastic chopping board! UHMWPE I think.
Thanks for the offer - great minds....
Gonzo
LOL! Just what I had in mind. Lots of chopping boards gone through my CNC.