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Title: The dark side info
Post by: steven c on January 06, 2020, 09:36:27 AM
 Good video on the subject of using car tires.
https://www.rideapart.com/articles/391215/car-tire-motorcycle-bad-idea/
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: Knuckle Dragger on January 06, 2020, 03:51:03 PM
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot??
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: LowRyter on January 06, 2020, 03:51:59 PM
The video seemed pretty cool but I'd like to know the air pressure.

The words were totally anti which surprised me.  After seeing the video, I thought the write up would endorse the dark side.
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2020, 04:18:47 PM
 Not really very accurate in explaining why car tires don't work well on a motorcycle .

 Dusty
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: ITSec on January 06, 2020, 04:50:14 PM
This topic has been discussed extensively in any number of fora, especially among Ironbutt and other long distance riding communities. While I wouldn't recommend using a car tire on most motorcycles, I personally know a number of LD riders who have used them successfully for many years, usually on larger and heavier bikes used for Ironbutt and other extended touring applications.

Clearly there are trade-offs, and opinions differ on whether the benefits outweigh any risks or problems that may be introduced. However, the variation in bikes, tire designs, and usage are so infinite and unpredictable that making absolute statements is bound to result in some tales of real-world empirical results that would contradict them.

This is perhaps the ultimate expression of "YMMV".
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2020, 04:59:45 PM
 Maybe we should leave the dark side discussion to forums dedicated to the subject , fair enough ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: PJPR01 on January 06, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
Everyone should do whatever they feel like with regards to the tires, although I would be interested to know whether in Europe, with TUV regulations, would they allow a car tire on a motorcycle, and since regulations in several European countries actually require snow tires on cars, does that mean you need to run a snow car tire if you are a Darksider?

Clearly in the US, they don't seem to mind terribly.

However, I do have a question...why do Darksiders ONLY run a car tire on the rear and not the front also, i mean if you want good wear and tear, why not both wheels?

If you're going to ride predominantly in an area with no twisties or mostly highway miles, it would seem to make sense to put car tires on both front and rear.

 :popcorn: :popcorn:

Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: PhilB on January 06, 2020, 06:30:16 PM
Everyone should do whatever they feel like with regards to the tires, although I would be interested to know whether in Europe, with TUV regulations, would they allow a car tire on a motorcycle, and since regulations in several European countries actually require snow tires on cars, does that mean you need to run a snow car tire if you are a Darksider? ...
There are at least a couple of companies in Europe that make snow tires for motorcycles.
https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/products/anlas-winter-traction-snow-tires/
https://www.heidenautires.com/tires/motorcycle/snow/

PhilB
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: PhilB on January 06, 2020, 06:32:27 PM
Maybe we should leave the dark side discussion to forums dedicated to the subject , fair enough ?

 Dusty
I think this is a good suggestion.

PhilB
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: Motormike on January 06, 2020, 06:35:36 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.  Several years ago I took a "Total Control" advanced course.  All types of bikes enrolled.  Three Gold Wings, one of which was running a car tire   The Gold Wing rider ran the cones and all the maneuvers as well as the other touring bikes.  He could scrape his pegs just like the ones with motorcycle tires.  It was a real "eye opener" for me as well as the instructor.  The instructor just shrugged and said, "it's not slowing him down any." If I lived in the midwest and owned a heavy touring bike, I'd have to give it serious consideration. Seeing is believing.
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: JJ on January 06, 2020, 06:54:41 PM
I think this is a good suggestion.

PhilB

Agree 100% - - This is a "No-Win" discussion... :laugh: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2020, 07:01:44 PM
 There is a reason my account is lit up in blue , and it isn't because I am handsome .

 Dusty
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: rocker59 on January 06, 2020, 07:27:37 PM
 :boxing:
Maybe we should leave the dark side discussion to forums dedicated to the subject , fair enough ?

 Dusty


Good idea, Dusty.

This subject rates right up there with religion.   In fact, Dark Side may qualify as religion.


Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: PJPR01 on January 06, 2020, 07:39:57 PM
It's an interesting topic, no reason it can't be discussed from an experience perspective.

I'm still  curious why only the rear tire and not both if handling is willing to be compromised but wear is the predominant desired metric.
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: oldbike54 on January 06, 2020, 07:47:38 PM
It's an interesting topic, no reason it can't be discussed from an experience perspective.

I'm still  curious why only the rear tire and not both if handling is willing to be compromised but wear is the predominant desired metric.

 Oh there are a myriad of reasons , and I hear every one of them .

 Dusty
Title: Re: The dark side info
Post by: Two Checks on January 07, 2020, 06:37:24 AM
Okay....dino or synthetic?