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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: SmithSwede on January 24, 2020, 11:49:03 AM
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Looking for any recommendations for a rain jacket for long trips in rain. I remember somebody recommending fisherman grade foul weather gear, but not the specifics.
The issue is my gloves. I wear rubber mitts over the gloves which works for about an hour. But eventually the water drains down my sleeve and into the inside of the glove.
I think what I want is a rain jacket with an extra long sleeve, with the sleeve having a large opening that can later be cinched down with Velcro or something. Then I could easily put the bulky gloves/cover inside the sleeve so the water can’t drain inside the glove. With my current gear it is too hard to get a bulky winter glove up inside the rain jacket.
But most rain jackets seem cut short in the sleeve, and/or have an elastic closure on the end.
Any recommendations welcome. I’m dry and happy everywhere else, even in a day long rain. It’s the wet glove problem I’m trying to solve.
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yeah, i'd actually like to know the answer to this one too. (insert popcorn eating emothing here.)
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Try the "Rain-Off" overgloves out of New Zealand. Comes in a mitten flavour & a three fingered flavour, with elastic cord at the sleeve end. They work, although you do have to take care that the elastic cords grip the sleeve of the jacket properly, to prevent water running down the inside. Has been copied by a couple of other manufacturers, Aerostich and, I seem to remembers, at least another bug name, and at twice the price. My pair have seen sterling service.
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Right-o Malik. I have the Rain Off rubber mitts and really like them.
But in a heavy rain, the water eventually drains into my gloves no matter how tight I cinch the Rain Off to the outside of the sleeve of the rain jacket.
The obvious solution would be to have the Rain Off mitts inside the sleeve of the rain suit. I can manage to do that in warmer weather wearing lighter gloves and little clothing under my Aerostich. But when layered up for winter, wearing bulky glove plus the Rain Off mitts, there’s no practical way to get the gloves inside the sleeve.
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Keep the gloves outside the sleeve. Install "Ape Hanger" bars so that your hands are now shoulder high. Can't drain into your gloves like that.
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Patrick Hayes
Fremont CA
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Make sure you tuck your gloves inside you jacket sleeve and not on the on the outside.
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Rain will always get into Gloves, no matter what.
Gloves over Sleeves, water runs down into them.
Gloves inside Sleeves, water gets blown up inside sleeves, then drains down into Gloves.
Water will also creep along sleeve liners.
Personally, I don't see the issue, it's only water after all.
Carry a spare pair or two if it really bothers you. :thumb:
If cold is an issue, heated inners, or heated Gloves are great.
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I'm turning into a fair weather rider in my old age, but when I do happen to get caught in a monsoon to the point that water is dripping down my sleeve, I don't find anything works other than wind protection.
I miss the weather protection of the full fairings I used to have on my touring bikes, but have really come to appreciate how effective a simple pair of "Bark Busters" or similar hand guards can be when the weather turns nasty.
I may be soaking wet, but if I can keep the cold rainy wind off my hands, it helps a lot. ymmv
Kelly
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I have a pair of simple silicone cuffs, U shaped in cross section and U is probably about 2"-3" deep, down in the shop. They slip on over your hand with the U oriented either towards your hand or towards your shoulder. Think I got them at a horse tack shop. They are designed to use when washing a horse and reaching up. If worn with U opening towards hand, soap & water is less prone to running down your arm and soaking your body. Maybe guys don't care, but a woman might be less interested in having a soaked shirt.
I got them to use when I occasionally polish stone, especially when working in cold weather like right now. Pretty normal for all that water to run into the sleeve of my raincoat along your arm past the rubber apron and end up filling your boots. they do keep most if not all of the water out of your gloves or sleeves/shirt/pants/boots, depending upon which way they're worn. Not as complicated or expensive as scuba-type methods and very good to compliment well-fitted cuffs.
Haven't been able to find them online to post a link but will keep looking.
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I have and still do use the over mitts.
I find them fantastic and have used them in atrocious conditions day after day, especially in Northern Europe..
To be fair though, I think the Norge fairing contributes to the overall efficacy of the setup. I’ve yet to see how they go on the V85.
I have not had an issue with the rain getting down my sleeve, but my mate has on his R1100S in identical conditions on the same day.
Again, the Norge fairing helps.
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Try the "Rain-Off" overgloves out of New Zealand. Comes in a mitten flavour & a three fingered flavour, with elastic cord at the sleeve end. They work, although you do have to take care that the elastic cords grip the sleeve of the jacket properly, to prevent water running down the inside. Has been copied by a couple of other manufacturers, Aerostich and, I seem to remembers, at least another bug name, and at twice the price. My pair have seen sterling service.
I've used a pair these for 10 years now. Very effective! You do need to keep the sleeve cords tight but I have never had any seepage in that area. My riding over this time has been on my MV Agusta F4 on which the fairing provides minimal hand/arm/upper body protection.
A hack I thought of a few years ago...if you get caught in heavy rain with boots that are not waterproof and you forgot to bring or buy overboots, buy a roll of food wrap. Wrap your foot before putting the boot on or wrap the boot depending on how wet the boot is. If wrapping the boot use multiple layers and keep it tight. It works better than plastic bags which tend to flap unless you tape them extensively.
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Problem with rubber or latex is no breathability. Like wearing a yellow PVC rain suit. Your soaked from the inside out not the outside in.
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I know what the OP is talking about. I wear my leather jacket. Then my riding gloves outside the sleeves. Then some goretex over mitts I got from an army surplus place. These have a pull cord to sinch them up tight well above the cuffs of the leather gloves. My long-suffering Mrs has picked all the elastic out of the cuffs of my waterproof over-jacket and replaced it with a sort of elastic and velcro wrap around strap to tighten the cuffs. Now I can finally have my jacket sleeves tight on the outside of the over mitts.
It does rain a bit here in Wales.
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Problem with rubber or latex is no breathability. Like wearing a yellow PVC rain suit. Your soaked from the inside out not the outside in.
They are made of a PVC coated fabric so don't sweat in the way you are thinking.
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My Triumph gauntlet with Sympatex have a zipper on the cuff completely waterproof. I bought them in 2003 doubt they are still available. M9037402
Frogg Togg jacket with a hood for under my modular bucket, Frogg Togg pants, and FT over boots. For all day rain riding I wear a River Road 3/4 length jacket with a waterproof inner liner over my FT jacket. Alpinestar has good long gauntlet products and might check with Bass All Pro shop hunting and snowmobile stuff
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I have found that keeping hands dry is a fools errand w/o something like "Hippo Hands" which work well when it's genuinely cold out.
For warmer weather I take a note from my scuba diving days and instead of staying dry - stay warm. I use neoprene fishing gloves. Your hands aren't technically 'dry', but they don't feel wet and stay warm enough.
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What a coincidence, I just ordered a pair of waterproof insulated motorcycle gloves today. The brand was SLB ordered from amazon and the price was 9.99 with no shipping cost due to wife having amazon prime.
Update:
I received these gloves a couple days ago. For 10 bucks you want beat these neoprene waterproof gloves. They probably won’t be real warm at really cold temps but in moderate cold temps they would also serve the purpose.
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When I lived in Michigan (and was much younger and a little stupider) I went 2 entire years with no car. I used cross-country ski gloves when it was cold and wet. Gore-Tex for the win. Premium CC gloves are tough enough to ride it without disintegrating. As for securing the wrist, the ones I had used a velcro strap and had half-length gauntlets to keep snow out. Worked awesome. ly. whatever.
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Yor gloves aren't the problem, your jacket is. Rukka bring lots of money have two cuffs ones for inside your glove and the other for outside. There may be other companies that do this, I haven't come across them.
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Murray: bingo, thanks. I think that’s what I want.
Do you know the specific Rukka jacket that has this feature?
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:popcorn:
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My HELD Gore Grip gloves fit under the sleeve well. I've no issues keeping my hands dry. I don't see how one could have success with the cuffs on the outside. And it ALWAYS rains the 400 miles home from New England.
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Does anyone produce a waterproof jacket that has the gloves integral with the sleeve ?
As in, when you take the jacket off, the gloves are one piece with the garment.
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The problem with wet gloves is the water evaporating of them makes them very cold.
Faced with an 8 hour ride in the rain I went into Subway and scrounged a couple of pairs of their large disposable gloves which I slipped over my leather ones.
This stopped the water evaporating and so they warmed up but stayed wet of course.
I did the same with my boots, just slipped them into plastic bags, looked the pits but nice and warm.
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When I was sailboat racing, we wore pull over "Gill" spray shirts that had neoprene/rubber on the sleeve cuffs, neck and waist with Velcro tightening straps. These were designed to go over a PFD and did a good job of keeping water out even in firehose conditions on sport boats.
I've worn my old one on very wet dirt (really mud) bike rides and stayed dry. :grin:
If tightened up on the out side of the gauntlets it would keep the water out.
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Heeled over at max hull speed is a such a rush, is it not?
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I use the Aerostich Triple Digit covers, but that is only part of my system. I also treat my riding gloves with a light spritz of Scotchguard and then rub Mink Oil into the backs. This makes the gloves waterproof for a while; until you can put on the rain covers, but also continues to keep your hands dry should the odd trickle get through. In the bargain, the rain covers buy me about 8 degrees additional comfort when the weather gets cold.
https://www.aerostich.com/clothing/gloves/rain-glove-covers/aerostich-triple-digit-covers.html
A shorter version is also available.
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I use the Aerostich Triple Digit covers, but that is only part of my system. I also treat my riding gloves with a light spritz of Scotchguard and then rub Mink Oil into the backs. This makes the gloves waterproof for a while; until you can put on the rain covers, but also continues to keep your hands dry should the odd trickle get through. In the bargain, the rain covers buy me about 8 degrees additional comfort when the weather gets cold.
https://www.aerostich.com/clothing/gloves/rain-glove-covers/aerostich-triple-digit-covers.html
A shorter version is also available.
Yep,I’ve had good luck with those. :thumb:
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Looking for any recommendations for a rain jacket for long trips in rain. I remember somebody recommending fisherman grade foul weather gear, but not the specifics.
The issue is my gloves. I wear rubber mitts over the gloves which works for about an hour. But eventually the water drains down my sleeve and into the inside of the glove.
I think what I want is a rain jacket with an extra long sleeve, with the sleeve having a large opening that can later be cinched down with Velcro or something. Then I could easily put the bulky gloves/cover inside the sleeve so the water can’t drain inside the glove. With my current gear it is too hard to get a bulky winter glove up inside the rain jacket.
But most rain jackets seem cut short in the sleeve, and/or have an elastic closure on the end.
Any recommendations welcome. I’m dry and happy everywhere else, even in a day long rain. It’s the wet glove problem I’m trying to solve.
I have Alpinestars Jet Gore-tex gloves. I have a motoport rain jacket. They custom make it to you specifications. Mine is Hi-Viz except for the collar, pocket and zipper flaps.
https://www.motoport.com/product/aero-tex-rain-jacket/ It is waterproof, breathable, and packs up small.
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Any waterproof gear should, IMO, be tested prior to use. Bucket test for gloves and boots. Shower/hose for apparel. better to find out when you don't need it than............... ...............
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If you ride a motorcycle, eventually you are gonna get wet.
I gave up attempting to keep my hands dry about 45 years ago - and went with keeping them warm instead. Grip heaters are wonderful. Gloves will dry.
My feet are protected by a pair of good quality leather hiking boots, which I waterproof regularly. In a protracted downpour I wear a pair of Belstaff gaiters. They cover the boot from heel to toe, leaving the sole of the boot exposed, and extend up the leg to just below the knee. They are elastisized at the top and fasten with a Velcro strip up the inside of the leg. Remember to put them on BEFORE the rain pants.
For rain pants, I bought a good quality pair of gore-tex hiking over pants. They are waterproof and they breathe. They have a full length zipper on the outside of both legs.
I bought an Olympia rain jacket last summer - but it hasn't been tested by anything heavier than a short but intense shower yet. So far, so good. It has a hood that rolls up in the collar. It doesn't stop raining when you get to your destination - at least it never did for me - and the hood helps to keep your head dry.
Whatever you end up with - go large with the sizing. You're not making a fashion statement - you just want to stay warm and reasonably dry.
Also, an effort should be made to make your raingear easy to put on. You're prolly gonna be stopped on the side of the road in a downpour struggling put it on.
And you just know that as soon as you are all buttoned up, you'll have to pee.
Cheers!
G
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Take the truck.
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I have a few basic approaches to keeping my hands dry when riding in wet weather.
1. Don't ride in the rain :-)
2. Multiple sets of gloves.
3. Thin latex gloves under my riding gloves. This is especially helpful when your gloves haven't dried out overnight on multiple day rides and fit easier under any glove in winter or summer riding. I also have a set of glove liners called sealskins. (Have socks too) These are great, have a microfiber lining, and are completely waterproof. They can get a bit warm in the summer but are completely waterproof. I've had both the gloves and socks for at least 8 years.
I've tried over the years to use waterproof gloves, but if you're in multiple days of pouring rain nothing will keep your gloves dry. This is the primary reason why I went for an inter liner.
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I've only been looking for the same cure for 57 years. I think I've found it now. Motel, big glass of single malt in one hand and a good cigar in the other. at that point you DGAF!
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I have a few basic approaches to keeping my hands dry when riding in wet weather.
1. Don't ride in the rain :-)
2. Multiple sets of gloves.
3. Thin latex gloves under my riding gloves. This is especially helpful when your gloves haven't dried out overnight on multiple day rides and fit easier under any glove in winter or summer riding. I also have a set of glove liners called sealskins. (Have socks too) These are great, have a microfiber lining, and are completely waterproof. They can get a bit warm in the summer but are completely waterproof. I've had both the gloves and socks for at least 8 years.
I've tried over the years to use waterproof gloves, but if you're in multiple days of pouring rain nothing will keep your gloves dry. This is the primary reason why I went for an inter liner.
I have ridden for days in the rain with my Gore-Tex gloves and stayed dry. Nothing compares to certified Gore-Tex products IMO.