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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: James.S on February 10, 2020, 04:18:57 AM
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I had them fitted to my bike at the dealer and I'm really disappointed with them. Even on the hottest setting they are only warm ish and there is no point in using setting 1 or 2. Has anyone else had the same problem? I've read of people saying they were great so I don't understand it. i have a cheap set of Oxford Hot grips on my KLE 500 and they get Hot. be grateful for any input. Thank you.
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Hi James, 2-10-20
Sorry to hear about the disappointing result with your grips. Can you tell me the item/catalogue # of the "warm ish" grips? I'm looking for a set myself and don't want to be unhappy with them.
Thanks, Doug G
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I installed Oxford heated grips and just changed the connectors to go directly to the V85 harness. Mine work great. So, I'd double check the connections at the front of the tank next to the frame. If then connectors are well seated, then I'd guess there's a problem with the grips themselves and would take it back to the dealer.
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Doug. I don't know the part numer but they are the Genuine Guzzi ones ordered and fitted my the Main Dealer.
If the demo bike had had them fitted and I could've tried them first I wouldn't have bothered with them.
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NW. Thanks mate I will check the connections, I read somewhere else that someone had done the same as you. Could be the way to go after I've gone through the dealer route first.
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I installed Oxford heated grips and just changed the connectors to go directly to the V85 harness. Mine work great. So, I'd double check the connections at the front of the tank next to the frame. If then connectors are well seated, then I'd guess there's a problem with the grips themselves and would take it back to the dealer.
how many settings compared to the normal I think 5 on oxfords. my only gripe on them is they need 1 setting lower.
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Vagrant. There's 3 settings on the Guzzi ones.
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I installed Oxford heated grips and just changed the connectors to go directly to the V85 harness. Mine work great. So, I'd double check the connections at the front of the tank next to the frame. If then connectors are well seated, then I'd guess there's a problem with the grips themselves and would take it back to the dealer.
NWrider, could you share which Oxford heated grips you installed, as I see Oxford offers different variations; Adventure, Sport, Touring, and Retro.The grip length being different between them, as well as the grip pattern.
Thanks!!
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After some research I'm leaning towards the Oxford Premium Touring Heated Grips, as the length is virtually the same as the factory V85 grips;
Touring Grips = Standard length: 4.72"
Factory V85 grips = Measured length: 4.70" (120mm)
Just for reference;
Adventure Grips = Standard length: 5.19"
Sport Grips = Standard length: 4.84"
Oxford states that all the grips can be trimmed a small amount if necessary, but I'd rather avoid that.
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I used Oxford OF691 Premium Touring heated grips. These were integrated into the V85 controller, i.e. I didn't use the Oxford one.
Worked out just fine!
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Kiwi Dave. What did you do with the connections, did you have to cut wires?
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I used Oxford OF691 Premium Touring heated grips. These were integrated into the V85 controller, i.e. I didn't use the Oxford one.
Worked out just fine!
Excellent!! Thanks!!
There are comments, either here or over on ADVRider, about changing out the connectors on the Oxford wiring loom to allow plugging directly into the V85 factory heated grip circuit. So it sounds like the wires will need to be cut on the Oxford side, but I don't recall it being too fiddly a job, just need to locate connectors that mate to the V85 loom and have crimping skills. Confirmation of that by those that have done this would be great though!
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https://www.denniskirk.com/kimpex/handlebar-grip-heater-kit-12-170.p3931.prd/3931.sku
here is another option and they are available under a lot of brand names and prices this is just an example. I have used probably 8-10 sets on bikes over the years and no reason you couldn't wire them right up to the Guzzi's wiring harness. I know Wayne Orwig did on his Stelvio.
now his tip was to take the paper thin styrofoam from an egg carton and glue it on the left H bar to insulate it so it heats up identically to the throttle pipe side. then buy 2 sets of your grip of choice so you have two large inside diameters. big advantage here is you pick the grips jell, foam, tapered etc. they work great. the ones on my EV have been on since 2007.
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Thanks for the reply James.
Can anyone tell me how to remove the original factory grips without destroying anything? I actually have a 2017 Cali 1400 ride by wire.
Any help is appreciated.
Be well,
DougG
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Compressed air with a small diameter nozzle that you can slip under the edge of the grip. Mine came off easily that way.
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Thanks, NW. May I assume that there is no adhesive from the factory?
Be well,
DougG
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Kiwi Dave. What did you do with the connections, did you have to cut wires?
There's a triangular cover on the RHS under the tank where the wiring is ready for the heated grips. Just slip the tank back a little to get access to the rearmost screw. I made up short adapting wires that hid under this triangle cover, and sealed the wiring loom end with heat shrink to make it permanent. If necessary, I can disconnect the heated grips where the Oxfords plug at to the adapters. No wires in the loom were cut.
Note that the Oxford controller is not required, the heated grips icon will appear in the dashboard, and controlled by the heated grips button already present on the left handlebar.
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Kiwi Dave. Thanks for that info mate.
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For what it's worth, I experience the same issue of lackluster performance with the factory heated grips on my Stelvio (as have others). I now have a set of Oxfords that I am connecting into the stock wiring, and while I haven't tried them on the road yet, they have worked very well in testing.
Cheers,
Shaun
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Thank Shaun. from responses I've seen on here and other forums it looks like more people have negative experiences with the Guzzi grips the positive ones. It still makes no sense to me tho, surely they should all be the same and considering the dealer price they should work perfectly.
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Same problem here. Installed myself, didn't have the throttle "calibrated" but everything works, however the grips don't get real warm. I do like the throttle as it seems to have a lighter spring and seems easier to twist. When it's real cold I use heated gloves plugged into a heated jacket liner, heats the top of the hands not just the palms.
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Okay, I've been convinced that the factory heated grips are a disappointment from a functional standpoint, and certainly not worth the cost. But I enjoy a good heated grip, and want to take advantage of the technology offered by the V85TT dash and available wiring. I've acquired a set of Oxford Premium Touring Heated Grips for installation.
Since I haven't found this elsewhere, and this isn't a totally straightforward install, I'm going to document briefly how I installed mine.
(https://i.ibb.co/y6nN6M4/0-D1-DBA93-B2-C1-4145-9-DCB-ED712-B3-B5-AA5-1-105-c.jpg) (https://ibb.co/y6nN6M4)
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Here’s my reason for choosing the Touring Grips Model. The length is the same, and no trimming required.
(https://i.ibb.co/HFCscmx/C8-A48-B24-3869-42-B7-BDA8-874-E86317-A59.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HFCscmx)
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You’ll need to move the fuel tank out of the way to gain access to the factory heated grip loom and connectors, which involves removing 3 bolts as shown, 1 at the rear of the tank and 2 that are located at the front under the plastic cover that is around and over the ignition switch, a couple of 4mm hex screws hold the cover.
(https://i.ibb.co/7VBRqj5/F5-A1-F3-D0-F657-4-E57-8013-8-E1-F5-E8-AEEE5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7VBRqj5)
(https://i.ibb.co/HX674kV/5-E956-A89-B771-478-C-9732-A757-DC037055.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HX674kV)
(https://i.ibb.co/Rv1pH4w/3-AB8-F77-A-4168-4920-AF83-5707-D695-B0-CD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Rv1pH4w)
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Lift the tank just enough to get it out of the way, you can do this without disconnecting any fuel or electrical connections, this will give you access to the cover where the heated grip connectors live. Here’s where you will run into the only snag in using the Oxford Heated Grips, the connectors do not match. You’ll have to come up with something to solve this, there are several options, my choice is to make a pair of short jumper harnesses with matching connectors on both ends. Since the Oxford controller won’t be used, I’m going to harvest the matching Oxford connectors and a length of wire from each, which means cutting the wires from the controller. I’m good with this, you may not be, like I said, personal preference here.
I'm waiting on the Molex style connectors that match the V85TT connectors, so it will be a few days before I can complete the jumper harnesses.
(https://i.ibb.co/VY9fT6X/776157-CF-73-C1-4080-8978-EC5-CEBE93-F65.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VY9fT6X)
(https://i.ibb.co/PFGb3RD/78344243-0-DE3-47-DB-AC75-151-A256-E8530.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PFGb3RD)
(https://i.ibb.co/yNd6gSj/3589315-B-CC19-4566-8-E58-C9-B845363-E67.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yNd6gSj)
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Molex connectors have arrived! Time to finish the jumper harnesses.
(https://i.ibb.co/QYB1pmL/ACA4-CD42-3-EBD-42-E1-B3-E0-BB0-A0-F7-AB899.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QYB1pmL)
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Where did you buy the Molex connectors? I'm picking up my V85TT tomorrow and cant wait to start modding it and this will be one of the first mods I do.
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Harnesses complete
(https://i.ibb.co/mNvfYxn/AE978355-C182-4897-B1-E6-C2-EC843135-A4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mNvfYxn)
And installed
(https://i.ibb.co/MV9C7D7/D0699448-CD39-4-BB6-8-CC3-086-DB88968-D2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MV9C7D7)
Toasty hands!
(https://i.ibb.co/vzBqFMK/49-EC04-F5-3-C16-4-D64-9-FDC-53-B48-D9-F5-F6-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vzBqFMK)
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Where did you buy the Molex connectors? I'm picking up my V85TT tomorrow and cant wait to start modding it and this will be one of the first mods I do.
I got mine from Amazon. 6.8mm, pack of 6, and congratulations on the new V85TT!!
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Thank you, my first ever Guzzi! Do you have any pictures of the grips installed on the bike? I have installed the oxford heated grips on other bikes but never integrated into the stock harness.
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Thank you, my first ever Guzzi! Do you have any pictures of the grips installed on the bike? I have installed the oxford heated grips on other bikes but never integrated into the stock harness.
You’ll want to unscrew these plugs from the ends of the bars to make it easier to slide the grips on
(https://i.ibb.co/8cbqyBF/622-A035-F-0-EF3-4-D06-A757-FECA4943019-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8cbqyBF)
I installed them oriented the way Oxford recommends, but the levers, when fully pulled in, do touch the rubber boot where the wires enter the grip when installed this way. Easy enough to rotate them and re-glue though.
(https://i.ibb.co/1dqnnZN/F06351-FC-1-A4-A-49-DE-96-B1-07-D613692482.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1dqnnZN)
(https://i.ibb.co/QvDsHPw/EAEB3-B81-2-A29-4-B78-BF01-FC79-EA4-A7-A45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QvDsHPw)
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Thank you!, great step-by-step write up and a great alternative to the factory heated grips. I have had good luck with the Oxford heated grips, very robust and way too hot on the hottest setting on previous bikes when using the factory heat controller. When installed with the factory harness is their a noticeable difference within the three heat settings on the TFT dash?
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Yes
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https://www.denniskirk.com/kimpex/handlebar-grip-heater-kit-12-170.p3931.prd/3931.sku
here is another option and they are available under a lot of brand names and prices this is just an example. I have used probably 8-10 sets on bikes over the years and no reason you couldn't wire them right up to the Guzzi's wiring harness. I know Wayne Orwig did on his Stelvio.
now his tip was to take the paper thin styrofoam from an egg carton and glue it on the left H bar to insulate it so it heats up identically to the throttle pipe side. then buy 2 sets of your grip of choice so you have two large inside diameters. big advantage here is you pick the grips jell, foam, tapered etc. they work great. the ones on my EV have been on since 2007.
FYI I did this last week and they work great.
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I put the OE heaters on. The install is straightforward. I was also a bit taken aback by the price. Later realized that the kit included a new potentiometer. But the main reason was that with the OE setup it has the 2000 rpm cutout and seamless dash integration. Plus a nice preinstalled switch. I really like that. I’m just not comfy cutting into the harness on an expensive new bike with a warranty. And installing a stand alone system would sideline the RPM cutout, switch and the dash.
As far as heat...nowhere near as hot as say a Harley setup. But with gloves designed for heated grips highest setting is definitely too hot. Middle, #2, is good for most weather here and into the sierras. Wearing winter gloves with heavily insulated palms they are marginal even at full blast.
But...your mileage may vary.
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Nice job on the posts fellas!! :thumb: :bow:
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I put the OE heaters on ... I’m just not comfy cutting into the harness on an expensive new bike with a warranty. And installing a stand alone system would sideline the RPM cutout, switch and the dash...
Just to be clear, the method I used to install the Oxford heated grips did not involve cutting any of the bike's harnesses, and utilizes all of the bike's factory functions.
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any grip can be plugged right into the bikes wire harness giving you the benefits of the stockers. did you go to the dealer and have to pay to reset the new system. I susspect it's the dash doesn't send enough juice to the grips and that's why they don't get hot enough not the actual grips themselves.
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Just to be clear, the method I used to install the Oxford heated grips did not involve cutting any of the bike's harnesses, and utilizes all of the bike's factory functions.
Sweet. I misread your post.
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Hi, folks.
I'm in the process of fitting Oxford grips to my V85 TT, and running into an issue on the throttle side. So, I'm reviving this thread in hopes of getting some assistance from those who have gone before. Before getting into the issue, I wanted to take a moment to thank Alpo for the excellent installation guide provided in this thread. Really well done, and very helpful!
So, to the issue: On the throttle side, the inside diameter of the Oxford grip is just over 25mm, as indicated that it should be in the Oxford manual. However, that same manual indicates that the outside diameter of the bike's throttle tube should be approximately 25.4mm, and mine seems to be about 26.5mm. As a result, there is no way that the Oxford grip will go on.
I can't imagine that my V85 throttle is any different from others, so I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered this? If so, how did you adddress it?
Looking forward to any insight!
Thanks,
Shaun
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If connected to 12 volts and on high they will swell up. Add dish soap and maybe...
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If connected to 12 volts and on high they will swell up. Add dish soap and maybe...
Thanks for the suggestion. Hadn't thought of turning the heat on, which might indeed cause some expansion.
Hoping that someone else might be able to expand upon what they found when they installed the Oxford grips. Was the throttle side a real fight, or did it go on relatively easily?
Cheers,
Shaun
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Hoping that someone else might be able to expand upon what they found when they installed the Oxford grips. Was the throttle side a real fight, or did it go on relatively easily?
Yep, it was a bit of fight to get the throttle side slid on over the Guzzi throttle tube. Nice benefit is that there's no way the grip will slip on the throttle tube once installed.
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Hi, folks.
I'm in the process of fitting Oxford grips to my V85 TT, and running into an issue on the throttle side. So, I'm reviving this thread in hopes of getting some assistance from those who have gone before. Before getting into the issue, I wanted to take a moment to thank Alpo for the excellent installation guide provided in this thread. Really well done, and very helpful!
So, to the issue: On the throttle side, the inside diameter of the Oxford grip is just over 25mm, as indicated that it should be in the Oxford manual. However, that same manual indicates that the outside diameter of the bike's throttle tube should be approximately 25.4mm, and mine seems to be about 26.5mm. As a result, there is no way that the Oxford grip will go on.
I can't imagine that my V85 throttle is any different from others, so I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered this? If so, how did you adddress it?
Looking forward to any insight!
Thanks,
Shaun
Hi Shaun,
I found the same thing- the ID of the Oxford grip (throttle side) is ~25.4 mm and the OD of the throttle tube is ~26.5ish mm. No Go! I was a little surprised myself. I used an adjustable reamer to remove a millimeter of material from the grip, taking out a very small amount at a time until it was pretty snug, but fit, and then used silicone sealant to glue it to the tube. And finally- don't push it onto the throttle too far- the L shaped piece will rub against the switch block and the throttle won't snap back.
If this turns out to be a poor course of action (see Vagrant's post), then I'll post it up here. I doubt I'll ever really get these hot enough to swell that much.
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Hi Shaun,
I found the same thing- the ID of the Oxford grip (throttle side) is ~25.4 mm and the OD of the throttle tube is ~26.5ish mm. No Go! I was a little surprised myself. I used an adjustable reamer to remove a millimeter of material from the grip, taking out a very small amount at a time until it was pretty snug, but fit, and then used silicone sealant to glue it to the tube. And finally- don't push it onto the throttle too far- the L shaped piece will rub against the switch block and the throttle won't snap back.
If this turns out to be a poor course of action (see Vagrant's post), then I'll post it up here. I doubt I'll ever really get these hot enough to swell that much.
Excellent feedback, thanks! I tried sanding the throttle side, a bit, but it was still too tight, and I actually damaged the Oxford grip by pushing too hard on it. I hadn't thought of using a reamer on the grip, but I like that idea a lot more. Better to take chances with an inexpensive grip than to risk the throttle tube assembly itself. I have a replacement Oxford grip, now, so I'll pick up the adjustable reamer and give it a go.
Cheers,
Shaun
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This is literally the only time an adjustable reamer has been useful to me. So- I don't know if it is worth purchasing one (1 1/16") as it would add 50-75% onto the price of heated grips. What does it cost to mail one? I'd be happy to loan my POS out to you.
Does anyone know if (US) USPS flat rate box count to Canada?
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This is literally the only time an adjustable reamer has been useful to me. So- I don't know if it is worth purchasing one (1 1/16") as it would add 50-75% onto the price of heated grips. What does it cost to mail one? I'd be happy to loan my POS out to you.
Does anyone know if (US) USPS flat rate box count to Canada?
Thanks again! Unfortunately, shipping from/to the US seems to have gone through roof, lately. Probably not worth it, but I don't know what the cost would be, exactly.
Let me see what I can find for pricing on a reamer, first. If it's prohibitive, then perhaps it makes sense to take advantage of your generous offer.
Much appreciated,
Shaun
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Just send me a PM if you want to, Shaun. I'm afraid this thread will get buried and I wouldn't see a reply in...a week or so.
Via USPS, looks like it would be either $25 or $50 depending on the size of the box. I'll pay shipping to you if you pay it on the way back.
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Just send me a PM if you want to, Shaun. I'm afraid this thread will get buried and I wouldn't see a reply in...a week or so.
Via USPS, looks like it would be either $25 or $50 depending on the size of the box. I'll pay shipping to you if you pay it on the way back.
Hi, JRT.
I have actually already placed an order for one, and it should be arriving this weekend. Crazy world we live in, as it will actually be cheaper and faster for me to purchase and receive a new one than for us to ship yours back and forth!
Once again, though, your generosity is so appreciated. Another example of what a wonderful community the Guzzi World is!
Cheers,
Shaun
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No problem, Shaun!
Just go slow with the adjustable reamer. If you try to take too much off, they just dig in and get off center. They are horrible, evil tools. At least you aren't aiming for a specific diameter.
It has been cold and raining here for the last three days, so I haven't even been able to go for a ride. Tomorrow or Saturday looks like nicer weather, so I'll get her out then.
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No problem, Shaun!
Just go slow with the adjustable reamer. If you try to take too much off, they just dig in and get off center. They are horrible, evil tools. At least you aren't aiming for a specific diameter.
It has been cold and raining here for the last three days, so I haven't even been able to go for a ride. Tomorrow or Saturday looks like nicer weather, so I'll get her out then.
Thanks for the advice! I'll report back once I get a chance to tackle this.
Cheers,
Shaun
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Seems the plastic cover to the right and below the steering stem can be finagled clear to get access to the factory heated grip leads without unfastening the gas tank. I used some grip heating elements I had laying around and got the molex connectors. Seems to work good for cheap.
Thanks for the good posts and pictures making it easy.
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Yes, thanks so much for this how-to, especially the pictures. We put the Oxford Touring grips on Doug's bike yesterday evening. Doug beveled the end of the throttle tube, scraped it with a razor blade and sanded the heck out of it and it was still crazy tight, even after getting good and hot. Finally figured out a trick-- we found a pipe that would just slip over the grip and butt up against the grip flange, then we tapped the end of the pipe to push the grip in place. Boy, I'm jealous of that handy control button on the switch gear, but my bike is so much prettier than Doug's I reckon I'll let him have it. :grin:
Sarah
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Many thanks to Alpo for the tutorial. Here are some notes about my installation.
I didn't have a crimper for the Molex connectors so I just used needle nosed plyers. Was it perfect? No, one connector actually came off during installation but I recrimped it and it's fine now. The cost of a Molex crimper just didn't justify the need in my opinion. I doubt if I would use it again.
Getting the throttle grip on wasn't as difficult as I'd imagined from reading this thread. I just plugged it in and turned it on and it got HOT. That with some soapy water and gently rounding the edge of the throttle tube with an emery board was enough to get it on. It didn't need any adhesive.
My biggest issue was with the left hand grip. It was bigger than the handlebar and the first attempt at gluing it did not hold. The second attempt I used most of the tube of Oxford grip glue and that seemed to do the trick. I haven't tested it on a long ride yet though.
All in all definitely a worth while upgrade. I have heated grips on my other two bikes but these are definitely the warmest.
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Ordered the Oxfords over the holiday. Hoping Alpo can check his messages as I have a follow up question on the install.
Thanks
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Thanks for the advice! I'll report back once I get a chance to tackle this.
Cheers,
Shaun
Quoting my own post as I realized that I neglected to report back.
The reamer worked as advertised, and I was finally able to open up the ID sufficiently on the throttle side to get the grip on, while still maintaining a nice, tight fit. On the clutch side, the fit was relatively loose, and I was a little concerned that the glue wouldn't hold, but it seems to be doing fine.
Again, thanks to Alpo for the great tutorial!
Cheers,
Shaun
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Excellent feedback, thanks! I tried sanding the throttle side, a bit, but it was still too tight, and I actually damaged the Oxford grip by pushing too hard on it. I hadn't thought of using a reamer on the grip, but I like that idea a lot more. Better to take chances with an inexpensive grip than to risk the throttle tube assembly itself. I have a replacement Oxford grip, now, so I'll pick up the adjustable reamer and give it a go.
Cheers,
Shaun
I installed oxfords also and heated them up with a heat gun and used hairspray to slide them on. Nice snug fit!
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Two time 2020 V85tt travel owner, the 1st one, I found the grips were warm but could have been much better
On my current 2020, they seem warmer, not sure how this can be as its the same model bike x 2.
perhaps when dealers set them up there is some luigi trick we dont know about to make the stock grips warmer.... :bike-037:
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I know this is an older thread but hoping someone may know: I'm doing the Oxford install on a 2023 V85. The wires on the bike are confusing me. I removed the triangular cover where the grip connectors are and see the connectors in the pic below. Looking at the pics of the install above, the blue/brown leads (red arrows pointing to them) are the connectors for the grips. If that's correct, what are the other 2-lead connectors (green arrows, black/brown wires)? One of them is plugged into the heated grip lead as shown in the pic and I'm pretty sure it came this way new. The black/brown wires are a bigger gauge than the blue/brown by the way. Thanks
(https://i.ibb.co/vxtZ9jr/heated-grip.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vxtZ9jr)
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Ny 2023 V85 OEM grips work well fwiw
inditx
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Ny 2023 V85 OEM grips work well fwiw
inditx
I've read the guzzi grips don't get nearly as hot as the Oxfords? Any idea on that? Maybe they 'fixed' it for the later models by sending more current?
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Not sure but I’ve never had Oxford grips, sorry.
inditx
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I've never tried Moto Guzzi heated grips, but the Oxfords I have on my KLR650 are terrific.
-Stretch
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In my experience, across multiple Guzzis, the factory heated grips are weak. I've now put Oxfords on two V85s (about to do a third), and I feel that they put out substantially more heat. They're tricky to install, though, as the ID of the hard plastic inner tube is too small to fit over the throttle tube, and must be opened up with a reamer to the correct size. Not difficult once you know how.
Some people choose to try to sand down the throttle tube, but I'd strongly recommend working on the inside of the Oxford grip instead. Much less costly in the event of an error!
Cheers,
Shaun
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I use a round file on the leading edge of the Oxford. Coat the inside with dish soap, then start the bike and put the grips on the highest heat for 4-5 minutes to expand the grip and slide on fast.
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I use a round file on the leading edge of the Oxford. Coat the inside with dish soap, then start the bike and put the grips on the highest heat for 4-5 minutes to expand the grip and slide on fast.
I've heard (from a friend) that it's not a good idea to forget that the grips are on high and walk away for about 10 min. 🙄 Apparently, from what I understand 🙄, this could result on an overheated, melted mess.
Seriously, this will quite probably work fine, but I still struggled to get the grip on. So, I tried the reamer to open the ID up just a bit (as suggested by someone else), and it worked well. The grip was still tight going on, but not stupid-tight. With grip glue applied, it slid on with force and stayed solid for many thousands of miles.
As always, there are in excess of single method of de-furring a feline.
Cheers,
Shaun
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I looked into buying a reamer - prices are all over the place. I'm waiting on the Oxford grips to arrive so I can't measure them yet. Anyways, I assume the cheap reamers work fine for this, do I need a 1 1/16" - 1 3/16" like this: https://www.amazon.com/HHIP-2006-0086-16-1-3-Adjustable-Reamer/dp/B0742NWHMM
I suppose I could go ahead and remove the stock grips and measure the throttle tube too...
Thanks
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I looked into buying a reamer - prices are all over the place. I'm waiting on the Oxford grips to arrive so I can't measure them yet. Anyways, I assume the cheap reamers work fine for this, do I need a 1 1/16" - 1 3/16" like this: https://www.amazon.com/HHIP-2006-0086-16-1-3-Adjustable-Reamer/dp/B0742NWHMM
I suppose I could go ahead and remove the stock grips and measure the throttle tube too...
Thanks
Yes, that looks like the reamer that I have. Cheap, but effective.
Cheers,
Shaun
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Just posting to keep this thread high as this is a brilliant idea.
Very effective heated grips on "2" i doubt i will ever uses "3"
2022 model v85tt has same heater wiring as the 2019 so instructions below all worked well.
I just rounded off the outside leading edge of the throttle tube and the inside leading edge of the hard plastic tube inside the oxford.
As i forced it on there was a crack from the Oxford - but they still work and there is no visible damage. The Oxford instructions mention a special "tube to cope with un-even twist grips" so i think the hard plastic tube inside the throttle grip is perforated to split and it doesn't seem to have damaged the wiring or the grip
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happy new year -
Just installed the oxfords, and went smoother with the great info from this thread. But a question:
Does the bike need to be running for the grips to get hot? I have the hot grip symbol lighting up, but after a minute or so still no heat on the grips.
I have tank off, so not going to run till I re-install. Hoping it just needs to see gen power/voltage (relay?) to actually power the grips, otherwise I have som other issue.
Molex install was slick, and the little reamer to shave 0.5mm from the throttle side all worked brilliant.
Or maybe reverse polarity. I can check that i guess when i finish typing. i was lazy and just mirrored the orientation from earlier posted pics (red to blue wires), but i can ring that out…
cheers
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well, my own answer: yes, the bike needs to be running for the grips to work. in case that comes up for someone else.
yes, i can be lazy, but the reason here was that my other hot grips on other bikes will work on battery power only (which presents certain issues of course), so I assumed/hoped these would, because I preferred to leave the tank off in case i needed to re-access the wiring. but they didn’t work so went ahead and reinstalled tank, fired her up (with new exhaust and other mods…), and voila, hot grips. There, my excuses, but all good now!
cheers
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Glad to hear that the grips are working.
The primary focus is usually on the fact that the Oxford grips put out more heat than the factory items, which they do, but I think that other attributes are more important. The softer rubber, coupled with the flexible grip design, improves comfort and vibration damping, with the welcome side-effect of providing increased friction with hands/gloves. This reduces the strain caused by the stiff throttle spring. That's a win-win-win, in my book!
Cheers,
Shaun
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How did you wire them. I wired mine directly to the battery, this way they will shut themselves off after a few minutes after the bike is shut off. I think if voltage drops below something like 13 volts they know the bike is no longer running and they will drain the battery. Maybe with the bike not running they won't even come on. If wired into the harness, I don't know. Probably the same kind of thing.
kk
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How did you wire them. I wired mine directly to the battery, this way they will shut themselves off after a few minutes after the bike is shut off. I think if voltage drops below something like 13 volts they know the bike is no longer running and they will drain the battery. Maybe with the bike not running they won't even come on. If wired into the harness, I don't know. Probably the same kind of thing.
kk
If wired directly into the factory harness, the original switch works perfectly, and the grips will shut off when the bike is turned off. The indicator on the dash also works normally. Just install the recommended Molex connectors on the Oxford grips, and the bike can be left completely stock. See Alpo's posts on page 1 for a tutorial.
Happy New Year!
Cheers,
Shaun
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I wired to the factory molex connectors… slick.
Factory switch and dash indication all works normal, as everyone who has these will know. But when key switched on, and bike not started, switch will turn on the grips as indicated on dash, but no actual heat to grips till bike is running. at least on mine… and i’d assume our bikes will all be the same if wired to the factory connectors.
Haven’t bothered to try what happens when bike is switched off but key/battery is still on.
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I wired to the factory molex connectors… slick.
Factory switch and dash indication all works normal, as everyone who has these will know. But when key switched on, and bike not started, switch will turn on the grips as indicated on dash, but no actual heat to grips till bike is running. at least on mine… and i’d assume our bikes will all be the same if wired to the factory connectors.
Haven’t bothered to try what happens when bike is switched off but key/battery is still on.
That is by design, as I understand it. I've actually heard (but not confirmed) that power to the grips is shut off when the engine revs are below a certain number. However, it seems to me that it would make more sense for the ECU to monitor charging voltage, and only allow the grips to work when it exceeds 12V. Regardless, I appreciate the fact that they have a mechanism in place to prevent unintended battery discharge when the grips are on.
Cheers,
Shaun
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2000 RPM.
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