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Title: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 02, 2020, 08:05:48 AM
A few weeks ago, the tank on the G5 took a tumble (long story) off saw horses and landed on it's top, exploding the NLA plastic gas cap assembly. Fortunately, Mark at MGC sent me one that was missing the lock assembly and had a broken pin. Austin printed one for me.. unfortunately, when he was trying it out for fit he didn't notice the epoxy that hadn't cured on the repair I'd made.  :rolleyes: Nice work, though..
(https://static.imgzeit.com/reduced/0e321926315432c8/IMG_20200401_152342622.jpg)
Since he had to use up some of the red, he printed an alternator cover for his.. it's a little gaudy..  :shocked:  :grin: but beautifully done.
(https://static.imgzeit.com/reduced/b888fbce3fbec483/IMG_20200401_152607434.jpg)
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: RinkRat II on April 02, 2020, 11:09:56 AM

       Cool Beans Chuck! Ain't technology grand. What sort of investment does it take to be able to do what Austin is doing?
     
            Paul B :boozing:
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 02, 2020, 11:25:43 AM
The biggest investment by far.. is time. Drawing in 3D is not for the faint of heart. I can't do it..
As far as the machine goes.. it can't be too much. Austin isn't exactly rolling in dough.  :smiley: I well remember the day when I couldn't afford to buy a screwdriver that I needed..
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: dustybarn on April 02, 2020, 11:56:57 AM
 :thumb: Dang, the alternator cover looks nice. It takes some decent CAD skills to duplicate a component like that. I printed a keychain and a throttle palmrest for my Ambo.  -
(https://i.ibb.co/5BhD99b/IMG-20200402-123933385.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BhD99b)

(https://i.ibb.co/gm7f4sF/IMG-20200402-122400466.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gm7f4sF)


To do the two colors on the keychain I had to switch from red to gold filament at the appropriate layer.

The investment is pretty small. I don't know what printer he's using, but I have a Creality Ender 3, and they can be found for under $200 USD sometimes. It has a print area of about a 220mm cube. I've been printing all kinds of nonsense; I've even developed the capability to scan people and print them in miniature.

Is that alternator cover made of PLA? I'd be wary of it in any high-temperature application.
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: ajpjive on April 02, 2020, 01:24:55 PM
Any chance he’d be willing to share the files for the alternator cover? That looks great!
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 03, 2020, 06:42:14 AM
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Is that alternator cover made of PLA? I'd be wary of it in any high-temperature application.

I have no idea what it's made of.. but he's aware of heat issues.

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Any chance he’d be willing to share the files for the alternator cover? That looks great!

I wouldn't if I were him. There is a fair amount intellectual property involved in drawing something like that, and the boy's trying to make a living.  It's not like you can just go to the thingaverse and download a file.  :smiley:

Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Groover on April 03, 2020, 09:22:12 AM
I'd use caution, or maybe be very specific if asking Austin to print a few pages out of the service manual now..  :grin:
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: John A on April 03, 2020, 10:18:50 AM
I'd use caution, or maybe be very specific if asking Austin to print a few pages out of the service manual now..  :grin:



  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Xlratr on April 03, 2020, 11:13:01 AM
That alternator cover is very cool!!
It would look even better next to some red fork gaiters!  :boozing:
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on April 03, 2020, 11:26:44 AM
I wouldn't if I were him. There is a fair amount intellectual property involved in drawing something like that, and the boy's trying to make a living.  It's not like you can just go to the thingaverse and download a file.  :smiley:
Thats right, he could be selling those and make some money just like the guy in Aussie who sells the little keychain oil filler wrenches.
https://www.blackbantam.com
Or at least sell the file on the understanding that its not to be copied.
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 03, 2020, 11:33:53 AM
That alternator cover is very cool!!
It would look even better next to some red fork gaiters!  :boozing:

Lucky Phil would blow out the main vein.  :grin:  :boozing:
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: huub on April 03, 2020, 01:13:31 PM
I've been looking at getting lario/le  mans 1000 indicator lenses 3d printer.
So far havent been able to find somebody who can do the design.
After that the rest is easy, buy a reel of orange pet wire and have it printed....
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: LesP on April 04, 2020, 06:33:41 AM
I've been looking at getting lario/le  mans 1000 indicator lenses 3d printer.
So far havent been able to find somebody who can do the design.
After that the rest is easy, buy a reel of orange pet wire and have it printed....

I will unpack and set up my 3D scanner next week and see what it makes of a Lucas lens.
I did not know there was product to do that (semi transparent)
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: flower_king001 on April 05, 2020, 07:57:39 AM
I work for for this company:

https://www.3dsystems.com/
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: rutgery on April 29, 2020, 02:51:26 AM
I guess I've got some extra parts to add to this discussion. I'm relatively new to 3D printing parts as I've bought the printer (a cheap Ender 3 pro) only 2 months ago. It's really amazing what you can do with it.

For my V7 sport replica I've put a regular V7 Sport/750S tank on a newer Tonti frame (cali 3) which has a higher headstock. Because of this, the mounting holes for the rubbers that normally hold the front of the tank are too high to fit the tank with. To fix this, I didn't want to modify the tank and I've used some scrap rubbers for about a year before finally printing the correct rubbers. These are made from TPU with a 10% infill to have the ''rubbers'' soft enough to dampen vibrations.

(https://i.ibb.co/sH2b84p/QIDF3911.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sH2b84p)


I used the same material to print some G5 dashboard plugs that are no longer sold. The printing bed from the Ender even has a similar texture as the dashboard making the plugs seem very original. Getting the press fit tolerance on these items required a few test runs, but even that is almost no effort.

(https://i.ibb.co/jHf0Z3v/IMG-9585.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jHf0Z3v)

(https://i.ibb.co/K74mYnT/IMG-9604.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K74mYnT)


The last item was a bit more work. To fit my gauges to the V7 Sport replica I've used a modified dashboard from a V50.  The mounting to the triple tree was done using two 2mm stainless pieces as the original dashboard plasic casting didn't fit a 40mm front end. Later the casting was modified again to fit a vega RPM dial on the left and a Veglia (ducati 900ss) dial on the right. This weakened the dash and coupled with the poor mounting the dashboard had noticable flex and would move when driving over bumps. To fix this, a new dashboard was designed specifically to fit these Vega and Veglia dials and mount them sturdily on the existing holes of a 40mm triple tree. The printing time was 12 hours and 30 minutes, but totally worth it. Note that the dash was printed with white filament and later painted black, using black filament would've looked nicer on the inside of the dash. But as you cannot see it when everything's installed, I didn't bother ordering new filament for this.

(https://i.ibb.co/gMk1nRY/IMG-9632.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gMk1nRY)


(https://i.ibb.co/dgC41Js/IMG-9631.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dgC41Js)


(https://i.ibb.co/0qpBdQL/IMG-9638.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0qpBdQL)






Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 29, 2020, 06:04:04 AM
 :thumb: Nice work..
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: s1120 on April 29, 2020, 07:21:38 AM
Love that alt cover!!  Ill have to send that idea over to my nephew and have him whip one up for me!!  The red would go great with the red stripe on my tank.
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Groover on April 29, 2020, 09:23:35 AM
For my V7 sport replica I've put a regular V7 Sport/750S tank on a newer Tonti frame (cali 3) which has a higher headstock. Because of this, the mounting holes for the rubbers that normally hold the front of the tank are too high to fit the tank with. To fix this, I didn't want to modify the tank and I've used some scrap rubbers for about a year before finally printing the correct rubbers. These are made from TPU with a 10% infill to have the ''rubbers'' soft enough to dampen vibrations.

(https://i.ibb.co/sH2b84p/QIDF3911.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sH2b84p)


That's a good one. Great job to all you 3D print-ers
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Antiquar on April 29, 2020, 10:39:11 AM
Incredible work rutgery.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: injundave on April 29, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
I will unpack and set up my 3D scanner next week and see what it makes of a Lucas lens.
I did not know there was product to do that (semi transparent)

If you have any success I could be interested in a set for my Lario.
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: lucky phil on April 29, 2020, 11:19:57 PM
Lucky Phil would blow out the main vein.  :grin:  :boozing:
I was just about to post I bet Chuck loves the colour:) and I saw your post. Me? I was about to ask what type of black paint are they going to use on plastic.

Ciao
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: huub on April 30, 2020, 04:15:16 AM
I will unpack and set up my 3D scanner next week and see what it makes of a Lucas lens.
I did not know there was product to do that (semi transparent)

look for PETG transparent filament , available in lots of colors...
a friend had a set of rear lights made for his car , they turned out pretty nice.
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Ncdan on April 30, 2020, 09:03:44 AM
Maybe the TPS housing could be produced using this technology and some of the more knowledgeable guys here could figure out how to produced the technology inside. Therefore the guzzi company can eat their 500 dollar TPS sensors that has the tendency to go bad, even on newer bikes. 
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Groover on April 30, 2020, 09:30:36 AM
Le Mans 1000 and Lario Tail light Fast-Fins
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: wirespokes on April 30, 2020, 09:38:10 AM
What are Fast Fins?

My request (one of them) is the folding key knob.
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Groover on April 30, 2020, 09:41:47 AM
Glad you asked... lol - the little side fin extensions that fall off from the Le Mans 1000 tail light.
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Tom H on April 30, 2020, 12:57:04 PM
I would like to see a deep spline clutch tool made exactly like the factory shallow spline tool. The factory one fits around the center ring on the pressure plate. I have seen the plastic one that is made, but it's for the shallow spline.

I'll buy one if someone makes one.

Tom
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: bigbikerrick on April 30, 2020, 04:39:07 PM
Glad you asked... lol - the little side fin extensions that fall off from the Le Mans 1000 tail light.

Yeah, those are impossible to find! It would be cool to 3D print a complete tail light lens for that bike where the "fast fins" are one piece with the lens, instead of being glued on.  :thumb:
Rick
Title: Re: Printed Guzzi parts
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 30, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
I was just about to post I bet Chuck loves the colour:) and I saw your post. Me? I was about to ask what type of black paint are they going to use on plastic.

Ciao

Actually, it's more than a little over the top for me.  :shocked:  :smiley: He make one for a red 1100 spot that looks bitchin, though.. has the spot logo and all.