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Title: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: BobA on April 14, 2020, 04:08:59 PM
Would someone please pass the pipe?? Gotta love it! Big guys in tights.....
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: grebmrof on April 14, 2020, 04:59:56 PM
Seems to be a rather brilliant decision!
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: PJPR01 on April 14, 2020, 05:08:37 PM
This from the same governor that wanted to keep the beaches open... :thewife: :thewife:
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: cliffrod on April 14, 2020, 05:14:33 PM
After we moved back to SC and had tv, my wife and I watched wwe every Friday night.  It's a Guilty pleasure with no excuses. Some people drink soda like it has some redemptive value, endlessly stream the most bizarre crap anybody can imagine & produce, whatever.  We have brats or Italian sausage and watch dudes flip & fly without breaking their or each other's necks.  Then it got important, shifted to cable tv that we don't have and we didn't watch anything for about a decade.  It came back to network TV last Oct. we were thrilled.

When - took over, they changed format to do it at their FL training center in an empty ring with no one visible except an announcer and a couple of other wrestlers in front of the cameras.  It's even more ridiculous than ever.  And we've never enjoyed it more.  Those people know they're ridiculous. Now they do it with no pretense to entertain people without the people even being there. 

People can laugh all they want want.   The WWE people have our total respect.   What they're doing right now has less to do with the wrestling than it ever has.

Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 14, 2020, 05:35:34 PM
I sold an elevator to a retired WWF wrestler (won't say his name) but he had stories about hanging out with Andre the Giant. One time he fixed one of his girl friends up with Andre and she gave the predictable "oh my" response. He held his index finger and thumb up (about 6 inches apart) and said "don't worry, I've seen it and it's only this big.........in the width"    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: she stayed with him for 2 years.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Shorty on April 14, 2020, 05:55:01 PM
One of my buddies back in Pa/Oh was a part time TV wrestler. Not a real big name, so he usually was the "heal". He would do dirty trick behind the referree's back and antagonise the "babyface." Always ended  up getting stomped at the last possible minute. Hey, money is money, eh? One time he got injured as Bruno Samartino bodyslammed him and hurt his back.  When he was near his home town, he was the unlikely hero, and "won" a few matches. I used to haul the wrestling ring in the back of one of my bread trucks, so I got a stipend and free admission to the matches in the local area. (Guzzi content). This guy organised local TV wrestling matches, and also did a traveling ladies mud wrestling show. I had a chance to meet some local wrestlers, as well as a couple national guys. My favorite was "George the Animal" Steele.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Cam3512 on April 14, 2020, 05:55:56 PM
Not a wrestling fan at all.  Wife and I just watched the movie "Fighting with my Family".  It was really good.  Gives you a funny behind the scenes look at the billion dollars wrestling business (hence "Essential").  Whether you're a fake wrestling fan or not, check it out.  It's a true story. 
 
What else do you have to do?  Ride a motorcycle?

Cam
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: PJPR01 on April 14, 2020, 06:17:30 PM
Well...now that the tennis courts are closed here in the neighborhood, we are not even able to play with our own family members.  At least the golf course is still open as long as you are alone in your golf cart, for now, and one can still go for a bike ride or walk as long as distance is maintained. 

As far as the fake wrestling, it's so fake, it's funny to watch for a few minutes, but ever since Goldberg retired, it's not as much fun anymore.

Just hard to see how it's considered "essential"...but I'm sure there's some backroom deal that got it labelled as such...

Back to your regular scheduled programming! 

 :thumb: :thumb:

Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Bulldog9 on April 14, 2020, 06:34:03 PM
More evidence of the "Tyranny of the Irrational" we have these days........
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 14, 2020, 06:35:07 PM
Well...now that the tennis courts are closed here in the neighborhood, we are not even able to play with our own family members.  At least the golf course is still open as long as you are alone in your golf cart, for now, and one can still go for a bike ride or walk as long as distance is maintained. 

As far as the fake wrestling, it's so fake, it's funny to watch for a few minutes, but ever since Goldberg retired, it's not as much fun anymore.

Just hard to see how it's considered "essential"...but I'm sure there's some backroom deal that got it labelled as such...

Back to your regular scheduled programming! 

 :thumb: :thumb:

To me it's about as UN interesting as any other TV sport <shrug>
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: jwinwi on April 14, 2020, 06:43:53 PM
Today's sign of the impending apocalypse... :laugh:
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Motormike on April 14, 2020, 07:13:56 PM
I don't watch so-called "Wrestling." But I certainly admire their stunt abilities.  That's what they are to me, professional stunt men (and women).  When a 300 lbs man jumps from the top turnbuckle and lands on someone laying flat on the mat, they'd both better know what their doing or somebody's going to the hospital! And then there's the ability to pick your "opponent" up over your head and slam him to the mat.  No way to fake that.  (Well, the guy being lifted kicks off the mat with his feet to help, but still....)
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Cam3512 on April 14, 2020, 07:19:02 PM
Watch the movie!
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 14, 2020, 07:39:20 PM
After spending a few hours with my retired wrestler - elevator client, I can attest, it's not all fake. He's suffering all the aches and pains that most any aging professional athlete suffers. He didn't put a elevator in his home for fun, he has some serious mobility issues. And he's not THAT old. He said it takes HOURS of rehearsals to do all those moves. Yes, they're not always really pounding the crap out of each other, but it's physical stuff. 
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 14, 2020, 07:58:02 PM
From the little I've watched Dark Side of the Ring on Vice is pretty good too. Not as good as Action Bronson watches Ancient Aliens but better then Bong Appetite.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: cliffrod on April 14, 2020, 08:29:34 PM
After spending a few hours with my retired wrestler - elevator client, I can attest, it's not all fake. He's suffering all the aches and pains that most any aging professional athlete suffers. He didn't put a elevator in his home for fun, he has some serious mobility issues. And he's not THAT old. He said it takes HOURS of rehearsals to do all those moves. Yes, they're not always really pounding the crap out of each other, but it's physical stuff.

That's what we talk about while watching them- how much that's going to hurt in a few years and how someone who's done that for many long years can still function.  Being physically active and strong (not gym muscles) has been a large part of our lives.  Watching someone 250-350lbs do the things they do, even though it's fully choreographed, is what we like to see.   We know how & how much we hurt and regularly comment how much more it must and will hurt to do that for a living.

There's a former pro wrestler here in town.  After being introduced, I had a long talk with him one day about the business.  He told me about the scheduling of contracted career ascension for the right people.  He had fulfilled his obligations and met the right goals.  He only had a relatively short stint (few months) in Japan to complete before becoming a headliner here in the USA.  During the Japan tour, he began to exhibit symptoms of MS and that ended his career before he went "big".  Another friend here in town started wrestling around 92-93 as Mr Wonderful and really enjoyed it. Said the money was great.  He made some posters around the time I moved in 94 but apparently didn't go big.

when I was 16 or 17, I was at a nearby pool hall on a Sunday afternoon between chores with only 1-2 people. A big Cadillac that we didn't recognize stopped at the gas pumps and out stepped Nikita Koloff, Adrian Street & Hart and one of the younger long-haired redneck gonna-get-beaten fighters.  Of course, there was no big Russian accent when Nikita talked.  Just regular guys, but fun to meet them.  They bought some chips and drinks, politely received us and drove off to the next event.   
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Turin on April 14, 2020, 08:36:46 PM
+1 for Dark side of the ring. I also recommend "Beyond The Mat" from about 20 years ago.  I'm not a big wrestling fan, but a lot of those folks are genuine athletes. I don't think very highly of the CEO.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: elvisboy77 on April 14, 2020, 08:42:48 PM
After we moved back to SC and had tv, my wife and I watched wwe every Friday night.  It's a Guilty pleasure with no excuses. Some people drink soda like it has some redemptive value, endlessly stream the most bizarre crap anybody can imagine & produce, whatever.  We have brats or Italian sausage and watch dudes flip & fly without breaking their or each other's necks.  Then it got important, shifted to cable tv that we don't have and we didn't watch anything for about a decade.  It came back to network TV last Oct. we were thrilled.

When - took over, they changed format to do it at their FL training center in an empty ring with no one visible except an announcer and a couple of other wrestlers in front of the cameras.  It's even more ridiculous than ever.  And we've never enjoyed it more.  Those people know they're ridiculous. Now they do it with no pretense to entertain people without the people even being there. 

People can laugh all they want want.   The WWE people have our total respect.   What they're doing right now has less to do with the wrestling than it ever has.

That's great, I agree 100 percent
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 14, 2020, 09:02:03 PM
That's what we talk about while watching them- how much that's going to hurt in a few years and how someone who's done that for many long years can still function.  Being physically active and strong (not gym muscles) has been a large part of our lives.  Watching someone 250-350lbs do the things they do, even though it's fully choreographed, is what we like to see.   We know how & how much we hurt and regularly comment how much more it must and will hurt to do that for a living.

There's a former pro wrestler here in town.  After being introduced, I had a long talk with him one day about the business.  He told me about the scheduling of contracted career ascension for the right people.  He had fulfilled his obligations and met the right goals.  He only had a relatively short stint (few months) in Japan to complete before becoming a headliner here in the USA.  During the Japan tour, he began to exhibit symptoms of MS and that ended his career before he went "big".  Another friend here in town started wrestling around 92-93 as Mr Wonderful and really enjoyed it. Said the money was great.  He made some posters around the time I moved in 94 but apparently didn't go big.

 :thumb: Bill was a hoot to chat with, his framed artwork/photos are fantastic! Photos with Ali, Fraiser, Don King, Mean Gene, and all those pro wrestlers like macho man savage and Andre the Giant. Posters from events world wide with his name. When this mess is over I'll have to go see him again.

when I was 16 or 17, I was at a nearby pool hall on a Sunday afternoon between chores with only 1-2 people. A big Cadillac that we didn't recognize stopped at the gas pumps and out stepped Nikita Koloff, Adrian Street & Hart and one of the younger long-haired redneck gonna-get-beaten fighters.  Of course, there was no big Russian accent when Nikita talked.  Just regular guys, but fun to meet them.  They bought some chips and drinks, politely received us and drove off to the next event.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: TN Mark on April 14, 2020, 11:25:44 PM
Professional wrestlers are certainly some of the world’s best stunt men, athletes and actors.  Sure the outcomes and the choreography is planned but they still have to do all the work to ‘sell’ it. The athleticism of the wrestlers is certainly impressive. I loved it as a kid but seldom watch it anymore. The ‘storylines’ have been embarrassing for many years (decades) now. I do miss the ‘technical’ wrestlers like Brett Hart and Tito Santana. Nowadays it’s way too much talk with too little actual wrestling.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: LowRyter on April 15, 2020, 10:09:56 AM
I haven't been able to watch wrestling since 2016.

So far as entertainment and so long as it's safe and the participants are tested for virus, enjoy the show.

I used to get a chuckle out of it.  My oldest son and I had been to several WWF matches.  My favorite was seeing Bradshaw get piled driven by Kane and we yelled "get the hell back to Texas!"  But I'll never it watch again.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: roadventure on April 15, 2020, 10:27:56 AM
What is "WWE"?
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: PJPR01 on April 15, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
What is "WWE"?

It's an essential business in Florida!   :thumb:
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: TN Mark on April 15, 2020, 11:09:20 AM
  My oldest son and I had been to several WWF matches.  My favorite was seeing Bradshaw get piled driven by Kane and we yelled "get the hell back to Texas!"  But I'll never it watch again.

Back when Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage were in their prime, me and several of my USMC buddies would regularly go to see WWF (WWE) events in Los Angeles. Hogan would pick Savage up over his head, hold him there then run across the ring to throw him onto the crowd in the ringside seats. Hogan and Savage would do this twice on all four sides of the ring. Sure the outcome was predetermined but that's a whole lot of dangerous and strenuous work. The crowds were yelling and screaming so loud you literally couldn't hear yourself yelling. It was a fun time for sure.

A few years later when I was covering Las Vegas as a sales rep, the hotel gave me free tickets to see WCW live event in Vegas. Not as fun as the old WWF (WWE) was but fun in its own right.

Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Two Checks on April 15, 2020, 01:42:29 PM
Mr. Wonderful aka Paul Orndorff.
Back when I was knee high to a grasshopper we lived at a stable in the middle of St. Louis. The arena was used for pro wrestling when the local venue around the corner (The Arena St. Louis Blues and other pro teams played there) was booked. Dad worked part time there and said I met with some of the wrestlers but I was too young to remember.
This was in the days of Thesz, O'Connor, Kininski, The Bruiser, etc.


It used to be fun to watch but it became so far over the top it was unwatchable.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: TN Mark on April 15, 2020, 02:46:20 PM
When we lived in Southern California, our family doctor was one of the greatest doctors I ever met. He was often one of the ringside physicians that are mandated by whatever state the events are in. Dr. Steve had pictures in his office with just about any known wrestler that made it to the larger venues in So Cal. He always said it for 'his kids' but I'm thinking he had a blast as well. And yes, these guys get hurt, a LOT. Especially back in the days when they'd cut themselves to make the blood flow. For years now the WWE has had a no blood policy for their televised matches.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: knockerjoe on April 15, 2020, 02:54:03 PM
My Favorite wrestling movie “The Wrestler”. With Mickey Rourke and Marisa Tomei plays a
stripper.  :thumb: A good story of wrestler at the end of his career.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Two Checks on April 15, 2020, 04:52:47 PM
Lots of those little birds called boobies in that movie.


THAT'S why ya like it! :drool:
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: kirby1923 on April 15, 2020, 06:44:08 PM


As far as the fake wrestling, it's so fake, it's funny to watch for a few minutes, but ever since Goldberg retired, it's not as much fun anymore.

 :thumb: :thumb:




What! There're Fake??

Damn...
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: PJPR01 on April 15, 2020, 06:56:36 PM



What! There're Fake??  Damn...

Heartbroken I was to find out as well!  Crushed!   :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: cliffrod on April 15, 2020, 07:06:46 PM
Heartbroken I was to find out as well!  Crushed!   :grin: :grin:

Careful....  you might get crushed by Otis (of Heavy Machinery) if he does the Caterpillar on ya- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VzaEiDhRQ4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VzaEiDhRQ4)

he's the Dusty Rhodes of the 21st Century and without any of the trash talking..

Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: PJPR01 on April 15, 2020, 07:21:23 PM
Careful....  you might get crushed by Otis (of Heavy Machinery) if he does the Caterpillar on ya- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VzaEiDhRQ4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6VzaEiDhRQ4)

he's the Dusty Rhodes of the 21st Century and without any of the trash talking..

Nah...Gravedigger or Goldberg!     :grin: :grin:   :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: oldbike54 on April 15, 2020, 07:37:59 PM
 Oddly enough , I met Goldberg probably 15 years ago at the a restaurant in Tulsa's Cheery ST district  . Had no idea who he was , just a largish fella who had some questions about my /5 . He was very polite , presented himself in a completely non-threatening gentle fashion . Later someone told me he was a pro wrestler , still had no idea who he was . Apparently Roy D Mercer called him once , dunno , guessing that might have been interesting :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: cliffrod on April 15, 2020, 07:51:44 PM
Nah...Gravedigger or Goldberg!     :grin: :grin:   :thumb: :thumb:

We didn't see much of Gravedigger and then missed Goldberg during the no-network years.  He was back on a few weeks ago, only to get beaten by one of the new tattooed hair gel dudes.  Bummer.    Lots of idiots on there now.  Plenty of time to surf WG while Smackdown is on nowadays.

We always liked the Undertaker best, kinda the Marshall Dillon btdt do I really need to prove it again icon. 
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: jdgretz on April 16, 2020, 02:25:26 PM
I go way back - watching Ricky Starr, Freddie Blassie, The Fabulous Moolah, Gorgeous George, and The Masked Destroyer, along with the ring side announcer, Jimmy Weldon (that pencil neck geek! per Freddie).

Fun times with my dad.

jdg
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Shorty on April 17, 2020, 12:34:35 AM
Back in the 'Burgh, we had Studio Wrestling in the 70s. Bruno Samartino was the local champ. Some of the local guys made it big. One local champ, Jumpin Johnny Defasio, was President of the Steel Workers Union in Pittsburgh. The referree, Paddy Grimes, was VP of my local USW in Aliquippa, Pa. Bill Cardille, the ring announcer, also had a weekend Horror movie show, Chiller Theatre. And of course super fan Ringside Rosie was there every night, too...   (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Bruno_WWWF_Champion.jpg/220px-Bruno_WWWF_Champion.jpg)
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.epm8cD4DrsQTHoaEmOcJrgHaD5&pid=Api&rs=1&c=1&qlt=95&w=201&h=105)
(https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.YKmHNGxTPuNV4TlMRnkgcgHaFj&pid=Api&P=0&w=220&h=165)
(http://img.beckett.com/images/items_stock/185223/10228758/10228872/front.jpg)  (http://www.showapuroresu.com/bio/ho/photo/bobo_brazil.jpg)

(http://www.post-gazette.com/image/2016/06/29/ca5,44,1800,1393/cardille-bill-chiller-theater-mag.jpg)

(http://www.chillertheatermemories.com/sw118.jpg)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Wrestling

Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Two Checks on April 17, 2020, 06:20:58 AM
Way back when the NWA was the BMOC in STL they had a weekly show called Wrestling at the Chase. The Chase was the Chase-Park Plaza hotel and the matches were held on one of the upper floors. The hotel was also owned by the same guy who owned the Ch 11 tv station with studios in the same building.
Every week there was the same lady at ringside who was really into it. She was always yelling at the wrestlers, the refs, anyone. She would even go to the mat and pound on it while yelling.
Beer was served in paper cups like at the ball park.
If Dick the Bruiser was on the card you could guarantee when Dick was in trouble he would exit the ring, grab the woman's beer, take a swig and then pour it on his head. Then he would kick hiney.
They made sure she always had a beer.
Early on Joe Garagiola was the ring announcer. When he moved on to bigger things his brother, Mickey took over the duties. They lived nearby.
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: larrys on April 17, 2020, 07:23:39 AM
Who remembers Captain Lou Albano? Best agent ever... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIuWVXLKyPQ
Be well,
Larry
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Texas Turnip on April 17, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
I'm enjoying this thread. My younger college educated brother said that " rasslen is sufficient amusement for inferior intelligence and my big brother is sitting on the front row"

Jack Barton Adkisson was barely making a living rasslin when he decicde to take his moms maiden name von Eric and Fritz von Eric was born using the german iron claw.When he put the iron claw on the opponets head it was usually lights out time.

Back in the 50's and 60's before wide spread TV there was "World Champeens" in Dallas, Houston and probably most major cities. A good share of wrestlers then were big beer gut brusiers, unlike today when they are extreme athletes with some like John Cena having a college degree.

Some didn't do good using their real name like "Konrad Kumquat" so they used a macho name almost like some on WildGuizzi do. ha

Wrestling madtches bring back lots of good memories just like Moto Guzzi rallies do.

Tapping out,
Tex
Title: Re: WWE Declared an Essential Business in FL
Post by: Turin on April 17, 2020, 07:39:59 PM
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Jack Barton Adkisson was barely making a living rasslin when he decicde to take his moms maiden name von Eric and Fritz von Eric was born using the german iron claw.When he put the iron claw on the opponets head it was usually lights out time.

Season one of Dark Side Of the Ring covered the Von Eric Family. Tragic.

I loved watching GLOW when I was a kid. Mt Fiji ( our favorite) would come out and she would clean house ! awesomeness!

(https://i.ibb.co/vsHVfCZ/1-V3-T3g-De-PKe31e38-Fx8j-W0g.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vsHVfCZ)