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Title: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: smross on April 27, 2020, 07:53:59 PM
I'm in the process of resuscitating a '73 V7 Sport that hasn't been run in years.  My question concerns spline servicing.  Specifically, which splines should I lubricate?  I've read that the rear end should be done.  Should the drive shaft itself be lubed?  If so, do I need to remove the swing arm to access it or should it pull straight out? Apologies for all the questions at once; just trying to get educated.
Thanks in advance.
Best,
Steve Ross
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: Perazzimx14 on April 27, 2020, 08:17:52 PM
Its 47 years old. Pull everything apart. Clean inspect replace whats needed/if needed to be replaced.  Lube what needs to be lubed then reassemble. also a great time to check service the pivot bearings. At almost 5 decades old assume nothing. 
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: moto-uno on April 27, 2020, 09:56:39 PM
 ^ Damned hard to argue that remark  :bow: .  Peter
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: smross on April 28, 2020, 12:15:27 AM
I agree; it is excellent advice and that’s what I’m going to do. Thanks.
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: organfixsing on April 28, 2020, 01:11:39 AM
AFAIK the splines should be lubricated with a high percentage Molybdenum grease. The only place I have been able to get this is at a shop that specializes in air rifles. The stuff I got was 73% MS2 (as Molybdenum Disulphide is commonly referred to).
This grease is particularly stiff and I think would not fling off.
Cheers
Brian  :azn:
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: Muzz on April 28, 2020, 03:24:52 AM
I suspect the air rifle grease would be much the same as the CV grease I use.  Loaded with moly and designed to take a load.  I get mine from the local automotive shop, but that may be different in other places.
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: Dave Swanson on April 28, 2020, 05:35:31 AM
Stickiest stuff I have found.
(https://i.ibb.co/T2Ymscr/0890401000-NEW-jpg-1200-Wx1200-H.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T2Ymscr)
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: cliffrod on April 28, 2020, 06:59:22 AM
Depending upon how deep your resuscitation is- I came to regret not cleaning the sludge trap in my V7 Sport when I replaced the cylinders & pistons. 

It was great for a while.  then the honeymoon ended...
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: smross on April 28, 2020, 09:08:22 AM
OMG, Cliffrod :laugh:!  Talk about, "while you're in there...!"  Nah, I'll probably live to regret saying this but I'm not prepared to go THAT far into the resuscitation.  The bike doesn't have a lot of miles on it so I'm confident in leaving the sludge traps alone.  The only reason I installed the Gilardonis was that a friend had gotten rid of his Sport and he had the new pistons/cylinders sitting in the box.  He sold them to me at a fire-sale price and I figured that using them would eliminate the worry of the chrome bores flaking, etc.
I'll probably go with the Wurth SIG 3000 grease.  I've read great things about it and Wurth doesn't make junk.
Thanks for all the great responses; you guys have been great.  I'm sure I'll have more questions as I delve deeper into this project.
Best,
Steve Ross
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: jwinwi on April 28, 2020, 10:20:06 AM
 :gotpics: Of the bike.
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: smross on April 28, 2020, 11:31:49 AM

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Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: jwinwi on April 28, 2020, 12:08:19 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: moto-uno on April 28, 2020, 01:01:22 PM
  ^+1
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: Dave Swanson on April 28, 2020, 01:13:08 PM
Looks like a winner
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: smross on May 04, 2020, 01:45:57 PM
I finally got around to pulling the rear drive on my V7 Sport and getting a look at all the splines.  Photos are below.  I didn't so much as touch them.  Everything is as it was as I pulled things apart.  The splines look good to me.  My other observation is everything is as dry as a bone.  My question is: a friend who's a BMW tech. gave me some factory BMW spline grease.  Will that suffice in the Guzzi or should I get the Wurth grease?  I also welcome comments on the splines (but not my photography!).
Thanks.
Best,
Steve ross
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Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: Muzz on May 04, 2020, 04:45:28 PM
Cheap is good, free is better.

I used to sell Wurth's stuff (but not their grease).  Good but expensive.

I see no reason why the BMW stuff would not be as good.
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: pehayes on May 04, 2020, 05:11:57 PM
Someone here recently tipped me off to nautical outdrive spline grease by SIERRA and sold through West Marine.   I'm currently using that and we'll see how it goes.  I totally ate up an EV final drive input spline at 100K  miles.  And that with regular lubrication using a variety of greases.

Your stuff looks almost new by comparison.  Lube and ride.

Patrick Hayes
Fremont  CA
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 04, 2020, 06:03:32 PM
Hoo Wee.. you have yourself a *nice* project, there. The splines look great. I'd get rid of the rust, then use your spooge of choice for lube. I, personally, am a fan of Wurth. Other's MMV.  :smiley:
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: John A on May 04, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
After I degrease the splines , I use a spray moly that dries . Over the dry film lube I started useing Wurth, so far it stays where I put it.
Title: Re: V7 Sport spline service
Post by: BRG-BIRD on May 04, 2020, 08:23:54 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/JHggF4k/DSC02762.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JHggF4k)

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(https://i.ibb.co/n3mKv3V/DSC02769.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n3mKv3V)

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We have the same roller seat lol

Nice bike :thumb: