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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: MedicAndy on May 04, 2020, 09:58:44 PM
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I sold my 1985 LeMans to a good friend of mine about two years ago. I didn't think too much about this bike anymore until we met up for a ride earlier this week. My buddy rode the LeMans, and I a Sport 1100. I took a couple of pictures of our bikes together, and I guess just looking at my old bike rekindled the lemans flame within! :) And, almost like it was meant too be, I saw a 9.6k original miles 1987 Moto Guzzi LeMans 1000SE for sale in NH. I talked to the seller, and we both agreed on a selling / purchasing amount that worked for the both of us, and the rest is history. I'm driving up to NH in two weeks to take this LeMans to her new stable here in Raleigh, NC.
Here is a little history of the Moto Guzzi Lemans SE, which the seller of this bike send to me earlier today.
The 1987 Moto Guzzi Le Mans 1000 SE (Special Edition) was a limited run of motorcycles based on the Series II Le Mans 1000. Built in honor of the 20th anniversary of the release of the V7, it has evolved into a collector’s bike particularly desired by Guzzistas. Only 100 examples of the Moto Guzzi Le Mans 1000 SE made it to the United States. Of however many still remain, plenty are in museums and private collections, so a purchasing opportunity like this can be quite rare.
All of the Special Editions had the red and white paint scheme, with distinctive aspects including a red seat, and red wheels. Cosmetic differences were many, though the mechanical differences were few. Engines were untouched, though the acceleration was boosted as the transmissions were geared closer than the standard Le Mans.
The Le Mans 1000 (sometimes referred to as the Le Mans IV) entered production in 1984 and was made until 1993 in two series. This was a quite different looking motorcycle although still unmistakably a “Guzzi”. The seat was changed and flowed in an upward curve from the fuel tank. The half fairing grew a belly pan and the riding position was made a little more upright for touring.
The cockpit instrument panel was mounted in the fairing which had been developed in the Mandello del Lario wind tunnel. Engine capacity of the Le Mans 1000 was increased to 949cc with 40mm pumper Dell’Orto PHM 40 carburettors to ensure an adequate fuel air supply to that larger engine. This bike was also fitted as standard with the B10 camshaft originally used in the factory production racing model and had larger valves. The Le Mans 1000 was also fitted with a new Valeo starter. The frame of the bike remained much the same as the previous models but with a modified steering head and altered rear.
Here is the picture which rekindled the LeMans flame within me! :)
(https://i.ibb.co/pwvX2yd/fullsizeoutput-22b9d.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pwvX2yd)
And this is the bike I bought today:
(https://i.ibb.co/n1Cds18/fullsizeoutput-22c34.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n1Cds18)
(https://i.ibb.co/QQCKSYt/fullsizeoutput-22c36.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QQCKSYt)
(https://i.ibb.co/RpWBsHv/fullsizeoutput-22c37.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RpWBsHv)
(https://i.ibb.co/8cfHS7F/fullsizeoutput-22c39.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8cfHS7F)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6hXz3r/fullsizeoutput-22c3c.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6hXz3r)
I'm also getting the original red seat with this bike, so I'm pretty sure that I will replace the currently installed Corbin seat and replace it with the original seat. I kinda like the red seat.
(https://i.ibb.co/tPh1q7G/20190418-1987-moto-guzzi-le-mans-1000se-left-730x487.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tPh1q7G)
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Very pretty bike.
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That looks like a great example of a rare bike, really beautiful. Enjoy!
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Wow. That is stunning
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(https://i.ibb.co/yfMB5m8/20160115-133318.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yfMB5m8)
Thats a lovely LeMans you got. I love the colors,and the 16" front wheel, and yes,it would look much prettier with the red seat! I really like my 85, although not nearly as pretty as yours. :thumb:
Rick
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Switching things up ! All those sports has to get a little boring. The LeMans SE is a great bike and I'll never part with mine. I run a taller profile front tire and it works well.
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Yeah, that's a beauty all right.. :thumb:
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Fantastic condition. Am amazing find!
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Your right! That red seat puts it puts it all back together color and design wise..awesome find! Congrats. :thumb:
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How to the LM and the Sport compare when riding them back to back?
Mike
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Funny, just the other day I was just thinking of that one photo of yours where the '85 is leading the pack of Sports when someone mentioned that the Euro '91 Le Mans 1000 ultima edizione had the same red as the Daytona (which may be the same as the sport?) - never got around to trying to find it to see what the difference was.
Congrats on the new SE. Looks to be in great shape and all original minus the seat and the fork tube covers. I also agree that the red stock seat looks best on that model. Good thing the previous owner still had it.
I have two of those (2% of them.. :azn:). Both mine need work, one more that the other. In the end, they'll be all original as well. They mostly are already, but one was unfortunately poorly stored and the other was in an accident, so both need some TLC to get them back looking good.
Glad one is in your hands as you seems to be very good with details on models and such, so looking forward to more reports on the SE from you.
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As the owner of your previous LeMans I approve! And I can hardly wait to see it!
:bike-037:
Hunter
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I’ve wanted one of the white/red SEs for years, but things never came together for me when one came up for sale. My ‘90 LM V is still my favorite of the multiple Guzzis in my garage.
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Very nice!
The red seat is irreplaceable these days. Originals have the white pinstripe around the edges. Replacements do not. Keep the original for special occasions, use the corbin for everyday.
:thumb: :bow:
John Henry
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Very nice!
The read seat is irreplaceable these days. Originals have the white pinstripe around the edges. Replacements do not. Keep the original for special occasions, use the corbin for everyday.
:thumb: :bow:
John Henry
This SE must be one of a very few with the original seat and seat cover!
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Nice Bike! With the red piping on the Corbin seat, the bike also looks fabulous . Two seats, two great looks.
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I remember this bike new on the showroom floor at Harry's Motors downtown Denver. It was the only new guzzi they had in stock and it took them 3 or 4 years to sell it. No one wanted guzzis back then.
I had an 84' at the time with the full agostini fairing.
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Here is a peek at one of mine, it would be in great condition if it weren't some oxidation from storage. The black oxide treated hardware on this bike is very unforgiving. My other one is mostly in boxes and covered by junk in my garage.
(https://i.ibb.co/gvPP8jk/Le-Mans-SE-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gvPP8jk)
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Very nice SE, enjoy!
Art
(https://i.ibb.co/gmYJB7V/My-87-LM-SE.png) (https://ibb.co/gmYJB7V)
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I have one in Kona. Same year and color. :thumb:
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Funny, just the other day I was just thinking of that one photo of yours where the '85 is leading the pack of Sports .......
Memories....... I took that picture in January 2017, and the others are from the summer of 2016. That 1985 LeMans was the first Guzzi that I have ever bought, or in other words, this was the one that started the madness! Something tells me that I will take a new "Leader of the Pack" picture with the new stable addition soon! :)
(https://i.ibb.co/jyvTVgY/fullsizeoutput-20040.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jyvTVgY)
(https://i.ibb.co/pWZBqWr/fullsizeoutput-20201.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pWZBqWr)
(https://i.ibb.co/9w2qQnR/IMG-9825.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9w2qQnR)
This bike didn't stay by herself for long.....
(https://i.ibb.co/5KWXV56/IMG-9826.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5KWXV56)
This picture was taken just before I loaded her up at her formers home in St. Luise
(https://i.ibb.co/bBPVDBs/fullsizeoutput-1fafd.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bBPVDBs)
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Yes that is the photo, I guess the LM was actually herding the sports. I remembered it being in front. You can fix that now, lol
Edit: What brand headers are those, and was there any difference in performance moving the crossover closer to the head?
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:drool:
Tells self “must not covet thy neighbors Guzzi”
Beautiful bike!
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Yes that is the photo, I guess the LM was actually herding the sports. I remembered it being in front. You can fix that now, lol
Edit: What brand headers are those, and was there any difference in performance moving the crossover closer to the head?
I can't tell you anything about those headers or exhaust pipes, since they were already installed on that bike when I bought her. I do know, if I would have known that I was going to end up with another LeMans, that I would have kept that bikes nice stainless steel exhaust and reinstalled the original black factory exhaust before I sold that bike to Hunter...... :) Hunter was over at my home with the LeMans about two weeks ago, and that bike sounded so great as he left my home riding down the street........
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Bub header/headpipe
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Very nice SE, enjoy!
Art
(https://i.ibb.co/gmYJB7V/My-87-LM-SE.png) (https://ibb.co/gmYJB7V)
GuzziArt, did you have trouble keeping the amber turn signal lenses on? It appears you had to use narrow zap-straps on them. I have a 1985 T5... with (I believe) the same turn signals as your Le Mans 1000 SE.
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The inside push on locking tabs will break with age.
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Here is a peek at one of mine, it would be in great condition if it weren't some oxidation from storage. The black oxide treated hardware on this bike is very unforgiving. My other one is mostly in boxes and covered by junk in my garage.
(https://i.ibb.co/gvPP8jk/Le-Mans-SE-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gvPP8jk)
Hey Groover,
Your SE with corroded fasteners could be one of the "damaged" bikes that came over at that time. There was an entire container of Guzzis that was exposed to moisture during transit. The bikes were sold at a discount. I could have bought all the SE LeMans I wanted for 2500 each in the crate.
But I was a poor Guzzi mechanic!
Hunter
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IIRC the problems with the 16" wheels were not from the size of the front wheel but with the triple trees. I still have the 16" wheel/tires on the front of my SE.
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Gorgeous bike!
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IIRC the problems with the 16" wheels were not from the size of the front wheel but with the triple trees. I still have the 16" wheel/tires on the front of my SE.
AFAIK the triple trees are specific to the wheel size; so, for example, fitting an 18 inch frt wheel on a 16"specific triple tree will not give a good result. For the LeMans V Guzzi went to an 18" frt wheel, first with a (presumably) cast ductile or cast steel triple tree (or at least a non light-alloy one, cast or otherwise) - then latterly, later production, cast in light alloy. Can you explain how you figure the 16"specific triple tree is a prb?
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GuzziArt, did you have trouble keeping the amber turn signal lenses on? It appears you had to use narrow zap-straps on them. I have a 1985 T5... with (I believe) the same turn signals as your Le Mans 1000 SE.
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The PO installed the tyraps on the ts lens to keep them from falling off, sometime in the life of the vehicle the lens tabs got broken. The lens are a tight enough fit that I was able to take a clear strip of packing tape and run it along the bottom of the lamp housing & lens to secure the lens. That was 10 years ago, the tape worked great, no more tyraps, no lost lenses....FWIW.
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AFAIK the triple trees are specific to the wheel size; so, for example, fitting an 18 inch frt wheel on a 16"specific triple tree will not give a good result. For the LeMans V Guzzi went to an 18" frt wheel, first with a (presumably) cast ductile or cast steel triple tree (or at least a non light-alloy one, cast or otherwise) - then latterly, later production, cast in light alloy. Can you explain how you figure the 16"specific triple tree is a prb?
A lot of the guys didn't like the 16" wheel. "Weird" handling. A number of bikes had cracks in the triple trees allowing for flex. IIRC. Can't remember if it was a recall or dealer fix. Maybe Curtis could jump in.
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The PO installed the tyraps on the ts lens to keep them from falling off, sometime in the life of the vehicle the lens tabs got broken. The lens are a tight enough fit that I was able to take a clear strip of packing tape and run it along the bottom of the lamp housing & lens to secure the lens. That was 10 years ago, the tape worked great, no more tyraps, no lost lenses....FWIW.
Thx!
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A lot of the guys didn't like the 16" wheel. "Weird" handling. A number of bikes had cracks in the triple trees allowing for flex. IIRC. Can't remember if it was a recall or dealer fix. Maybe Curtis could jump in.
OK... Thx.
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AFAIK the triple trees are specific to the wheel size; so, for example, fitting an 18 inch frt wheel on a 16"specific triple tree will not give a good result. For the LeMans V Guzzi went to an 18" frt wheel, first with a (presumably) cast ductile or cast steel triple tree (or at least a non light-alloy one, cast or otherwise) - then latterly, later production, cast in light alloy. Can you explain how you figure the 16"specific triple tree is a prb?
There was a problem related to geometry on early bikes and IIRC it made them wobble at speed. All early LeMans 1000 were provided with an updated triple tree. I installed a couple. And there was a change for the 18 inch wheel as well. The 16 inch wheel was not an issue except to Japanese bike fanboy "journalists". The bikes are sensitive to tire pressure. I have ridden many and even own one now. It's a fantastic bike! When we received the first of the Lemans 1000 with the 18 I must say it was a disappointment. I think it detracted from the look of the bike but mostly it just slowed the steering. Not the same animal it was. I'm a bit biased on the subject but I think that the 85-86 LeMans 1000 is the best Tonti bike by far. The SE is also great but the gearing makes it chore in town. The later 1000 was a good evolution and I enjoyed it a lot. Just not like the quick, light on it's feet version!
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The current 16" front & back on the Eldorado 1400 makes that bike really fun. I checked my triple trees on my SE and no cracks plus I run higher air pressures in the tires. I have no problems with it.
I did have problems with the accel pump on one carb pumping 2 times as much gas as the other. Took a while to figure out that problem. It was still in the factory setting. (subject for a different thread)
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Hey Groover,
Your SE with corroded fasteners could be one of the "damaged" bikes that came over at that time. There was an entire container of Guzzis that was exposed to moisture during transit. The bikes were sold at a discount. I could have bought all the SE LeMans I wanted for 2500 each in the crate.
But I was a poor Guzzi mechanic!
Hunter
It could be one of those I suppose, but I picked mine up from Larry Klein's / GT Motors estate sale in MI in late 2018. The estate sale had about 60 motorcycles, and because of the circumstances of the dealership closing, a lot of the bikes had some storage/oxidation issues of some sort, some didn't - depending on how/where they had been stored I believe. The plate that came on my bike had an old registration sticker, I don't have it in front of me but I think it was 2012 or 2014 maybe.
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There was a problem related to geometry on early bikes and IIRC it made them wobble at speed. All early LeMans 1000 were provided with an updated triple tree. I installed a couple. And there was a change for the 18 inch wheel as well. The 16 inch wheel was not an issue except to Japanese bike fanboy "journalists". The bikes are sensitive to tire pressure. I have ridden many and even own one now. It's a fantastic bike! When we received the first of the Lemans 1000 with the 18 I must say it was a disappointment. I think it detracted from the look of the bike but mostly it just slowed the steering. Not the same animal it was. I'm a bit biased on the subject but I think that the 85-86 LeMans 1000 is the best Tonti bike by far. The SE is also great but the gearing makes it chore in town. The later 1000 was a good evolution and I enjoyed it a lot. Just not like the quick, light on it's feet version!
Any idea whether the T5 850 NT received different triple clamps too? Mine is this series 3... with 110/90-16 on a 2.15"wide rim... and a 120/90-18 on a 3.00"wide rear rim. Unlike the 2.5"wide frt LeMans iv frt rim with 120/80 tire... Frame is exactly the same as a LeMans iv. My T5 is of course a Europe only version (the series 3).
Mine was the 44th bike built, built in Nov 1984.
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With the early triples that came on the first LM1000 and an 18" wheel, steering is light and easy.
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Any idea whether the T5 850 NT received different triple clamps too? Mine is this series 3... with 110/90-16 on a 2.15"wide rim... and a 120/90-18 on a 3.00"wide rear rim. Unlike the 2.5"wide frt LeMans iv frt rim with 120/80 tire... Frame is exactly the same as a LeMans iv. My T5 is of course a Europe only version (the series 3).
Mine was the 44th bike built, built in Nov 1984.
The T5 has different forks and tree.
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The T5 has different forks and tree.
Ah yes... I remember now. 38mm forks (versus 40mm). Thx.
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Fork spacing is also different. The T5 has 195mm spacing, and the Le Mans has 180mm. Also, the T5 I believe has the 65mm offset like the T3, G5, etc and same offset as the first type triples that came on the Le Mans 1000, then that was changed to 45mm offset as the "fix" and then remained 45mm all the way to the end of the Le Mans 1000 series ('91).
So "technically" the T5 should've had the same wobble issues or any other handling issues claimed as on the first Le Mans 1000 models based on that offset number, but I'm also guessing that other things came into play like riding position, tire sizes, shock heights, etc. Who knows, maybe as mentioned above the only issue with the Le Mans 1000 was as simple as the tire pressure then the rumors got out of hand :azn:
I've also become a die hard Le Mans 1000 fan in these past few years, and also think it has a very cool distinct lines and stance.
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Fork spacing is also different. The T5 has 195mm spacing, and the Le Mans has 180mm. Also, the T5 I believe has the 65mm offset like the T3, G5, etc and same offset as the first type triples that came on the Le Mans 1000, then that was changed to 45mm offset as the "fix" and then remained 45mm all the way to the end of the Le Mans 1000 series ('91).
So "technically" the T5 should've had the same wobble issues or any other handling issues claimed as on the first Le Mans 1000 models based on that offset number, but I'm also guessing that other things came into play like riding position, tire sizes, shock heights, etc. Who knows, maybe as mentioned above the only issue with the Le Mans 1000 was as simple as the tire pressure then the rumors got out of hand :azn:
I've also become a die hard Le Mans 1000 fan in these past few years, and also think it has a very cool distinct lines and stance.
Thank you, Groover, for a great, detailed answer!
I attach a graphic for the Series 1 and 2 T5. Mine is a Series 3, though. I had thought that this dimension was shown on this graphic... but I see, no....
For the Series iii they put an 18" wheel on the rear, and retained the 16" wheel on the front. I don't think they changed the offset of the triple clamp. They DID change the frame... I believe... only inasmuch as the steering head was now longer (taller) and braced... I think they started doing that bracing for the Cal II... but I don't think the SP II and T5 frame is the same as the frame for the Cal II.
In any case, I believe the forks, triple clamp, frame - are identical between the SP II and the T5.
Finally, I should note that the publication of the day - Motociclismo - noted that the T5 would weave a bit on poor pavement. They didn't jump up and down about it.... but said the effect was fairly minimal. So this goes to what you said in your post.
Again, Thanks!
(https://i.ibb.co/6WPj6YD/Forcella-Details-850-T5-Series-1-and-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6WPj6YD)
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The bike handles better for me with air pressures near the max, minimizing sidewall flex on the bias-ply tires.
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^^+1
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Here is a peek at one of mine, it would be in great condition if it weren't some oxidation from storage. The black oxide treated hardware on this bike is very unforgiving. My other one is mostly in boxes and covered by junk in my garage.
(https://i.ibb.co/gvPP8jk/Le-Mans-SE-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gvPP8jk)
HOaRDER! Someone get over there, quick, he might hurt himself...oh okay I'll move this over here, and move this, and ya, you won't need this anymore....want to make you safe ya know..
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* lol, it has become a challenge in my garage lately. I'm constantly jenga-ing things around, to the point that I wonder if my hobbies are motorcycles and riding them or playing Jenga with motorcycles and scooters in my garage. Being different shapes and sizes adds to the fun, which answers my own question.. I think it's Jenga. :smiley:
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Hi all, first time poster alert!
I’ve been searching everywhere trying to work out how many MK4 SE’s were actually produced?
Every article appears to use the same info that “100 were sold in America” but that’s about it.
Does anyone have any information on how many were built?
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DANG, Andy!
It seemslike every time i see a post from you here or on ADV, you're adding another gorgeous Moto Guzzi to your collection.
I'm more than a little jealous! This new LeMans is no exception. Fantastic looking machine, sir. Congratulations!
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Hi all, first time poster alert!
I’ve been searching everywhere trying to work out how many MK4 SE’s were actually produced?
Every article appears to use the same info that “100 were sold in America” but that’s about it.
Does anyone have any information on how many were built?
Welcome to WG.. and good luck with that search. I doubt if Mother Goose knows.. :smiley: Guzzi's record keeping has been..uh..suspect.
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They made 100 SE's for the US Market. The red white paint scheme was available in other markets, but not necessarily with the close ratio 5 speed, or the blacked out drivetrain.
There was one new in crate sold at Mecum, that turned out not to be an SE. ( standard gearbox, I think)
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One of them immigrated to Hawaii. Currently living at the Pacific Moto Guzzi Refuge and Preserve. :grin: Recovered from inhalation problems. After years of therapy, a solution was found for a hidden breathing problem. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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They made 100 SE's for the US Market. The red white paint scheme was available in other markets, but not necessarily with the close ratio 5 speed, or the blacked out drivetrain.
There was one new in crate sold at Mecum, that turned out not to be an SE. ( standard gearbox, I think)
Great catch, Turin. Romanelli was bringing in non-Federalized bikes... The lack of side-reflectors is the giveaway. So it is indeed possible that the Mecum bike (originally imported by Moto 2001 - Francesco Romanelli in LaChine Quebec) does not have close-ratio gears. It did have a blacked-out engine though.
(https://i.ibb.co/X5nsbry/Screenshot-2020-01-23-14-40-30-1.png) (https://ibb.co/X5nsbry)
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Interesting comments on the whole 16" / 18" and triple trees alternatives. Mine is an 86 lemans with 16 " wheel, and I do think it doesnt quite have that " running on rails" feel over 140 kph. I run pressures at 37 to 38 psi, running stock tyre sizes.
What are you fellow 16 inchers running?
Cheers
Bazil
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I have to go look.
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The SE short gear ratio box should have a ZD#### stamp on the left side of the box.
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Interesting comments on the whole 16" / 18" and triple trees alternatives. Mine is an 86 lemans with 16 " wheel, and I do think it doesnt quite have that " running on rails" feel over 140 kph. I run pressures at 37 to 38 psi, running stock tyre sizes.
What are you fellow 16 inchers running?
Cheers
Bazil
Seems you are running the correct tire pressure, what Others have had success with... like Turin, like Patrick Hayes (Patrick with an SPII). Folks seem to intimate that NOT having a STRAIGHT central groove down the middle of the tire is NOT a problem. I think Turin runs a Bridgestone Battleax - which has a squigly groove down the middle... and he says it's great.
Guzzi originally used a Michelin A48 on the 850T5 (with its 16" tire) and a Pirelli on the LeMans IV... both with the straight-as-a-die groove down the centre. On rain-grooved concrete freeway, those would NOT be good... (and on some metal bridge decks) - but on good pavement maybe those would be worth a try.
Seems to me that you have a 2.5" wide rim, and that the front tire size is 120/80-16. You could try a Metzeler ME33 Lazer and run at highish pressures?
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Great catch, Turin. Romanelli was bringing in non-Federalized bikes... The lack of side-reflectors is the giveaway. So it is indeed possible that the Mecum bike (originally imported by Moto 2001 - Francesco Romanelli in LaChine Quebec) does not have close-ratio gears. It did have a blacked-out engine though.
(https://i.ibb.co/X5nsbry/Screenshot-2020-01-23-14-40-30-1.png) (https://ibb.co/X5nsbry)
So no side reflectors means it’s not a USA release bike? (This one is in Australia)
(https://i.ibb.co/3R3VQ4D/58-E15785-4-A98-43-DF-8718-109902168469.png) (https://ibb.co/3R3VQ4D)
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Seems you are running the correct tire pressure, what Others have had success with... like Turin, like Patrick Hayes (Patrick with an SPII). Folks seem to intimate that NOT having a STRAIGHT central groove down the middle of the tire is NOT a problem. I think Turin runs a Bridgestone Battleax - which has a squigly groove down the middle... and he says it's great.
Guzzi originally used a Michelin A48 on the 850T5 (with its 16" tire) and a Pirelli on the LeMans IV... both with the straight-as-a-die groove down the centre. On rain-grooved concrete freeway, those would NOT be good... (and on some metal bridge decks) - but on good pavement maybe those would be worth a try.
Seems to me that you have a 2.5" wide rim, and that the front tire size is 120/80-16. You could try a Metzeler ME33 Lazer and run at highish pressures?
I should add that it was also said that the REAR tire should have a straight central groove too. If this is true then the pairing with the Laser frt tire (is it the Metzeler ME55??) does not accomplish (or result in) that. I say this 'cuz they comprise a pairing, per Metzeler...
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So no side reflectors means it’s not a USA release bike? (This one is in Australia)
(https://i.ibb.co/3R3VQ4D/58-E15785-4-A98-43-DF-8718-109902168469.png) (https://ibb.co/3R3VQ4D)
I can't speak for all markets.. but the Federalized (US) bikes have prominent side-reflectors.
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So no side reflectors means it’s not a USA release bike? (This one is in Australia)
(https://i.ibb.co/3R3VQ4D/58-E15785-4-A98-43-DF-8718-109902168469.png) (https://ibb.co/3R3VQ4D)
Sharp looking SE, did you have to make any modifications to fit that exhaust system? Looks like it mounts to the original foot pegs/rest bracket?
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Not my bike as yet, the pipes are a Lafranconi set that will need matching headers - I’m seeing a few pics of MK4’s that have the pipes attached to the foot peg bracket.
The originals appear to be hanging in the wind? Or do they have a bracket behind then that can’t be seen?
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Not my bike as yet, the pipes are a Lafranconi set that will need matching headers - I’m seeing a few pics of MK4’s that have the pipes attached to the foot peg bracket.
The originals appear to be hanging in the wind? Or do they have a bracket behind then that can’t be seen?
If you mean the Lafranconi's, there is a bracket as seen in this picture:
(https://i.ibb.co/6Xmmn0m/22-F5-D95-A-BDE2-406-B-95-B0-716-E19-B7-EB92.jpg)
I purchased these headers from Teo Lamers for my Lemans I even though I was hesitant with them being a two piece header but I haven't detected any leaks but I did use some RTV when installing. Nice finish but of course they are pealing in the usual places.
(https://i.ibb.co/02pk99Q/61220824781-8-FEC0393-2-A41-4018-9320-3-DD26229-B791.jpg)
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Tasty stuff there blackcat :boozing:
As far as the original mounting goes, they also hang from the foot rest bracket, but the separate mounting bracket is further in (or I should say the pipes are further out)..
(https://i.ibb.co/3BvkQBB/LM4-Exhaust.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3BvkQBB)