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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Huzo on May 17, 2020, 04:46:59 AM
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Today I spotted this after a ride.
(https://i.ibb.co/dmLpgwx/338-AC0-E5-EBEA-47-ED-ABCA-A14-E95-E816-BF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dmLpgwx)
(https://i.ibb.co/PQfT508/25-FB4-C68-6-E42-4-B2-F-B594-4-FCB9-CF36-AB7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PQfT508)
(https://i.ibb.co/Pw6gXMM/881-BD703-D882-44-ED-B01-F-C418-E1371-C81.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Pw6gXMM)
Has anyone replaced a seal in a small block bevelbox ?
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Surely that's a recall issue Huzo ? First one off the line often seemed to have this issue.
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It is much worse when this happens on a modern (less than 5 years old...) Guzzi...but I know the feeling! :laugh: :grin: :wink:
(https://i.ibb.co/0V3b4s9/IMG-E1513.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0V3b4s9)
This is from the manual petcock (fuel valve) This is my third one! :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh:
Hopefully the *NEW* coming from MG Cycle (again), will fix this.
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Wow! That was the title of a never released song by Elton John. You probably knew that didn't you Huzo?
Before I saw the pictures, I was going to suggest some Kaopectate.
Not everyone likes the taste, but it never bothered me......
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Wow! That was the title of a never released song by Elton John. You probably knew that didn't you Huzo?
Before I saw the pictures, I was going to suggest some Kaopectate.
Not everyone likes the taste, but it never bothered me......
Probably depends what it’s served up on mate.
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Wow! That was the title of a never released song by Elton John. You probably knew that didn't you Huzo?
Before I saw the pictures, I was going to suggest some Kaopectate.
Not everyone likes the taste, but it never bothered me......
I thought you were leaving. :evil: :wink:
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I thought you were leaving. :evil: :wink:
How could you expect me to walk away from Huzo's weeping rear end?
This either means he is in heat, or he needs some help.
What kind of friend would I be if I ignored either of those?
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How could you expect me to walk away from Huzo's weeping rear end?
It’s ok S.R.E. I wouldn’t point the finger at you of you did, I might be needing it myself.. :wink:
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There's always depends. :grin:
ZZ
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The reality is that there is a recall on the V85 regarding possible damage to a seal in the rear drive upon assembly. I have received an e mail indicating that I should come in and have it done but I don’t want their paws on it.
Also I have not had them do the first service and I expect them to throw their hands up in mock horror at the perceived repercussions of my inaction.
Now that WOULD get a conversation started..
I think I’ll do it myself.
The seal is a 55x40x7...can’t be too hard.. :rolleyes:
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There's always depends. :grin:
ZZ
...or he could wear a Mini-Pad in his underwear!! :laugh: :grin: :wink: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :huh:
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I hate when that happens....
Mark
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There's a pill for that.....
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Peter,
While I can understand your reasoning in the do it yourself angle, you have a warrenty which you gave paid for why not use it.
Now weve all seen the factory reaction on the big block cam followers if there was any doubt as too regular maintenance and the hoops to jump through that followed.
You have basically bought a first model, things will not be right on all of them, its how things go.
They have issued a recall, is it for the same seal or one of the others in the bevel box? so take it back youve paid for it and it will maybe help down the track if heaven forbid something else happens. If nothing else it allows you to point the finger at them if required later.
You have nothing to loose except the embuggerence factor and time.
Apart from that, go for a viton seal if you go it alone (buy 2, you can guess why)and have a very close look at the surface the seal runs on.
Cheers
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"While My Rear End Gently Weeps" - Title of your sex tape...
I just took mine in to Hamlin's for the few recall items. My rear was not weeping (title of MY sex tape), but they took off the wheel and put on some sort of seal cover. Fill with only 160 ml of oil. NOT the 160-180 per the book.
Due to the "inconvenience" of these few minor recall fixes, Guzzi is extending the warranty to 3 years. I'd take it in and get the recall fix on the record.
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The reality is that there is a recall on the V85 regarding possible damage to a seal in the rear drive upon assembly. I have received an e mail indicating that I should come in and have it done but I don’t want their paws on it.
Also I have not had them do the first service and I expect them to throw their hands up in mock horror at the perceived repercussions of my inaction.
Now that WOULD get a conversation started..
I think I’ll do it myself.
The seal is a 55x40x7...can’t be too hard.. :rolleyes:
If it's *that* seal, no problemo. If it's the inner seal.. :smiley: At least on the old small block rear drive. I've never even looked at the rear drive on the V85.
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It’s not the pinion seal that’s the subject of the recall.
I will most likely take the bevelbox in and get the recall done and if they will do the pinion seal on the house, then fine.
But if they flinch at that, then I’ll just pay for the work, that way they can all get rooted..
It needs to be mentioned that I did the first service myself and the bike is modified to some degree, so I have relinquished some of my rights.
But I don’t care..
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I have in fact replaced the large seal on a smallblock bevel box. Not an operation that presents unusual difficulty. The issue in this post, however, is not related, IMO.
The photos of Huzo's bike strongly suggest that the leak emanates not from the large or small bevel box seal, but rather from the interface of the rear drive and the swingarm (driveshaft enclosure). If the leak were from one of the bevel box seals the escaped lube would not travel forward to the spot shown in the photos. But leaking from the bevel box/swingarm joint, the lube would blow rearward as would be expected. The other possibility for depositing gear lube at this location on the rear drive would be a porous casting: However, I think the rear drive/swingarm joint is far more likely the source. Probably a new gasket and a very thin coat of gasket sealer would be the easy remedy.
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I replaced the two crown shaft seals on my Breva 750 bevel box .Two things learn't were when pressing in the large seal . Do not lube outer dia of seal or ally housing this gives you more control when pressing in to keep it square. Secondly do not push any more than flush with ally housing . There is no shoulder and if pressed in too far seal hits the large ball race with bad results and your weep persists. The inner lip can be greased to give initial lube .
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Start off by draining ALL the oil and refill with no more than 160 ml. Then see if it persists.
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The above comments are why I like you all! :bow:
I'm sure there is a ukulele cover of that song somewhere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ7Z0-B41cQ
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In an effort to see if the oil was coming down the swing arm, I snapped on a new set of rubber gloves and with a liberal dose of lubricant, rolled up my sleeve and told the nurse I was “ going in for a look”.
There appears to be no emission uphill of the joint face, so I’m going with a rooted pinion seal.
The bloke at the shop said they can do it almost straight away while I go next door and have a look at the Africa Twins.
‘Hope I don’t form an “attachment” with the good looking one... :wink: :kiss:
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21 replies and still no apology's to Mr. Harrison. :evil:
Paul B :boozing:
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21 replies and still no apology's to Mr. Harrison. :evil:
Paul B :boozing:
Who the hell is Mr Harrison ?
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Who the hell is Mr Harrison ?
Tv actor, Woody Harrison, you should get out more
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Tv actor, Woody Harrison, you should get out more
Don’t you mean Woody Harrelson...
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21 replies and still no apology's to Mr. Harrison. :evil:
Paul B :boozing:
They’d be apologies..
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21 replies and still no apology's to Mr. Harrison. :evil:
Paul B :boozing:
That'd be George Harrison.
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Don’t you mean Woody Harrelson...
It was humor. Hilarious indeed....
Apologies to George Harrelson :kiss:
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Not such a “gentle weep” as a “gush”..
(https://i.ibb.co/gT5TpWj/8-DDF5836-417-D-421-A-9-B32-B1-F2-E7-CB9073.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gT5TpWj)
(https://imgbb.com/)
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The above comments are why I like you all! :bow:
I'm sure there is a ukulele cover of that song somewhere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ7Z0-B41cQ
I'm pretty sure that's Elton John's boyfriend......
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I would try a tablet or two of Imodium.
JB
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Well I got the bevel box beck from the “mechanics” and everything seems pretty well done in the main. I certainly could not have done any differently.
I asked the guy to make sure the mechanics checked for any signs as to why the first seal let go so early and not just jam another one up it’s blurter and hope for the best.
When I got there, the report was that the leaking one came out “very, very, easily...”
The guy who did the job says it looked like the shagged one was leaking from the outer perimeter, sounds like BS to me but I wasn’t there, anyway he said the new one is a “much better fit”, so I’m cautiously optimistic.
(https://i.ibb.co/5Gc5P5C/FA3-CE9-AF-C71-D-4-AA0-960-C-3065-FB32-CBCB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5Gc5P5C)
https://youtu.be/sy2MphamhxQ
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Well, I hope the best for you-
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Well, I got the diarrhea too! After 160 miles of pouring rain on the Blue Ridge Pky. last week I was greeted with an oil splattered rear tire too. My first thought was just like the V7 it got rain in it and blew it out the vent. Well, it does have water in it but not enough to reach the level plug so I suspect a seal-like yours. I called the dealer and told him and said it will be a month to get it up to him and I would change to fresh oil and see what happens.
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There really isn’t much involved.
Maybe, do the seal yourself and if it works then fine.. If it buggers up as well, then whiz it into them then.
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any chance you wrote down the # stamped on the seal. I might just go to the local bearing supply store if they have one. I assume it's just pop out and in like the big one on the California and Ev serries. Good excuse to seal the spokes.
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Seal size
55 x 40 x 7
A dime a dozen at my good supplier, $11.00
But I don’t know if there are various grades of material. Roper says Viton and there is another material which name I cannot recall.
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Seal size
55 x 40 x 7
A dime a dozen at my good supplier, $11.00
But I don’t know if there are various grades of material. Roper says Viton and there is another material which name I cannot recall.
Viton is the go to in industrial applications and covers a wide range of applications. It would be my choice.
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Oil on the rim more likely the large 75x95x10 has gone leaking between bevel box and cush drive. Use Viton lip seals as per factory they handle high temps better .Not worth going cheap if you have the crown gear off to replace seal .
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for certain the big one facing the wheel. I assume it's a double lip?
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Mine was the pinion seal...
Done a week ago and 2,000 k since..Dry.
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Apologies to George Harrison, I'm sure............... ...
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Apologies to George Harrison, I'm sure............... ...
Would have been a better song...
Check this out..
Nice tank badges eh...?
(https://i.ibb.co/sQgSG00/42-D76745-CB40-423-F-AA59-4722-A326-B313.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sQgSG00)
Big $$$$$$...!
Still ok..
(https://i.ibb.co/GF1FTLZ/6500-CA02-03-EF-49-D6-BD10-0382-C8567-CA5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GF1FTLZ)
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The above comments are why I like you all! :bow:
I'm sure there is a ukulele cover of that song somewhere...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ7Z0-B41cQ
Jake's younger brother is a better musician. Hard to believe. Pretty cool. He's played for the Queen of England.
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Oil on the rim more likely the large 75x95x10 has gone leaking between bevel box and cush drive. Use Viton lip seals as per factory they handle high temps better .Not worth going cheap if you have the crown gear off to replace seal .
Does anybody know if this is the same setup as a V7? I understand you need a special tool and it's not a simple job like on the EV and California serries.
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Title of your sex tape?
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Title of your sex tape?
I had no idea how such an innocent title could take on such a skewed meaning... :rolleyes: