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Title: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: amamet on May 24, 2020, 10:11:18 AM

ive tried everything, one way then the other.  turn it over, try it this way, that way, everyway.  even leaving it the way it is and installing it, one "arm" sit flush with the pawl adjust and just pops over once moved.  even tried adjust pawl adjuster all the way in

here's what I was trying:
https://youtu.be/rT6VAm0jJiY
here's mine:
https://youtu.be/kcTcRjAclbI


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Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 24, 2020, 11:10:20 AM

I've found it necessary to (carefully) bent one tang of the spring so that it fits correctly.

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: amamet on May 24, 2020, 11:30:27 AM

That’s what I was thinking too but figured I shouldn’t need to bend it if it’s new but...
Also spring steel is not that easy to bend :)

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: moto-uno on May 24, 2020, 12:31:37 PM

  ^  Heat , very localized ! Acetylene is probably best .  Peter

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on May 24, 2020, 01:30:32 PM

I didn't use any heat. Spring in the vise, grabbed the tang with pliers and bent it.

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: malik on May 24, 2020, 04:59:21 PM

FWIW the local Guzzi mechanic has told me, when I was doing mine, that some springs just do not work. They have done more than a few, and it's not uncommon for them to try a couple of others to get one that works.

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: moto-uno on May 24, 2020, 05:03:33 PM

  ^^ Wow , You're one tough dude :) . I haven't had that much good luck with spring steels , maybe some are more malleable ?  Peter

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: Tom H on May 24, 2020, 05:28:04 PM

I believe I had the same problem as you with the new style spring. Before I broke something, I ended up taking it to my local shop and he played with it for a while and then started banding it until he was satisfied that it would work right.

At least you have good springs to see how the legs should look/fit.

Damn shame you can't just buy this spring and install it!!!!

Tom

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: amamet on May 24, 2020, 09:41:07 PM

Vise and pliers. All good :) Thx fellas

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: Scout63 on May 24, 2020, 09:50:29 PM

I thought it was just me.  Thanks for posting the inquiry I was too dumb to post.

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: 80CX100 on May 24, 2020, 10:34:01 PM

     Well I'll ask the obvious question, which way would you bend the tang to get the spring to lay flat?

      I was glad to see in the videos, that neither spring jumped into the dark corner under the work bench where my springs usually bounce to, lol  :laugh:

     Very glad to see this post, I'm sure I'll be doing this job at some point.

     Tia

      Kelly

Title: Re: cannot get the new 5 speed shift return spring to seat correctly!
Post by: Tobit on May 27, 2020, 03:59:38 PM

I ran into the same problem and didn't install it.  The bends are wrong and the wire gauge is thicker which has the spring rubbing against the rear transmission cover.  Also odd that it's wound opposite of the original.  Didn't look right or fit right so it's on the bench.

Tobit

'86 LeMans IV